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lakeshow318 Jan 15, 2008 08:24 PM

Where can I get the best non-xiao lum bao dumplings? I mean Shandong/Northern Chinese dumplings. Thick skin, juicy filling... mmm
Any non-Chinese recommendations? like Korean or other Asian?

  1. J.L. Jan 16, 2008 01:10 AM

    Believe it or not, my favorite "non-XLB" bao are the pork+veggie bao purchased from the bakery at 99 Ranch Market in San Gabriel (4 big bao in each box). Tasty as heck, and they reheat really nicely.

    p.s. I'm assuming that by using the word "dumplings", you are actually referring to "bao zhe", and not "jiao zhe".

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      Diana Jan 16, 2008 06:28 AM

      I like the boa form my 99Ranch in Sherman Oaks. Same ones, I guess.

    2. ipsedixit Jan 16, 2008 07:27 AM

      Luscious Dumplings.

      By the way, a point of semantics. Xiao long boa are not dumplings. Dumplings are dumplings. Xiao long boa are, well, xiao long boa.

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      1. re: ipsedixit
        PeterL Jan 16, 2008 07:32 AM

        Semantics, semantics. The way I see it, XLB's are not bao either, despite their names. But shouldn't dumplings be a generic term referring to meat and/or veggies wrapped in dough?

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          ipsedixit Jan 16, 2008 07:39 AM

          "But shouldn't dumplings be a generic term referring to meat and/or veggies wrapped in dough?"

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          No.

          Because there are things like "jiou tsai hu-tzse" or what might be described best as Chinese empanadas -- and they are definitely not considered dumplings by any stretch of the imagination. Neither are won tons for that matter.

          I mean, after all, you wouldn't lump tacos, burritos, gorditas, taquitos as basically all variations of the burrito right? E.g., meat and/or veggies with tortilla wrapping.

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            lakeshow318 Jan 16, 2008 05:49 PM

            jiou tsai hu-tze are what i would call dumplings too. since they're made with the same pei as the smaller dumplings. at least that's how my mom makes them...

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              ipsedixit Jan 16, 2008 07:34 PM

              "jiou tsai hu-tsze" are not "jiou-tsze" (or dumplings).

          2. re: PeterL
            raytamsgv Jan 16, 2008 03:27 PM

            Dumplings is too generic of a term because the Chinese are have specific names for them. The problem comes from the fact that "dumpling" is a generic English term. Another analogy from the Chinese point of view would be bread. We have baugette, kaiser rolls, dinner rolls, croissant, 7-grain, French, rye, sliced, etc. In Chinese, they are simply called "mian bao". There is no differentiation at all, but to Americans, the breads are completely different from one another.

            1. re: PeterL
              J.L. Jan 16, 2008 04:58 PM

              uh, except for the fact that the "B" in XLB stands for Bao...

              1. re: PeterL
                Mr Taster Jan 16, 2008 08:01 PM

                Just a warning-- we've had the dumplings-semantics argument before!

                http://www.chowhound.com/topics/44213...

                Mr Taster

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              broncosaurus Jan 16, 2008 07:45 AM

              Try the steamed or pan-fried dumplings at Szechwan restaurant, on Washington Blvd a couple of blocks west of Lincoln (next to the Chabad center). The rest of the menu is sort of old school Chineseish, but tasty nonetheless. It's were I go if I don't feel like driving out to SGV.

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                crystaw Jan 16, 2008 08:55 AM

                Mandarin Noodle Deli on Las Tunas in Temple City makes good, pan friend dumplings. Their menu consists of Northern Chinese fare and is full of great things!

                1. raytamsgv Jan 16, 2008 03:31 PM

                  I'd recommend Dumpling House in Temple City.
                  Here are some reviews of Northern-style restaurants: http://www.geocities.com/raytamsgv/ch...

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                    lakeshow318 Jan 16, 2008 05:50 PM

                    sweeet! thanks! i'll be trying those. all of them.

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                      wilafur Jan 17, 2008 08:37 AM

                      big fan of dumpling house overe here. their jiao zhi's (dumplings) and cho yiou bings (green onion pancakes) are fantastic.

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                        crystaw Jan 18, 2008 08:22 AM

                        Woo-if you go to Dumpling House be sure to try their scallion pancakes. I personally think they have the best ones!

                      2. notmartha Jan 16, 2008 07:57 PM

                        I agree Luscious Dumplings has the best all-around. Dumplings and noodles are the 2 major food groups on their menu.

                        I like Earthen at Hacienda Heights for the fish dumplings and potstickers (and onion pancakes), and I like 101 Noodle express for the pan fried pumpkin, pork and shrimp dumplings.

                        1. mpken Jan 16, 2008 08:01 PM

                          101 Noodle Express on Valley has some pretty good dumplings. You can have that crazy big and good Beef Roll while you're at it. I've got to thank Jerome for pimping that place, otherwise we would have never stopped there while on our way to Golden Deli/Vietnam House.

                          1. Das Ubergeek Jan 18, 2008 12:20 PM

                            OK, I might get flamed for this, but the best dumplings in the LA area are not jiaozi, baozi, mantou or any of that -- they're mandu. And they come from Anna's Mandoo on Garden Grove Boulevard, where you can get them steamed, fried or "king mandu", which are made with buckwheat flour. This makes them a little bit bitter, and they're shaped like Chinese bao, but so, so much better.

                            The owners' English, however, is not very good at all, so you should just point and shoot -- there is nothing bad to eat here. If you don't speak Korean you may need to mime for sitting (or just sit) and mime for what you want, but the service is gracious... and a little "jjalmogossumnida" at the end will carry you a long way. :)

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                              ipsedixit Jan 18, 2008 12:39 PM

                              This is good to know. I've been looking for a good mandu joint, but haven't found any.

                              All this time, I've been looking around K-town ... silly me.

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                                Das Ubergeek Jan 18, 2008 12:49 PM

                                There's a good mandu-ería on 8th and... Western? Wherever the BCD tofu that's not on Wilshire is, the mandu place adjacent isn't bad -- but it's not Anna's Mandu.

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                                  Servorg Jan 18, 2008 12:55 PM

                                  One previous mandu thread: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/380214

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                                Wonginator Jan 18, 2008 04:02 PM

                                You might be in the minority prefering mandu.

                                I tried it a couple of years ago for the first time at Hwang Hae Do in Garden Grove, which was written up both in the LA Times and OC Weekly with positive reviews. When I tried it, I thought it was OK, but nothing great.

                                My favorites are still the multitude of dumplings in Chinese cuisine.

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                                slacker Jan 18, 2008 01:55 PM

                                Dumpling 10053 in El Monte. Lots of variety and excellent, plus lots of other food too.

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                                  chowmominLA Jan 18, 2008 02:21 PM

                                  I third the Lucious Dumpling rec. Ate there yesterday for the third time. 10 dumplings for $6, and lucious indeed. Or you can get five dumplings plus a bowl of noodle/meat/veggie soup for $6.

                                  I think I've tried all the dumplings and they're all good. The "pork with soup" dumplings or something to that effect are equivalent to the juicy pork dumplings at Din Tai Fung but are bigger and thicker skin, and slightly less expensive. Either of the fried dumplings are very delicious.

                                  It's in a strip mall on Las Tunas and Mission in (I think) San Gabriel. It's a bit north of Mission 261. Extremely small no-frills place; you may have to wait.

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