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Guanciale

Sarah Jan 18, 2008 05:19 PM

Any to be found in Marin? Tried the Italian deli in Town Center in CM in the fall but nada.

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    wally Jan 18, 2008 05:24 PM

    I don''t know about Marin but most of the artisanal meat product people sell it. It is not always available but Fatted Calf, Boccalone, Cafe Rouge etc. have all sold it at one time or another.

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    1. re: wally
      Paul H Jan 18, 2008 05:38 PM

      Niman ranch also sells Guanciale.

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      orezscu Jan 18, 2008 07:50 PM

      I've seen it at A.G. Ferrari. Looks like there's one in Corte Madera:

      http://www.agferrari.com/index.php/st...

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      1. re: orezscu
        Sarah Jan 18, 2008 08:01 PM

        that's where I went, but it was a few months ago. maybe a shipment has come in!

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        alfairfax Jan 19, 2008 08:58 AM

        Sarah, I have ordered Niman guanciale from the butcher at Woodlands Market in Kentfield. It was there in a day or two. And even better, should be be in Santa Rosa, was the house-made guanciale from Traverso's; they do not always have it in stock, however, so perhaps checking in advance would be wise.

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        Traverso's Gourmet Foods
        2097 Stagecoach Rd,, Santa Rosa, CA

        Woodlands Market
        735 College Ave, Kentfield, CA 94904

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        1. re: alfairfax
          Sarah Jan 19, 2008 09:29 AM

          Thank you. I'll call Woodlands and also Paradise (closer).

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            Melanie Wong Jan 20, 2008 07:48 PM

            Haven't tried Niman's and Traverso's housemade head to head for a while, but I recall Niman's tasting flat and mostly salty, whereas Traverso's has the requisite acidic tang.

          2. augustiner Jan 19, 2008 05:30 PM

            just wondering if this was inspired by the NYT article about the use of guanciale in arrabiata sauces. i've also seen recipes which used guanciale instead of bacon or pancetta for carbonara. so...while we're talking about guanciale, what about san francisco? any reliable sources? i've never had it and i'm super curious.

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              david kaplan Jan 19, 2008 10:29 PM

              A.G. Ferrari says they'll special order it, though I've never tried. Lucca's Ravioli on Valencia had it, according to a friend, but the one time I asked for it there no one behind the counter even knew what it was. I've resorted to mail-ordering guanciale.

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                augustiner Jan 20, 2008 02:00 AM

                they didn't know what it was? that's not very encouraging. would you give any recs for mail-ordered guanciale?

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                  Paul H Jan 20, 2008 07:53 AM

                  Why mail order? It's easy to find around here. Just go to the Ferry Plaza Farmer's market. You can special order it from both Fatted Calf and Niman Ranch for pick up at the market.

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                  Atomica Jan 25, 2008 05:36 AM

                  Lucca Ravioli sells guanciale. There was a sign in the glass case when I was there a few weeks ago.

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                    david kaplan Jan 26, 2008 05:03 PM

                    Thrilled to report that I just bought Niman Ranch guanciale at Lucca's. They said they started stocking it a month ago and will try to have it regularly.

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                      farmersdaughter Jan 27, 2008 11:17 AM

                      Which Lucca, Lucca Ravioli in the Mission or Lucca Deli in the Marina?

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                        Atomica Jan 27, 2008 01:59 PM

                        Lucca Ravioli.

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                        Lucca Ravioli
                        1100 Valencia St, San Francisco, CA 94110

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                          david kaplan Jan 27, 2008 05:35 PM

                          Yes, Lucca Ravioli on Valencia in the Mission.

                3. re: augustiner
                  farmersdaughter Jan 20, 2008 09:02 AM

                  You can get excellent guanciale at the Fatted Calf at the Saturday Ferry Plaza Farmer's Market. They don't have it every week, but you can check their website (or sign up for their email newsletter) so that you can see what they are bringing to the market that week.

                  P.S. The Times article was about amatriciana sauce, not arrabiata (arrabiata means "angry" and is usually a tomato based sauce with chile flakes or chile peppers; amatriciana is a sauce which arguably originated in Amatrice, a town in the Lazio region of Italy, east of Rome, near the border of Lazio and Abruzzo).

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                    augustiner Jan 20, 2008 11:37 AM

                    oops! i had a feeling i had the wrong sauce, but was too lazy to double check. thanks for setting me straight.

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                    Sarah Jan 20, 2008 09:45 AM

                    I want to try it in carbonara instead of using pancetta. [in response to augustiner]

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                    nonnajudi Jan 23, 2008 07:53 PM

                    thanks Sarah - -i am new to Chowhound and didn't read far enough. will try Woodlands Market and deli in Town Center in CM. yes, stimulated by the article in the NYTimes. How suggestible we are.

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                    1. re: nonnajudi
                      Sarah Jan 24, 2008 05:25 PM

                      Between a lingering cold and the weather, haven't been inspired to do any actual shopping around. My dream carbonara will have to wait, but let me know how your search works out!

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                      alfairfax Jan 27, 2008 05:00 PM

                      Not in Marin, but I journeyed from Marin to Berkeley and stopped in at Cafe Rouge. There was CR's version of guanciale in the butcher case. Bought some, have not tried it yet, but glad to see they are doing it. Their house made sausages, pancetta, etc. have been good so I have high hopes.

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                      Cafe Rouge
                      1782 Fourth St, Berkeley, CA 94710

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                        DavidT Jan 28, 2008 06:48 PM

                        The AG Ferrari on California@Laurel (across from Laurel Village shopping center in SF) had a good bit of guanciale for sale as of this afternoon (Jan. 28). However, it is sold in hunks of about 1/2 pound. It is not sold in slices, as your would buy pancetta. It is in the case with their sausages and bacon.

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                          wally Jan 28, 2008 09:53 PM

                          I think that is the way that all guanciale is sold.

                        2. Atomica Feb 5, 2008 12:50 PM

                          At the Boccalone box pickup this Saturday (at Incanto, Feb. 9, 10-2), they'll be selling guanciale. $8 for 8 oz for members; $9 for non-members.

                          1. wolfe Feb 5, 2008 12:55 PM

                            Saw it in the Ox Bow Fatted Calf last week.

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                              Manfred80 Oct 31, 2010 04:28 PM

                              Does anybody know where to find guanciale close to Palo Alto?
                              I'm just arrived from Italy and I can not think to live without "carbonara", "amatriciana" and "gricia" for a very long time .......
                              I was looking at Andronico, Draeger's and also AG ferrari but I didn't find anything even similar.

                               
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                                david kaplan Oct 31, 2010 07:22 PM

                                AG Ferrari will special order guanciale -- at least their SF locations will. And if all else fails, guanciale is available in SF: Lucca Ravioli in the Mission has a modestly priced version, and Fatted Calf (Hayes Valley) and Boccalone (Ferry Building) have very expensive guanciale.

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                                Lucca Ravioli
                                1100 Valencia St, San Francisco, CA 94110

                                Boccalone Factory - Not Open to Public
                                1924 International Blvd, Oakland, CA 94606

                                Fatted Calf
                                644-C First Street, Napa, CA 94559

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                                  fishhead Oct 31, 2010 09:24 PM

                                  The PA AG Ferrari will get it for you if you ask them to.

                                  The San Carlos AG Ferrari sometimes has it in stock. I suggest calling them before making a trip. It's inexpensive compared to Boccalone. I can't remember exactly but probably less than $7/lb.

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                                  Boccalone Factory - Not Open to Public
                                  1924 International Blvd, Oakland, CA 94606

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