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IanW Jan 10, 2008 08:28 PM

I noticed that Koi Garden was open in Uferts Center in Dublin today. I was dinning at Old Town Singapore Cafe and didn't get a chance to eat there. Has anyone been yet? It was filled but not insane like Koi Palace.

  1. choctastic Jan 11, 2008 06:14 PM

    My friend was just there and he said the food was excellent.

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      dty Jan 13, 2008 11:07 AM

      4 of us went there last night (reservation recommended) for the $72 peking duck set menu:
      -8 XLBs: decent version by a Cantonese resto; the skin didn't break when handled by the chopsticks; plenty of soup inside
      -Peking Duck cooked 3 ways:
      1. Duck skin with buns (not wrappers) served with scallions and hoi-sin sauce: average; I was intrigued by the buns, which are not the usual big doughy buns, but smaller ones that are formed by strands of doughs (should've taken pictures)
      2. Sauteed strips of duck meat with mung bean noodles and enoki? Again, average, but the whole table lapped it up
      3. Tofu and mustard green soup with the carcass: very good for cutting down on the grease after the skins and the stir-fry
      -Steamed crab with chopped garlic: meaty crab; would've preferred shrimp for easier eating
      -Steamed cat fish: average; I thought the flesh was a bit muddy-tasting; the rest of the table was pleased with it.
      -Wedges of oranges to round out the meal
      Steamed rice served in a baby-sized bowl was $2. Other than that, we all agree it was a bargain price for that much decent food. All the dishes came out of the kitchen quickly. Service was a bit disorganized; we saw more managers and supervisors than waiters. We'll have to come back here to sample more individual dishes.

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      1. re: dty
        Xiao Yang Jan 13, 2008 11:45 AM

        That sounds like the same set I had once at the Daly City location. I wonder if the whole menu is the same.

        1. re: dty
          tanspace Jan 15, 2008 03:32 PM

          The bun is the "Yin Si Juan", or Silver Strands Roll, a popular Shandong style bun. So even though they're not using the traditonal mushu style thin crepes, at least the YinSiJuan gets it closer to the real deal.

          1. re: tanspace
            K K Jan 15, 2008 06:12 PM

            What's the deep fried version of Yin Si Juan or Ngun See Guen in Cantonese, called? It used to go by another name in Hong Kong.

        2. K K Jan 13, 2008 11:52 AM

          Anyone know what is the Chinese name of Koi Garden?

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          1. re: K K
            Xiao Yang Jan 13, 2008 12:47 PM

            "Li yu men yu shan cha liao" (鯉魚門御膳茶寮), something like Koi Palace Imperial Tea House?

            Here's a pic:

            http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i...

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            kc72 Jan 13, 2008 12:25 PM

            How big is this restaurant? How do you get to this new Uferts Center?

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            1. re: kc72
              wolfe Jan 13, 2008 12:28 PM

              Search works better if you use Ulferts. Click on address for directions.
              http://www.ulferts.com/dublin/index.php

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                kc72 Jan 13, 2008 12:36 PM

                Thanks.. copied 'Uferts' from the original post.

            2. rworange Jan 13, 2008 10:54 PM

              Link

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              Just Koi
              4288 Dublin Blvd, Dublin, CA 94568

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                Cheesy Oysters Jan 14, 2008 09:21 AM

                I'd love to hear about the dim sum. I'm hoping it is as good as the original location.

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                  chow_eb Jan 14, 2008 02:56 PM

                  We went there for lunch today. Shui mai, char siu bow, woo gok (taro), sticky rice in lotus leaf, pot stickers. Everything was fresh and hot. Excellent.

                2. PeterL Jan 15, 2008 03:42 PM

                  We went there when they first opened a month or so back. It was good, nothing sensational though. They serve simple food, nothing like what you can get at Koi Palace.

                  What about the upstairs full restaurant at the same center? Are they open yet?

                  1. PeterL Jan 15, 2008 03:43 PM

                    OH it is the upstairs place, not the cafe downstairs.

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                      Cheesy Oysters Jan 18, 2008 12:43 PM

                      Tried to go to lunch today with two friends. One was running late so we missed the noon window. The wait was 40 minutes at 12:01 so sadly we went to the place by the mall. Will try again but will arrive around 11:30.

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                        InnaMa Mar 1, 2008 02:37 AM

                        We shared one order of each crab, mongolian beef, fried rice, walnut prawns, half duck and a plate of veggies among 6 people today - food was not bad, average to good, price tag was amazing - $395. 5 of us had one drink each. Receipt was in chinese which none of us could understand. I asked what single plate costed us $150 - our waiter was looking at the receipt and thinking for a long time before coming up with the explanation that the crab we shared had almost 6 lb of white meat which i can find unbelievable.
                        none of us wanted to argue, we paid and left - i don't think any are coming back.

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                        1. re: InnaMa
                          PeterL Mar 1, 2008 08:42 AM

                          Depends on what kind of crab, it can be amazingly expensive. When ordering seasonally priced dishes, it's best to ask what the price per pound is and have a look at the actual crab (or fish) and how much it weighs before ordering.

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                            Rick_L Mar 17, 2008 09:09 PM

                            A crab commonly served in a restaurant with a body (not including the legs) of 6 inches across probably weights 2-lbs or a little less. Probably cost you $12 to $18 a pound depending on the season and the restaurant.

                            A 6-lbs crab is very rare and can be the reason why you're charged so much. Like they say, if you believe this I have a bridge in New York City you may want to buy.

                            1. re: Rick_L
                              Xiao Yang Mar 17, 2008 10:13 PM

                              I haven't been to the Ulferts Center but at Koi Palace in Daly City they have crabs of all sizes, including some in the tank (King Crabs, etc.) that could easily yield more than 6 lbs of meat. There may have been some confusion or miscommunication about the exact net weight served; in fact, I would consider $135 a real bargain price for 6 lbs. from the same creature prepared by a restaurant of Koi's stature. That's about $22.50 per pound, and I would expect to pay that much or more for a pound of fresh, cleaned crab meat at an upscale supermarket, never mind a restaurant.

                              1. re: Xiao Yang
                                Eugene Park Mar 18, 2008 02:13 PM

                                I'm not affiliated with Koi Palace in any way, but I have been spending a fair amount of coin in the past couple of years on various banquets/celebratory meals at KP and other high-end restos of its ilk (e.g. Zen Peninsula). The price per pound for crab is for the entire crab (i.e. including the shell), not just the meat.

                                InnaMa didn't state whether the crab they chose was the ubiquitous Dungeness crab, or if it was a more expensive type of crab like Alaskan king crab. A 6 lb. Dungeness would probably be close to a world record. A 6 lb. king crab would be middle of the road in terms of weight. Alaskan king crab is typically more expensive than Dungeness, so a $150 price tag for a king crab preparation wouldn't be out of line at all.

                                I'm assuming that your server(s) at KP brought the crab out to you for inspection before it was cooked? If so, which type of crab was it?

                                1. re: Eugene Park
                                  yimster Mar 18, 2008 02:30 PM

                                  I agree in that I have never seen a dungeness crab at the six pound size, but in Vancouver I was part of the family dinner where we shared a live King Crab at the eight pound range. I did not pay for that dinner but I do remember the waiter (not sure if he was just a waiter but most likely a head waiter tell my cousin that the crab was over two hundred CD). It almost time for live king crab again. Wonder what this years price will be.

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                                    Jimmy Chan Mar 21, 2008 09:00 PM

                                    The Alaska King crab season had begun one month ago. I had the first 15 pounder at Zen Peninsula for $18 per pound on February 23rd. We went back three weeks in a roll for a little King crab fiesta, they are getting smaller and smaller (down to 10 pounds). According to manager Andy, the season will be over soon and the price will go back to 30ish per pound. Sounds like you guys are missing out!

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