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Cherry Brandy - Cointreau?? Marnier?

My brother-in-law swears he once had a cherry brandy made by Cointreau...it was at a wedding in England. I've asked around for it, but all anybody knows about is their orange-flavored liqueur.

Has anybody here had or heard of or knows where to find Cointreau cherry brandy?
I ran across Cherry Marnier - is that substantially better than de Kupyers cherry brandy?
Thank you.

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  1. I'm not sure they make cherry Cointreau anymore.

    Cherry Marnier is very good. Different than De Kuyper. I think that the Marnier is better but it has been awhile since I tasted the De Kuyper..

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    1. re: JMF

      Yes, VERY DIFFERENT than DeKuyper . . .

      From the Grand Marnier website, "Grand Marnier Cherry is an elegant blend of our world-renowned Grand Marnier made with our exceptionally smooth Cognac, wild tropical Haitian oranges and tantalizing European Griotte cherries."

      See http://www.grand-marnier.com/index.ph... for more; they also, apparently, make a Raspberry version which I have never seen . . .

      1. re: zin1953

        The raspberry-peach is terrible. Very artificial tasting.

        1. re: JMF

          And apparently I won't be bothering to look for it, either . . . ;^)

    2. Yes:

      During 70's and 80's we had the opportunity to enjoy Cherry Brandy by Cointreau in US in the state of IOWA. We had a stock of them and used for years. Then I could not find any Cointreau Brandy, which I have been desperately looking for, till recently found out only the Orange flavored liqueur is sold all over USA.

      I am traveling in Europe in 2014 and desperately looking for Cherry Brandy by Cointreau. No luck in Belgium. Since it was made in France, I will be looking for it when I travel to Paris.

      Bushan

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      1. re: ashoka8350

        Hello Bushan -

        Any luck finding the Cointreau Cherry Brandy?? I would love to secure a bottle for a gift.

        Thank you
        Jo

        1. re: jochaima

          Cointreau cherry liqueur/brandy, hasn't been made in decades as far as I can determine.

          1. re: JMF

            Yes - I remember now from a while back - Patrick, a wonderful French wine seller who ran Tinamou Wine Co in Sonoma CA (sadly since closed)looked into the matter and reported back that Cointreau was worried that the cherry version was diluting its brand identity, and so it did not stay in production thereafter.

      2. Your brother-in-law is not crazy. Here is the proof . . .

        That said, there is NO reference to Cointreau's Cherry Brandy on *either* the company's French or US websites.

         
        1. Thank you Zin! I won't pass along photo evidence of sanity to him just yet....
          Cointreau has definitely, and unfortunately, stopped producing their cherry brandy - (I think before 1990?)
          Cherry Marnier is great - but b-in-law finds it to taste as much of almond and spice as of cherry. The Cherry Cointreau was I think more definitively cherry. The first time he tried Cherry Marnier he was hoping for it be just like Cherry Cointreau, and he was disappointed. The second time, he had the Marnier in its
          own terms and really liked it.
          There is this other cherry brandy I just ran across, but I don't know anything beyond the listing:
          http://www.masterofmalt.com/liqueurs/...

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          1. re: jochaima

            There are DOZENS of Cherry Brandies produced in the world, along with many more cherry FLAVORED brandies (such as the DeKuyper you referenced above) and many cherry liqueurs.

            True cherry brandy is usually colorless and is distilled from the actual cherries themselves. Known as Kirsch, Kischwasser, or Cerise, these famous eaux-de-vie are dry, and filled with the essence of cherry. Typically very aromatic, these historically come from Alsace (France), Germany, Switzerland, Hungary, and parts of the former Yugoslavia. These are sipped, often chilled, as a digestif, or served to accompany cheese and some desserts, or coffee. Some producers make it here in the United States as well. Etter of Switzerland is my favorite.

            Then there are cherry FLAVORED brandies, like the DeKuyper. These are grape brandies -- often cheap, mass produced brandies, especially domestically (U.S.-made) -- with cherries and/or natural- and/or artificial flavors added. Read the label carefully. Few of these (again, especially domestically) are very good.

            Finally there are the cherry liqueurs. These often have a brandy (or in the case of Cherry Marnier, a Cognac) base, but will have some noticeable sweetness to them as well. These are served at room temperature, alone of with coffee, and play a role in many cocktail recipes.

            1. re: zin1953

              Would Cherry Heering be anything like the Grand Marnier Cherry?

              1. re: BeefeaterRocks

                No.

                Grand Marnier cherry is very different with a cherry, cherry kernel (almond), orange, and spice flavor.

                Cherry Herring is a different type of cherry with a blend of spices, but has a darker, richer, more complex flavor range, with a hint of dark chocolate, vanilla, and tannins from around five years of barrel aging.

                1. re: JMF

                  Thank you, sounds like the Cherry Heering is worth a revisit. I was just wondering if trying both would be redundant.

                  1. re: JMF

                    I love Cherry Heering. Gone through a few bottles over the last few years after seeking it out about forty years after first tasting it.

                    This was a very interesting article from a few years ago...

                    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-sa...

                2. re: zin1953

                  I have been in touch with Masters of Malt, who make the Professor Cornelius Ampleforth cherry brandy. They describe it as a "cherry brandy" (meaning a cherry liqueur in Zin's outline above) as opposed to a "cherry flavored brandy." Thanks to Zin, I managed to appear informed on the matter! The DeKuypers XO - pricier in UK than the PCA - is a (top-line) "cherry flavored" brandy, and uses a different process than the PCA. As I am in UK, I plan to spring for the PCA, have it tasted by Mr. "I Had Cherry Cointreau, It Really Existed"; and report his finds (how compares to Cherry Cointreau and Cherry Marnier) here in due course. Cheers all!

                  1. re: jochaima

                    Historical note: the Cointreau brand began as a cherry liqueur: "their first success was with the cherry liqueur guignolet, but they found success when they blended sweet and bitter orange peels...."
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL-Vr...

                    http://www.alcademics.com/2011/10/a-v...

                    "C'est ironique, n'est-ce pas?"

                    PS I noticed Zin gives Berkeley CA as home - I hope
                    you and yours, and your bottled goods, are safe after the earthquake.

                    1. re: jochaima

                      Thanks for your concern, but Berkeley is (approx.) 50 miles/80 km from downtown Napa. We felt a long wave-like motion, but suffered nothing worse than a few pictures on the wall that needed straightening.

                      That said, I was in Santa Cruz for the 1989 earthquake and my house got trashed . . . my heart goes out to those in Napa -- feeling a strong sense of déja vu -- but all of my friends there are fine -- broken bottles, lost barrels, and damaged houses/wineries can be replaced/repaired. Thankfully no one lost their life, and though it doesn't soothe the frayed nerves, that, too, shall pass . . .

                      1. re: zin1953

                        zin1953, it is good to hear you are alright. Please do not get mad if I am wrong, but I am *guessing* you know the Kesslers and I seem to recall they lived not too far away from the Silverado Trail in Napa. Do you know if they are ok or suffered any damage?

                        1. re: Fowler

                          Lou & BL are fine. They lost power for the better part of a day, and Lou said that he & BL "hung on for dear life," but in the end only suffered from rattled nerves, as did everyone in Napa.

                          Very little of their wine broke! Not even the bottle of Blue Nun Eiswein I once gave Lou as a joke . . .

                          Lou *did* say that a bottle fell from his rack right only an older bottle of Bordeaux he has standing on the floor, but "Fortunately it snapped the neck clean off, and we had it with corn flakes."

                          1. re: zin1953

                            I appreciate the update, Zin. Thank goodness the bottle of Blue Nun Eiswein did not break. It would be a shame if a trophy like that were broken.

                            I hope BL's cassoulet pot remained unscathed.

                            1. re: Fowler

                              You know how hard it is to give Lou a bottle of wine?????

                              (Cassoulet is still on the agenda, safe and sound.)

                  2. re: zin1953

                    Hi Zin -

                    Glad to hear that found Etter to your liking.

                    Just a clarification, but Kirchwasser made here, or in the Alps uses no sugar. Kirsch or kirschwasser, is an unsweetened eaux de vie distilled from sweet, or more commonly sour cherries, apricots, pears, etc. It is also clear.

                    Cherry or other fruit brandy, is sweetened, and usually dark. You can't use kirsch and cherry liqueur interchangeably, since one is sweet and the other isn't.

                    Kirschwasser is also more expensive to produce, as it requires 10-15 kilos of fruit to yield one 750 ml bottle.A few drops added to any fruit dish or dessert go a long way.

                    Etter link, with an English option:
                    http://www.etter-distillerie.ch/index...

                    1. re: SWISSAIRE

                      Yes, that's the difference between the brandy made from cherries (eau-de-vie), and a grape brandy/liqueur that is flavored with/by the cherries. ;^)

                      1. re: zin1953

                        Hi Zin-

                        If you want a local recipe for a good Cherry Kirschwasser, I have one.

                        Send me a PM.

                        1. re: SWISSAIRE

                          >>>Send me a PM.<<<

                          SWISSAIRE, Chowhound now has PM functionality? I did not know that. How does one PM another poster on Chowhound?

                          Thanks.

                3. For a really rich tasting, decadent cherry brandy, you may wish to try the Kirsch brand; be aware that the lower-priced ones generally do not taste all that great. A higher quality one, however, will taste divine; some brands that are recommended often are St. George's and Bertrand.

                  I did see a site online that sold Cointreau brandy cherry liqueur; is this what you were looking for perhaps? - http://www2.woolworthsonline.com.au/s...