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Is Trattoria Zero Otto Nove the best pizza in NY?

offthebeatenpath1 Jan 16, 2008 10:39 AM

A friend just told me that he went to Trattoria Zero Otto Nove a couple of days ago and he know thinks this is the best pizza in NY. Even better than DiFara, Lucali's, Grimaldi's or Patsy's.

Has anyone been? I'm sure it's good since it's the owner of Roberto's, but the best?

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    allan evans RE: offthebeatenpath1 Jan 19, 2008 04:41 AM

    Could not help but admire their wood burning domed oven yesterday. As the master chef is from Salerno, there is no doubt he understands the essence of pizza. The pasta I ate was a triumph: fusilli with chick-peas, shards of crunchy pancetta, tossed with grated pecorino, bread crumbs and parsley. As good as pizza gets, it cannot compare to such primi piatti.

    1. JohnAM RE: offthebeatenpath1 Jan 22, 2008 02:41 PM

      The best pizza in New York? That's a stretch....The ingredients are the finest but the crust has a lot to be desired. It's limp and tasteless and a good crust is what makes a great pizza. Have a pie from Mario's, across the street, and then you'll have the best pizza in the Bronx for sure and maybe in NY.

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        obob96 RE: JohnAM Jan 23, 2008 06:28 AM

        Had an excellent non-pizza lunch at 089 (escarole and pickled eggplant salad, mixed seafood grill) at fair prices. Interesting, fresh menu (next time: the escarole calzone) and what looked like very good pizze. I'd not be surprised if the crust, in contemporary Neapolitan and Salernitana fashion, were indeed more pliable than Mario's, which makes an equally emblematic New York/Neapolitan pizza, with a more "traditonal" crust. Either way...

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          Striver RE: obob96 Mar 11, 2008 05:32 AM

          Roberto's 089 crust is thin but flexible (great for folding, my preferred method of eating pizza) with a nice char - and doesn't lack for flavor. Ingredients are outstanding; the pie with smoked mozzarella, butternut squash, and pancetta is unusual and delicious. Much prefer it to Mario's (in fact, on a good day I prefer Full Moon's pizza to Mario's).

          FWIW, re Bruno187's post below, Roberto has been in regular attendance at the new place, striped pants and all, definitely acting like the owner.

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        Bruno187 RE: offthebeatenpath1 Feb 24, 2008 05:20 PM

        As far as I know, Roberto doesn't own the place but his brother Tony does. Maybe I'm splitting hairs but not many people would know that the brother Tony actually opened Roberto's originally, then the brothers had a falling out and Roberto bought Tony out. The rest is history as they say.

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          vvvindaloo RE: Bruno187 Apr 9, 2008 07:34 PM

          Roberto has fallen out with both of his brothers. Both restaurants are now under his supervision, though.

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          JeffV RE: offthebeatenpath1 Mar 16, 2008 09:16 AM

          I maintain a list of my favorite pizzerias and I would classify this as a second tier place. It's not up there with Patsy's or Luzzo's or Una Pizza Napoletana or Johnny's (mt vernon), but it's pretty good. My guests didn't like it though. They are a tough crowd.

          1. vvvindaloo RE: offthebeatenpath1 Apr 9, 2008 07:33 PM

            Not even close. I prefer the pizza at DiFara, Luzzo, Una Pizza Napoletana (though I'll never set foot in there again), Pizza Pala, and maybe even John's and Lombardi's. I had high hopes for the pizza at Zero Otto Nove, and it was good, but nothing to write home about.

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              budcar RE: offthebeatenpath1 Apr 11, 2008 01:23 PM

              We've gone to Zero twice for lunch recently. I would have ordered the full size pie, but, unfortunately, only the solo size was available, so two of us shared. The first time, the crust was superb. Light, charred and delicious. On it was a mixture of greens and I think, feta cheese which blended perfectly with the crust and made for a wonderful pizza. The second time, we ordered the margarita ( fresh mozzerella and tomato sauce) which was not as pleasant as the first. The crust was misshapen (not round) so that may have been the reason.

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