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Food Network "Down Home with the Neely's"

dave_c Jan 10, 2008 08:36 AM

Is this Food TV trying to dispel the complaint about the network not having people of color?

I like bbq so it looks interesting.
I hope it's more cooking than a "Hogan knows best" type reality TV show.

  1. monavano Sep 24, 2010 08:33 AM

    Oh Dear Gawd!
    I watched the first minute of the Neely's to see what they'd be cooking. Lunchbox. OK.
    A salmon blt and an ice cream sandwich? In a lunchbox?
    From the website:
    " There won't be any trading in this 'Lunch Box' delight!"
    No shit.

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    1. re: monavano
      LindaWhit Sep 24, 2010 01:32 PM

      " There won't be any trading in this 'Lunch Box' delight!"
      No shit.
      ~~~~~~~~~
      :-D Granted lunchboxes are not the old aluminum boxes with Scooby Doo on them, but to keep the ice cream sandwich frozen, wouldn't the salmon BLT have to be frozen also? Yeah, I SO wouldn't be trying that combo.

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      ncreport Sep 22, 2010 09:25 AM

      New to board and I just ran across this and I am laughing so hard I may fall out of my chair! I thought I was the only person that these people drove to drink. I too think the Neely's are strange and a little childish, Ina slurps and drives me crazy, Rachel does a hand waving thing that makes me want to scream and when she says "sammies" I have to turn her off. Let's not forget Sandra's "and can I just tell you", on an average of 4 times a show!

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      1. re: ncreport
        coney with everything Nov 12, 2010 04:59 AM

        Welcome, ncreport!

        If you like FN snark, check out foodnetworkhumor.com

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          PHATTY GIRL Nov 13, 2010 07:10 AM

          Hey whats that about

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          PHATTY GIRL Nov 13, 2010 07:06 AM

          New to the board to ncreport i like them all but, Rachel with her" Yum O" is funny and Paula "Yal" is funny but they are not annoying to me on the other hand meaning no harm but is the truth Gena is annoying i thought it was just me, but after i read everyone elses review they hit it on the head she is to loud and act like she is still in high school on the cheering squard her husband is so much moer polish then she is.Pat need to tell her to shut up and take a chill pill they are not on the field they are on tv on a cooking show, but never the less i hope they make it for Pats sake.

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          James Cristinian Jul 4, 2010 04:45 PM

          I've got a crush on Gina, please don't tell my wife.

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          1. re: James Cristinian
            Liveitloud Jul 4, 2010 08:21 PM

            She might end the spice fairy's career. :)

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            mikenadken May 3, 2010 03:01 PM

            Okay..I am glad I found a place to comment on this show. I think the food they make on the show looks great. They have easy recipies, for normal America. As for the Pat and Gina, not so great. I realize that all the host have their own style, they however need to stop with all this extra "chatter" they do between each other. It's a day time TV show, which children will watch. Opening up doorways for young children to ask Questions. : example
            "Mommy what does rubbing your feet tonight have to do with cooking?"
            This is the Food Network ...Right. Why not cook and less getting it on...PLEASE

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            1. re: mikenadken
              speyerer May 3, 2010 10:00 PM

              I agree. The next step is up to the Food Network.

              1. re: speyerer
                Withnail42 May 4, 2010 03:58 AM

                If you leave it to FN it'll only get much worse.

              2. re: mikenadken
                alkapal May 19, 2010 05:18 AM

                while i haven't seen it lately, they have gotten much better since the show began.

                i like pat and gina. they have a nice story, too. i don't fix the type of food they typically make, but i'm not here to put it down.

                1. re: alkapal
                  speyerer May 19, 2010 08:43 AM

                  If you haven't seen it lately, how do you know "they have gotten much better since the show began"?
                  The comments are not about the quality of the food they prepare or their ability to cook but the problem is their tawdry presentation.

                  1. re: speyerer
                    alkapal May 19, 2010 02:01 PM

                    speyerer, i can say this because the show has been on for a couple of years.....
                    see my posts of may 1, 2008, dec 1, 2008 and this from jan 7, 2010: "in watching in passing, i thought the production values have improved since the show's inception -- and the sexuendo reduced."

                    1. re: alkapal
                      speyerer May 19, 2010 08:15 PM

                      Speyerer, I can say this because the show has been on for a couple of years.
                      See my posts of May 1, 2008, Dec. 1, 2008 and this from Jan. 7, 2010: "In watching in passing, I thought the production values have improved since the show's inception -- and the 'sexuendo' reduced."
                      Thanks Al, for the explanation.

                      1. re: speyerer
                        Liveitloud Jul 1, 2010 10:24 AM

                        Two words: Barbecue Spaghetti.

              3. keithlb1 Jan 10, 2010 08:52 AM

                I think the Food Network has gone down the road of cable news networks, all fluff and no substance, trying to appeal to everyone, but really sacrificing their credibility as a true "Food Network." The pendulum has swung from the 'pro chef" to the novice food actor with a bubbly personality, that can sale cheap kitchen knives. I don't watch the network if I want to learn about cooking anymore. PBS is a much better authority than the Food Network.

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                  hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 10, 2010 05:44 PM

                  I think the odd thing about discussions about Food TV Hosts is that the same rules don't apply to liking or disliking a host.

                  For example there are several top pro chefs that are selling kitchen equipment like Batali, Puck and English. All three are successful and credible chefs, have been TV hosts and have a line of products. Among the chowhound community I'd say all 3 are well respected. But then you have Emeril Lagassi who is also a credible/successful chef, TV Host and has a line of products but doesn't get the same respect, so why is that? Just because he said bam and it was considered hokey?

                  Then look at Alton Brown, in his early 30ths he went to culinary school with the sole intention of becoming a food TV personality. While his show is serious about food it also contains very hokey skits mixed in with the cooking. Yet he's highly respected among chowhounds. So just being hokey isn't the cause and he isn't a pro chef.

                  Anthony Bourdain is much more successful as an author/TV host then he ever was as a chef. Without writing Kitchen Confidential Bourdain is just another cook in NY. So we really like him for his personality much more then his prowess in the kitchen. Yet he's well respected on chowhound.

                  Guy Fieri has had much more success in the restaurant business than Anthony Bourdain, in fact the same can be said for the Nealy's. However Guy Fieri isn't taken very seriously by chowhounds. Is that solely because of his personality?

                  Based on my observations its not simply about how good of a cook a host is that makes them likable and/or credible. It really comes down more to our perception of them then their actual credentials. I think too many people are getting negatively distracted by something as superficial as a tagline like Bam! or sunglasses.

                  1. re: hudsonvalleyfoodblog
                    monavano Jan 11, 2010 05:54 AM

                    Very refreshing post! I'm so glad that I'm not alone in thinking that Brown is painfully hokey. So much so, that I can't watch him. The parent/child, teacher/student approach is insulting, and his cadence leaves me ill at ease.
                    What I think Brown does get right is recipes, in a similar fashion to America's Test Kitchen. There's a lot of thought (and science)behind his recipes. None are "on a whim" or "just because" or "what the heck, throw it in". So, he gets a lot of positive ratings.
                    But, passion? No. He's very sterile which makes him, for me, not enjoyable to watch. He's too clever for me, but apparently not for him.

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                      hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 11, 2010 10:52 AM

                      I like Good Eats when he's doing the cooking part of the show. Once he tries to be funny or goes into some crazy skit that's usually when I lose interest. He knows his stuff and provides an interesting perspective on cooking. His skits just make him as hokey as any other guy on the food network.

                      1. re: hudsonvalleyfoodblog
                        monavano Jan 11, 2010 11:30 AM

                        ITA. The cooking is good, and I google his recipes to cook at home. Just can't watch the show.
                        Iron Chef is the exception. I watch it for the chefs and of course to see what comes out of Jeffrey's maw.

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                          hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 11, 2010 11:34 AM

                          I enjoy listening to Jeffery as well. His books are also very interesting if you haven't checked them out yet.

                          The thing I really like about Iron Chef is that its the only way to see chefs from around the country cook. They have had a lot of great chefs compete.

                    2. re: hudsonvalleyfoodblog
                      Davwud Jan 11, 2010 07:12 AM

                      Very good post. I will be the first to tell you that I like or dislike hosts based on whether I like or dislike them. I try very hard not to be hypocritical (But still fail sometimes) and for the most part, don't care about product lines, credentials, endorsements or anything else.

                      I care about, am I gonna learn something and/or am I gonna be entertained??

                      I like AB's hokeyness. I like ATK's scientific, exacting technique however as I told Mrs. Sippi the other day, Jacques Pepin sometimes gets part way into a recipe and then seems like he starts to wing it. "Ah close enough", "You could do this or that, it really doesn't matter" and things like that. I think that can be good too. I look at me who will do that and think I must be doing something right if one of the all time greats does it.

                      At the end of the day, not everyone is gonna like every one. All I ask is that if you're gonna criticize, be fair.

                      DT

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                        hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 11, 2010 10:56 AM

                        I totally agree with you. I too like hosts just based on my own preferences and if the show if entertaining to watch. There are some chefs that I like but are painfully boring as TV Hosts. On chowhound however the discussions I have seen take pot shots at people's credentials rather then just saying they don't care for a person or not.

                        I'm with you, criticism should be fair. It would drive me nuts when I'd hear people say that Emeril can't cook. What nonsense! You don't have to like his show but at least be informed enough to know the man can cook.

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                    gloriousfood Jan 8, 2010 06:39 PM

                    I'm a latecomer to this show and have really been enjoying it. The food makes my mouth water; the banter is hot! No problems there and no need to tone it down for me, thank you very much! (And my husband thanks you too. :))

                    Also, I've made their short ribs recipe twice this past holiday season and have received rave reviews both times. It is also so easy to make.

                    1. monavano Jan 7, 2010 06:39 AM

                      Here's a fun idea! Turn on the Neely's show and close your eyes. You will swear you've got a porno on the tube.
                      "Ooooh Pat, oooohhhhh"
                      "Aw, yeah Gina!"
                      "Do the skewer, Pat. Do the skewer!"
                      "Awwww yeh, put on on. Put it on. All the way down. All the way down"

                      I swear, this was last night's episode for skewered shrimp and lime.
                      OMG-I needed a shower!

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                      1. re: monavano
                        LindaWhit Jan 7, 2010 06:47 AM

                        LOL! So maybe they *haven't* toned down the porn part of their show, as others have said!

                      2. alkapal Jan 7, 2010 03:30 AM

                        in watching in passing, i thought the production values have improved since the show's inception -- and the sexuendo reduced.

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                          coney with everything Jan 7, 2010 05:21 AM

                          The sexuendo seems to be less, but the "y'alls" get on my last nerve...y'all.

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                            southernitalian Jan 7, 2010 05:33 AM

                            The show has definitely improved in production quality. I'll admit to a slight crush on Pat. I just don't like the food they make.

                        2. Beach Chick Nov 1, 2009 01:02 PM

                          When watching 'Down home with the Neely's' I almost feel that at any moment they are going to throw all the stuff off the countertops and start getting busy..not in a food way.
                          ; )

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                            NC transplant Jan 3, 2010 12:04 PM

                            For the life of me I do NOT understand why Food Network allow Gina and Pat Neely's off color remarks. It is becoming more common for Gina to make sexual innuendos. If we wanted to hear that type of stuff with cooking, we should rent porno tapes. Food Network needs to get a grip and put her in her place.

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                              dolly52 Jan 3, 2010 07:18 PM

                              I agree, it has been over a year, I tried watching it again and find that these people concentrate on what sexual coment to say over cooking ingredients.

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                            Jacey Nov 1, 2009 09:18 AM

                            I really dislike this show. The food they cook is boring and not very original.

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                              toni Vaughn Oct 29, 2009 08:41 PM

                              Rachel, Paula, and Gina are not chefs but if you want to hear annoying voices put the three together and you could blow a fuse.
                              In Gina's defense I can say that she is just new to the game and was probably prompted to act a certain way by the FN producers.
                              When you think about it, Paula and Rachel seem to be strong women who are real go-getters.
                              Paula talks to her husband and sons quite bossy in my opinion. Rachel acts like she's on speed.
                              GIna made a tape when FN decided to give them a show and if you saw it you would know that she was terrified. I think she just needs time to get her bearings. Perhaps that loud pitch in her voice is a mask for her not being used to being a television personality.
                              And more importantly, I can afford some of the food items that the Neely's use far better than Ina, DeLaurentis and a few others. Who can afford beef tenderloin? I think some chefs really do not realize that their audience cannot cook these expensive meals everyday like they do.
                              Give me a chef who cooks a pot of pinto beans and cornbread. I can afford those.
                              Oh and Alton is not a chef either, but he sure does know his stuff. I just love him.

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                              1. re: toni Vaughn
                                alkapal Oct 30, 2009 04:38 AM

                                deen is a chef in her restaurant, the lady and sons in savannah.

                                she is a go-getter, and knowing her life story, she *had* to be.

                                1. re: toni Vaughn
                                  LaLa Oct 31, 2009 06:23 PM

                                  Alton did go to culinary school..... New England Culinary Institute... graduating in 1997,,,,he also has a degree in Drama from U of Ga.
                                  Interesting I talk the same way to my husband and son as Paula....

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                                    KTinNYC Nov 1, 2009 12:46 PM

                                    Going to culinary school does not make you a chef. Running all aspects of a kitchen makes one a chef. There are great chefs that never went to culinary school but there has never been a person that hasn't run a kitchen that can be called a chef.

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                                      hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 6, 2010 05:44 PM

                                      Guy Fieri ran a kitchen

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                                        KTinNYC Jan 6, 2010 06:52 PM

                                        Who said he didn't?

                                2. alkapal Dec 9, 2008 04:20 AM

                                  i'm totally liking the neelys these days. i'm so happy fn backed off with "pushing" over-the-top-ness. they are engaging, funny and truly likeable people.

                                  they are very affable, and their road trips are really entertaining, too.

                                  1. Davwud Nov 15, 2008 07:42 PM

                                    So Mrs. Sippi decided to watch the show this morning. I have to say, I didn't hate it this time. Have they tweaked the show/personalities?? They were a lot calmer and much less with the double (and sometimes single) entendres.

                                    I may try it again.

                                    DT

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                                      Chefsquire Nov 15, 2008 10:30 PM

                                      Hmm I saw a few minutes today and they did seem slightly toned down, still annoying. I don't care for their little schmaltzy gushing sessions between segments. If I wanted marriage advice I would watch Dr. Phil or some shiz, not FN.

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                                        butterqueen Nov 25, 2008 11:02 PM

                                        I've also tuned in recently and actually find Pat and Gina very entertaining. No, they are not chefs- but they don't pretend to be either. Their recipes are solid and look good, very simple, southern and homey. They have toned down the banter and seem much more comfortable on camera then they did in the earlier seasons. I will watch again.

                                    2. duckdown Sep 14, 2008 09:17 AM

                                      Horrible, horrible show

                                      And what is with the guy making all the sexual slurs to his wife all the time

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                                        Dollbaby Jul 26, 2008 12:37 PM

                                        Hi all, this is my first post, (so please be gentle) LOL.

                                        I had to weigh in on the comment that the Neely's accent is "educated Southern African American". Ah Hayyyyel Naw it isn't. I've lived in the South all my life and my family is pretty well educated and NO one I know sounds like them with all the continuous innuendo, etc. That said, while I can appreciate FN's attempt to show more diversity...I sure wish they could find Marvin Woods from Home Plate!!! His show was classy, fun and informative. I'll bet anything that it would get way more positive reviews that the Neely's shows (which in my humble opinion are pretty embarrasing)

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                                          tryagainplease Aug 12, 2008 08:20 PM

                                          It's obvious that you're not a linguist or a speech pathologist. Anyway, the Neely's accent is quite authentic and the content (i.e. recipies) are as well. It is quite possible that many of you who find their accent or humor "embarrassing" or "annoying" have little experience with African-American people and are uncomfortable with Gina because of your own inexperience. I, on the other hand, am from the South, and am familiar with African-American culture (i.e. food, music, literature, history) and thus, am delighted to see and experience their spirited dialogue, and back and forth banter while simultaneously communicating culinary instructions that no one else on the FN comes close to. I'm delighted and I think that a lot of people are as well. Keep it up Neely's!!!!

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                                            LindaWhit Sep 3, 2008 09:15 AM

                                            Dollbaby SAID she's lived in the South all her life (assuming she's a female with the online name! <g>) so I'd have to say she's probably pretty used to African-American people and has experienced their speech patterns despite you not thinking she has done so.

                                        2. todao Jun 28, 2008 07:31 PM

                                          I did watch it once. Once was enough...

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                                            brendastarlet Jun 30, 2008 08:24 AM

                                            I watched them and this was my basic reaction: I didn't learn anything from them. I am all for diversity on FN; I am happy to hear about BBQ; and I like the Neelys' personalities. But they aren't teaching me technique or dishes I would want to replicate. I get much more out of Bobby Flay's Throwdowns, because they showcase different types of food and chefs.

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                                              chefathome Jul 19, 2008 09:44 AM

                                              Exactly - I have not learned a single thing from them so have zero interest. Far too basic - where did the actual cooking shows go? Is there anything that is even a little challenging? Frankly I am growing very tired of the same old thing, only slightly different versions...

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                                            sierraskyesmom Jun 26, 2008 07:16 AM

                                            The Neely's have owned and operated their BBQ joints here for forever. I think they have a great energy on camera and personally enjoy their show...I'm even guessing that they tape it in their kitchen at home. Not 100% sure on that one, but I know where they live (not scary stalker, its just public record and I was bored one day.) and it fits in with the style that most of those houses have.

                                            That aside, I'm looking forward to their new show...Road Tasted with the Neely's. Yeah, its been done before, but I just like watching these 2 interact.

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                                            1. re: sierraskyesmom
                                              LaLa Jun 26, 2008 11:54 AM

                                              I like how they interact too...I think it is cute.

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                                                sugarsnapp Jun 27, 2008 03:04 PM

                                                i really like them alot as well, i like they way they interact too

                                                -glad they are getting a 2nd show i wish they would show down home in the evening sometime
                                                (maybe replace an ad nauseum rerun of oh i dont know ...UNwrapped maybe?)

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                                              cleveland park May 5, 2008 08:27 AM

                                              I think that if you´re going to have a cooking show on tv, there should be minimum knife skill requirements. It really makes me cringe watching the Neely´s cut an onion or anything for that matter. And for the food network, if you know the guy doesn´t have knife skills, please don´t zoom in on him doing so, it makes the show and the neely´s look bad

                                              1. Candy May 4, 2008 04:33 PM

                                                I don't have the time to read through all of the responses and I respect that you don't have time to read mine. Frankly I was appalled and amazed that these two people would allow such an Uncle Tom type of humiliating show to showcase them. After one or two shows I was so embarrassed by racial bias I just could not bring myself to watch again.

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                                                1. re: Candy
                                                  KenWritez May 4, 2008 09:33 PM

                                                  I think racial bias, as beauty, is in the eye of the beholder--at least as far as they Neelys are concerned. Yes, Gina annoys the crap out of me, as do Giada, Robin Miller, George Duran, and the shoot-on-sight Mark Miller--wait. To save time, let's just say I hate everyone. I'm an equal opportunity curmudgeon.

                                                  Thus I can't see any racial bias in the Neelys' show. I do see geographical and cultural bias--they're from the South and proudly so. But as a Texan, I'm pre-disposed to like the food and culture of the South. I hope the Neelys have great BBQ, I'd love to try it some time, just never within earshot of Gina.

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                                                    Candy May 5, 2008 01:37 AM

                                                    Technically I am a southerner. They characterize themselves so broadly it is an embarassment.

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                                                      KenWritez May 5, 2008 01:57 AM

                                                      I understand your point, but IMHO you're confusing the actions of an entertainer and literal clown with those of a normal person.

                                                      Gina is acting as a clown--the Fool, the jester, the comic, the maker of jokes, the lightning rod for the audience's attention. So yes, her performance is so broad she embarasses herself *if you see her as a normal woman and not a performer.* Think of David Lee Roth, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Ozzy--their actions are different onstage compared to offstage, say at the grocery store or at home cooking a chicken breast for their lunch.

                                                      I'll bet dollars to doughnuts when the cameras are off she's more restrained and calm in her demeanor.

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                                                      holiday6424 Jun 30, 2008 07:53 PM

                                                      I like the Neely's but Gina can be very annoying. Sometimes it seems as if she tries too hard to give off a spunky personality. But it comes across as 2 people "playing" in the kitchen rather than "teaching". It's always been a bit aggravating to me to watch 2 people cooking and speaking at the same time. Sometimes they're talking over each other and it's hard to focus on the main dish when someone else "Gina" is making stupid faces in the camera and laughing uncontrollably at nothing. They could use some coaching. However, hopefully their new series "Road Tasted w/the Neely's will help to shut Gina up and bit and it'll be a hit for them.

                                                  2. dave_c May 4, 2008 11:58 AM

                                                    Finally! I've been able to catch the show during the Sunday marathon.

                                                    The first show was the cornish game hen show...
                                                    Gina is a very fast, hyper, high-pitched talker. Reminds me of Andrew from Top Chef. I can see that being very annoying.
                                                    Pat is very mellow but is quite humorous.

                                                    The second show is the bbq turkey meatloaf.
                                                    Gina has mellowed out... speaking at a slower pace and not as high-pitched.

                                                    Overall, they're cooking for the typical home cook with common pantry items. They're not trying to foo-foo their cooking. I do like the way the two interact and if the hostess can avoid being pitchy it's a watchable show for me. I guess the innuendos don't bother me or they just go over my head... lol.

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                                                      Smileelisa May 3, 2008 02:34 PM

                                                      There is a Down home with the Neely's marathon on Sunday May 4th. I myself will NOT be watching FN tomorrow. I can take about 1 minute of her loud obnoxious voice and 1 second of her sexual innuendo's.

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                                                        texasgranny May 3, 2008 06:21 PM

                                                        Now I feel really bad. I feel bad because I've watched the Neely's show, and I didn't find the show demeaning. The food and the recipes sound good to me. I'm comfortable with the show's parameters, but now feel like something is wrong with me because I enjoy catching their show when I can. And I'll catch a couple of the May 4th marathon of shows too.
                                                        And finally, I still smile recalling my Dad ask a one word question when Mom would tell him she needed sugar. "Granulated"? he would ask!

                                                        1. re: texasgranny
                                                          KenWritez May 4, 2008 01:08 AM

                                                          Texasgranny, don't let other people's opinions push you away from doing what you enjoy. If you like watching the Neelys, then do so with a smile! Life's too short to be ruled by fear of what other people might think. I lived like that for a long time and missed out on a lot of life.

                                                          Some of us, like me, dislike the show and that's our opinion. Others, like you, enjoy it, and that's your opinion. Opinions aren't right or wrong, they just are, like the weather.

                                                          So do what you enjoy doing, whether it's watching the Neelys, writing poetry, or skydiving naked.

                                                          1. re: KenWritez
                                                            lanersg Jun 27, 2008 04:37 PM

                                                            I was just perusing this old thread but just wanted to say, yay KenWritez! What a great post!

                                                          2. re: texasgranny
                                                            beelzebozo May 4, 2008 06:16 AM

                                                            seriously, if you like it, i think that's fine. i can see why some might find it appealing, but it just doesn't strike a chord with me.

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                                                              Ora May 4, 2008 09:24 AM

                                                              texgranny--watch your show! Don't let these comments deter you. Some of the comments on this thread are over the top. Do I think the show needs tweaking?--sure it does--it's new. But, not everythng about it is terrible. I also think some cultural differences are in play--a cooking show doesn't need to be bland and devoid of personality, a cooking show can offer some entertainment with the cooking. In any event, dont let this thread deter you in your tv viewing.

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                                                            SharaMcG May 1, 2008 08:44 AM

                                                            I've watched this show occasionally, and I agree that Gina's loud, annoying ways and endless sexual innuendos make her hard to take. And I really don't need to watch tv to learn how to make a cake from cake mix and jello. I grew up eating those kinds of "semi-homemade" monstrosities, and my adulthood is a conscious decision NOT to eat that way. On the other hand, I hardly blame the Neelys, who obviously love each other and are quite a success in Memphis. The Food Network chose to showcase this family and the kind of food they cook and the way they cook. Gina's over the top behavior is no doubt modeled on the outrageous "Paula's Party" personality that Paula Deen has morphed into. In fact, I suspect that the FN has gotten some pretty bad reviews for DHWTN. In the more recent episodes (yes, I channel surf), Gina is very toned down compared to how she was in the first shows. The later shows have much fewer sexual innuendos, and the focus is more on cooking and less on "personality." I can't hold the Neelys responsible for the FN's weird cult of personality and I don't. However, I can choose not to watch FN, and now I favor PBS where the cooking shows are not so much presented for the MTV generation. The only thing the Neelys themselves are really guilty of is agreeing to present themselves the way the FN likely told them is the recipe for success. I'm sure it was hard to say no considering how well they're probably paid to do it.

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                                                              alkapal May 3, 2008 08:25 AM

                                                              a very balanced view, shara!

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                                                                cleveland park May 5, 2008 08:31 AM

                                                                I agree. I have to thank Food Network for tuning me back into PBS

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                                                                  anonymouse1935 Jul 4, 2010 06:07 AM

                                                                  Oh, ain't THAT the truth, cleveland park!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                  They've outdone themselves this weekend -- the history of ketchup? a documentary on ice cream? glorious stuff -- and it reminds me of when FN didn't cater to opportunists and loudmouths.

                                                                  Don't know if you're still reading, cleveland park, but FN is even more horrific now than it was in 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                              2. alkapal May 1, 2008 07:15 AM

                                                                the production values are poor, too.

                                                                i wanted to like the show. and i'm not a racist, either. it is not a good show. period. fn has several bad shows. just read these boards.

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                                                                  coasterphil Apr 27, 2008 04:26 PM

                                                                  If Gina could keep her mouth shut for more than 5 seconds this show might actually be watchable.

                                                                  1. beelzebozo Apr 27, 2008 04:23 PM

                                                                    they just seem so damn phony to me.

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                                                                      ladyweez Apr 6, 2008 09:45 AM

                                                                      I actually watched this show the first day that it premiered. I was very excited to see African Americans hosting a show. Half way through the show I was logged on the FN website writing about how disappointed I was with the entire show. I couldn't stand all of the sexual innuendo. At one point when they were talking about "Rub Downs" I thought Gina was going to push the meat off the counter & jump up there herself. I do agree that if Pat & his brother could get a few words in edgewise & Gina just kept her mouth shut, the show would be slightly better. All in all I would have to say that the "Spice Fairy" (Gina) was the MOST annoying thing about the whole show. Not sure if anyone else caught this, but is it me or did she seem to be in competition with his mom? Every time he said something about his mom, she tried to come back & show how she could do it better, even at dinner when she put the cake on her head. That was the first & last time I will ever watch that show. As an African American I was embarrassed for them & for FN. At this point, I'm looking forward to the new show Cooking For Real w/ Sunny Anderson. Hopefully this will worth watching.

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                                                                        Tab1975 Apr 7, 2008 01:21 PM

                                                                        Hi everybody! New to the board.

                                                                        The Neely's have actually been on Food Network a TON before this show even aired! Not only where they on Paula's Party and Road Tasted (as mentioned) Bobby Flay was there years ago (can't remember the show but he was traveling the US looking for the best BBQ places), Rachel Ray ate there on an episode of $40 a Day, and Alton Brown and the crew ate there on the Feasting on Asphault: River Run series. Gotta be one of the most exposed restaurants in Memphis. As many times as they've been visited by the Food Network, no WONDER they have their own show.

                                                                      2. alkapal Mar 30, 2008 03:11 AM

                                                                        today: "the darker the berry, the sweeter the juice."
                                                                        now we can do without all this!

                                                                        plus, food is boring.

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                                                                          JacquiS Apr 6, 2008 09:04 AM

                                                                          If food bores you, you haven't been eating in the right places!

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                                                                            alkapal Apr 9, 2008 06:53 AM

                                                                            THEIR food is boring!!!!!!!!

                                                                        2. Mild Bill Mar 25, 2008 10:24 PM

                                                                          Wanting to judge for myself, I went in with an open mind and an open heart..
                                                                          After 20 minutes, 9 'brown sugahs' and 27 flaunting, smirking, 'thank you daddies'
                                                                          I flipped it off and sided with the opposition...

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                                                                            melly Mar 26, 2008 10:41 PM

                                                                            My husband wanted to try watching it last weekend. He can't stand the wife either. All the sexual inuendos made us laugh. I still hate this show and we will never watch it ever again. We tried to watch the entire thing..but we just couldn't do it.

                                                                          2. stellamystar Mar 23, 2008 09:20 AM

                                                                            As for the actual FOOD, they prepare - I am making the Neely's apple crisp (in the oven right now) for Easter. It smells great - let's hope it is, too.

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                                                                              stellamystar Mar 31, 2008 07:22 PM

                                                                              Report on my Neely's Apple Crisp. Easy, portable, and everyone liked it. Extraordinary? No. Will I make it again? In a pinch for company- yes. But, it is pretty hard to mess up apple crisp!

                                                                              I predict this will be a one season wonder..which is fine with me.

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                                                                              cook52 Mar 20, 2008 07:23 PM

                                                                              I watched it once, the man acts halfway normal, the wife acts like Paula Deen.
                                                                              I guess I didn't like her silliness takes away from what they are actually cooking.

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                                                                                cpatte36 Mar 20, 2008 12:04 PM

                                                                                I watch and enjoy Food Network however there is quite a disparity. I was wondering why do they not have more ethnic cooking shows, but I also have my eyebrow up to why a BBQ show. Is that the only cuisine that people of color dine on? Either way people will have their strong opinions on their likes and dislikes for the show and network. I say EAT, DRINK & be "Quiet"!

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                                                                                  southernitalian Mar 20, 2008 12:16 PM

                                                                                  Because they're a good-looking couple who are reasonably well-known and very respected in their home town. They are part of a family that owns a BBQ restaurant. This show could have been good.

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                                                                                    Janet from Richmond Mar 20, 2008 12:38 PM

                                                                                    I think it would be better with Pat and the brothers and without Gina. I hate how she treats Pat like a child or an idiot depending on the situation.

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                                                                                      southernitalian Mar 31, 2008 10:54 AM

                                                                                      I'm sure FN and the Neelys want this thread to go away for good but I have to chime in (again). I watched the first episode again yesterday. DON'T ask me why. I was bored. It really bothers me how FN put this show together because I really think it could be good if it was just Pat and his brother. Or just let them be heard. Let Gina come on the last 5 minutes and make some nauseating dessert. We've got these two guys who obviously know a thing or two about BBQ and they can't get two words out without Motormouth taking up air time to show me how to slice a strawberry. The only problem I can see with this show is how many programs can they do around BBQ? You got your beef, your pork, your chicken, dry and wet. That's 6 episodes. Maybe the brothers could travel to BBQ restaurants in the Memphis area. Just hate to see them fail because of poor editing. They seem talented and sincere.

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                                                                                        Mellicita May 4, 2008 10:23 AM

                                                                                        I'm sure their BBQ food tastes outstanding at their restaurant. The problem with the show is that you can't duplicate slow cooked BBQ meats at home unless you own a smoker (which most people don't have).

                                                                                        So while their real BBQ spaghetti probably tastes great and is certainly a tradition in the south, a home cook putting some non-smoked shredded grocery store meat with a bottled sauce is going to find the result gross.

                                                                                        I would find it more useful it there were instruction on converting a typical grill into a smoker or making a back yard BBQ pit or even how to use a real smoker.

                                                                                        And like others on here, I could do without the constant silliness and flirting. But apparently FN is encouraging their chefs and cooks to all be over the top.

                                                                                  2. re: cpatte36
                                                                                    EWSflash Sep 14, 2008 11:02 AM

                                                                                    Gosh- doesn't anybody remember "Melting Pot on FN just a few years back? Aron Sanchez was just one of the regulars. It was a great show, but maybe I was the only one that thought so. But there was a lot of diversity on that show- many people on ONE show. It's almost segregated the way they do the shows these days, one for the blacks, one for the Latins, one for the whites, one for the crackers (southern whites), one enterpreneurial know-nothing-about-food for the Barbies, etc.

                                                                                    But they got rid of Mario because he knows too much. Way too polysyllabic.

                                                                                    And couldn't they have found somebody to do a Latin cooking show that a) knows something about Latin cooking and b) doesn't have a German name? Ingrid Hoffman- that doesn't count as multicultural, even though she's likely descended from Jews that emigrated to Cuba from Germany just before WWII.

                                                                                  3. JiyoHappy Mar 10, 2008 11:32 PM

                                                                                    I happened to catch this show yesterday, must be a rerun ..
                                                                                    anyhow, they were cooking game hen, creamed collard greens and apple-crisp in ramekens.
                                                                                    There was nothing spectacular about the food or the cooking methods or even the recipe. But the woman kept pointing to her face everytime she said 'brown sugar'
                                                                                    Methinks she feels a sense of guilt about her wealth and so desperately tries to act like the rest of their target audience, making a fool of herself in the process
                                                                                    Just sayin

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                                                                                      darn Mar 10, 2008 04:56 PM

                                                                                      This show is the most rediculous show I have yet to see on Food Network. I wouldnt watch those idiots if I was being paid. They act really stupid.

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                                                                                        SSqwerty Mar 6, 2008 02:40 PM

                                                                                        Seems the Food Network is no longer about food. It's about franchising "properties" with little catchphrases "(Hah, yawwwwwl!") and trademark shrill voices. After all, iit worked with Rachael Ray, so they're actively trying to add more marketable hams to their lineup. Soon it'll be like watching cartoons on Saturday morning TV.

                                                                                        Bet the Neeleys aren't anything like they appear on camera...... once they're OFF camera.

                                                                                        1. madgreek Mar 6, 2008 10:37 AM

                                                                                          Terrible, just terrible. I saw this monstrosity last Friday for the first (and last) time. There is so much wrong with this show, I couldn't even begin to type it all out. It simply isn't even worth the time to comment any more on the subject.

                                                                                          1. Uncle Bob Mar 6, 2008 09:56 AM

                                                                                            Totally trash TV...

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                                                                                              polish_girl Mar 3, 2008 03:58 PM

                                                                                              Can't handle this show. I watched them yesterday for the second time and find the wife extremely annoying. She has this awful "it's all about me" attitude I just can't stand. But I love their Viking kitchen.....

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                                                                                                SDMike Mar 4, 2008 05:04 PM

                                                                                                Me either. I can't agree more with the last two posts. Jeeze...tone it down. They are about the worst FN has added in years, It took me a few flips with Guy, Paula, ect, but this was a instant annoyance.

                                                                                              2. speyerer Mar 2, 2008 09:52 AM

                                                                                                I watched the show a second time. There is a whole lot more talk than cooking – lots of clichés, too many sexual overtones with antics and banter played to the camera for laughs. In other words the show is a lot like Paula Deen's Home Cooking Show, " as she prepares home cooked meals that satisfy your taste buds and soul".

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                                                                                                  melly Mar 2, 2008 06:11 PM

                                                                                                  Amen to that. I was sooo looking forwarding to people of color being on Food Network..finally. But c'mon. We wanted to see em outside BBQing!! Let's see the rubs, the meat, the sauce, mac n cheese, corn on the cob, pie!

                                                                                                  I love BBQ spaghetti, BTW. That over the top wife grates on me. Get rid of her and just have the Neely boys...if I hear something like "he's always takin' my sugar" in that high pitched tone again, I am gonna hurl.

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                                                                                                    thefoodman Mar 3, 2008 08:43 AM

                                                                                                    OKAY-- I just heard Pat say "i'm gonna put the SHALLOPS in the pan" It's SHALLOTS Pat!--I just read all the reviews, some I agree with some I don't. The sexual comments and Gina shakin' her booty (to the camera) HAS TO GO. Gina--If you're out there, please girl...take it down a notch, stop talking over Pat and relax. I think you're "hamming" it up too much. I saw when you were making the cornish hens. SO OVER THE TOP when you were talking about the spices "having a party and dancing with eachother" Talk and cook! Be nicer to Pat, no more dancing, booty shakin', you seem to be a lovely lady just tone it down. oh, and please learn to use a knife you guys.....I do like the lighting. the pictures should come off the cabinets too. Till next time ya'll--The foodman

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                                                                                                    chowser Mar 3, 2008 09:22 AM

                                                                                                    I agree--even the commercial about Pat having a way with his hands turned me off. What they cook is fine but the delivery leaves something to be desired; pun not intended. Take it down a notch or two.

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                                                                                                      JacquiS Apr 6, 2008 09:04 AM

                                                                                                      She DEFINITELY needs to turn it down. Stop shouting, please please quit with the sexual inuendo and stop acting like you're some kind of Goddess of the perfect family. They act like they invented the concept of a close family.

                                                                                                  3. Speechlass1 Mar 1, 2008 06:21 PM

                                                                                                    Great! FoodTV Finally found someone more annoying then Rachel Ray. Someone tell Gina to shut the heck up and let Pat talk. Pat has something of substance to say usually.....she can't compete with his stories or his classy ways and that's why she makes fun of him every time he gets 2 seconds of talk in. I don't see the love that alot of others do in this show. I see a pushy woman making her husband look like a fool.

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                                                                                                      Suzy Q Mar 1, 2008 06:30 PM

                                                                                                      Speechlass, your profile and lack of posts other than this one don't indicate where you're from, but perhaps the way this family communicates and relates to each other is just unlike what you're accustomed to in your own family. Being a Southerner and knowing many families that act in a similar way to what I've see of the Neelys on their show, I'd have to disagree with your assessment. While I'm fairly ambivalent about the show - I don't purposely set out to watch or to avoid it - I really don't see where it's making a fool of anyone.

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                                                                                                        Speechlass1 Mar 1, 2008 06:59 PM

                                                                                                        I have lived in many places and my family is mostly in the south. Loud and obnoxious is just that in which ever state you live in. Over talking another person and just talking jibberish is annoying.

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                                                                                                      mojoeater Feb 26, 2008 06:40 PM

                                                                                                      Anything that gets more Americans in the kitchen and cooking is good in my book. If it takes sexual innuendo, fine.

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                                                                                                        stampchick724 Feb 26, 2008 05:50 PM

                                                                                                        My chief complaint is the use of sharpie to cover the KROGER store brand canned goods and bagged cheese. Come on Food Network and Neely's!! You are cooking in a $300 Viking pan, wearing a rock bigger than mine, but you are using a SHARPIE!!! Other than the over-acting and too much sexual suggestions, it makes this show look low budget...more like Ann Cox on Talk of the Town (a local)...yuk!

                                                                                                        But, Neely's has the BEST slaw on the planet. We drive across town just for the slaw!

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                                                                                                          BarmyFotheringayPhipps Feb 26, 2008 06:53 PM

                                                                                                          Because god forbid a married couple should be sexually attracted to each other. Won't someone think of the children?

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                                                                                                            karlottassoul Mar 1, 2008 05:02 PM

                                                                                                            hahahaha, LOL too funny, you're so right!

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                                                                                                            Suzy Q Feb 26, 2008 08:11 PM

                                                                                                            What's wrong with shopping at Kroger and using a sharpie? Did I miss something?

                                                                                                            And Barmy, you crack me up!

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                                                                                                              Annie S. Feb 26, 2008 11:47 PM

                                                                                                              Mmmmm I don't think stampchick's post is suggesting that sharpies and Krogers are the past-times of inferior people. Rather, it was a comment on the inconsistency of production value between established shows and new ventures. We watch Rachel Ray's Justifying Yourself To Your Nuclear Family in 30 Minutes or Less and clearly they have some top-shelf interns committed to pumping out cutsey faux-labels in Illustrator to glue over their store-bought bounty. And though I haven't tuned in to see this over-acting and sexual innuendo (only seen the Neely's with Paula) - yeah, it does sound completely predictable for a show trying to find its footing - and one I hope that does.

                                                                                                          3. Withnail42 Feb 26, 2008 05:34 AM

                                                                                                            I believe Paula's producers also produces this show.

                                                                                                            I have not seen the show because I really can't be bothered with FN anymore.

                                                                                                            But credit to FN for, finally, putting something different on the air. Granted it is not a huge leap, but a step in the right direction.

                                                                                                            I have not seen the show because I really can't be bothered with FN anymore.

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                                                                                                              Janet from Richmond Feb 26, 2008 06:27 AM

                                                                                                              I watched it the other day and I like the husband and the brothers and think the show would be better with them than the wife who makes everything simply about her. The food wasn't high-brow but good "family style" food and the husband was pleasant and funny without crossing the line into being obnoxious.

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                                                                                                                jcrisco Feb 26, 2008 09:28 AM

                                                                                                                I agree Janet...I liked the husband and brothers, but she waaaaaaaay crosses over into the obnoxious category. I really wanted to like this show, growing up in Tennessee, but I felt like I was watching it with my hands over my face, peeking out and being embaressed for them.

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                                                                                                                  PHATTY GIRL Nov 12, 2010 09:33 PM

                                                                                                                  i totally agree not really to knock anyone but gena is just to loud and bossy she should just chill and let her lead her sometime she kinda of seem a little adh

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                                                                                                                MellieMac Feb 25, 2008 12:26 PM

                                                                                                                This is the most awful show! That womans voice is so highly iritating and their cooking is a heart attack on a plate! Who suggested them for a show? Paula? Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.

                                                                                                                1. Azizeh Barjesteh Feb 24, 2008 09:23 PM

                                                                                                                  I'm really not interested in this show. I'll do exactly what I do when Sandra Lee or Rachael Ray are on, change the channel. The good news is when Sandra Lee comes on, Molto Maria is on Fine Living (in my area, on DirecTv.)
                                                                                                                  As others have said, we have Paula for southern cooking. There have been SO many specials about BBQ, I don't think the information isn't out there if you want it.
                                                                                                                  There are so many cultures and types of cooking that haven't been covered at all. Hell, what about a show that just features segments from different cultures. A Persian chef, Thai, Russian, Mexico, etc.. Then you can truly say that you're being diverse.

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                                                                                                                    LabRat Feb 25, 2008 07:59 AM

                                                                                                                    They had a show during the early years called "My Country, My Kitchen" (if I remember correctly) that featured chef's of different ethnicities preparing dishes from their respective cultures. Good show, but that was before the dark times, before the food network empire.

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                                                                                                                      yamalam Mar 11, 2008 12:04 PM

                                                                                                                      I remember that show, it was great! I'll put it on Tivo, because as someone else mentioned, Fine Living is resurrecting a lot of classic FN shows, like Molto Mario and Sara Moulton's show.

                                                                                                                  2. speyerer Feb 23, 2008 09:53 AM

                                                                                                                    Please ditch "He always stealing my sugar"

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                                                                                                                      Davwud Feb 23, 2008 10:55 AM

                                                                                                                      FTV could just run a quick edit clip, "He's always stealing my sugar." "Bam!" "Yum-O." "Oh ya Babe." "How cool is that?"

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                                                                                                                        BarmyFotheringayPhipps Feb 23, 2008 10:58 AM

                                                                                                                        She's said that exactly once. What are you even talking about?

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                                                                                                                          Davwud Feb 23, 2008 01:28 PM

                                                                                                                          I wouldn't know. I watched half of one show. I was more making comment on the fact that FTV seems to love people with some sort of catch phrase.

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                                                                                                                            BarmyFotheringayPhipps Feb 23, 2008 07:09 PM

                                                                                                                            Saying something ONCE makes it the exact opposite of a catch phrase.

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                                                                                                                              Davwud Feb 24, 2008 01:56 PM

                                                                                                                              "Saying something ONCE makes it the exact opposite of a catch phrase."
                                                                                                                              Really?? Cause I had no idea.

                                                                                                                              I didn't know that it was only said ONCE since I only managed half of the first show. It was presented by another poster and I interpreted it as something that is said often.

                                                                                                                              DT

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                                                                                                                                Annie S. Feb 26, 2008 11:35 PM

                                                                                                                                Oh good God, I've been on FoodTV/HGTV binge for the last month, and if I didn't go a day without hearing "He's always stealing my sugar" 12 times during primetime... this was how the show was pitched across the cable landscape, a commercial featuring this line *as if* they were trying to brand it ala "BAM!" Yum-O" style - so I do get where Davwud and speyerer are coming from.

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                                                                                                                          Smileelisa Apr 5, 2008 04:11 PM

                                                                                                                          don't forget here we go. Giada must say that 15-20 times while she is on the air. As for the Neely's I have watched a few episodes but find she is just too loud for my taste. but that is why we have the option to change the channel if we don't like what is on

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                                                                                                                          southernitalian Feb 24, 2008 04:40 AM

                                                                                                                          My daughter and I love that! We've been saying it all week. "She always stealing my sugar!" XX

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                                                                                                                            Suzy Q Feb 24, 2008 05:43 AM

                                                                                                                            My grandmother always used to say that when I was a little girl. I have one German friend who asked me what I meant when he heard me ask my young niece to "give Aunt Suzy some sugar". I think I made him understand the concept, but he said he'd never heard anything like that before.

                                                                                                                            Come to think of it, I'm not sure my NY-born and raised hubby knew what that meant, either.

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                                                                                                                          Sammiches Feb 19, 2008 09:12 PM

                                                                                                                          Yes, the Food Network is trying to dispel the complaint about the network about not having people of color. They are airing this show during Black History Month. A lame attempt at multi-culturalism.

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                                                                                                                            ccbweb Feb 19, 2008 09:28 PM

                                                                                                                            I get confused about what makes the attempt lame. If you don't like the show, ok, but otherwise, it's clearly some form of diversity at work, and that seems like a good thing.

                                                                                                                            If they'd run the show in January, people would say they were trying to forestall complaints in February because it's Black History Month. Whenever they run a show that breaks away from having a white host, some are going to deride them as engaging in a shameful attempt to have a token show. They have to start somewhere and at some time during the year, why not applaud the effort and critique it on its merits.

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                                                                                                                              BarmyFotheringayPhipps Feb 19, 2008 10:00 PM

                                                                                                                              What will you say when it's still on the air in March? Perhaps "They're just showing this because Obama is doing so well in the polls!"

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                                                                                                                                Suzy Q Feb 20, 2008 09:43 AM

                                                                                                                                I'm not sure why any attempt at multiculturalism should be labelled as "lame", unless it is crass or offensive in some way. Which, IMHO, this show is not. It's a show featuring an African American family that has been quite successful in their chosen field. I don't know if the timing is intentional or not, but Black History Month seems as good a time to premier this show as any.

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                                                                                                                                  moymoy Feb 20, 2008 11:10 AM

                                                                                                                                  I enjoy the Neely's, at least they are cooking real hearty food minus the frou-frou. I would love, love, love a thai cooking show...are you reading FN?!?

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                                                                                                                                    stellamystar Feb 21, 2008 05:31 PM

                                                                                                                                    Thai and Indian!!!! Bring it on FN!!!

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                                                                                                                                      karlottassoul Mar 1, 2008 05:04 PM

                                                                                                                                      GAWD, I would LOVE to see more of a variety....Thai and Indian ,yes bring it on!

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                                                                                                                                        PHATTY GIRL Nov 12, 2010 09:29 PM

                                                                                                                                        how about jamacian meals and chinese who dont eat rice

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                                                                                                                                mumblety Feb 19, 2008 05:41 PM

                                                                                                                                Food Network has long seemed more invested in building a cult of personality/marketable celebs than in gourmet shows. That said, the Neely show is fairly inoffensive- it's not my cup of tea but I enjoy the couple and the food is appealing if you're into BBQ.

                                                                                                                                But it does seem a little calculated- I remember on Next Food Network Star, Jag mentioned that they weren't really including Latino chefs and they seemed a little miffed. But it was the truth--- "Simply Delicioso" didn't come around until AFTER NFNS and Down Home is bringing some new diversity as well.

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                                                                                                                                  ccbweb Feb 19, 2008 08:41 PM

                                                                                                                                  What could they do that would not "seem calculated?"

                                                                                                                                  Also, TV shows take a bit of time to plan and produce; it's very likely they had Simply Delicioso in the works before Jag was cast in The Next Food Network Star.

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                                                                                                                                    mumblety Feb 19, 2008 08:54 PM

                                                                                                                                    You're right, it has to be calculated because that's how TV works. I think a better way of saying it is that it seems disingenuous to me- like they're more interested in filling a niche any way they can than just showcasing what they perceive as talent.

                                                                                                                                    SD definitely had to have been in the works before the Jag debacle. But his point at the time was valid- at that moment in time, they still did NOT have a lot of latino representation and he wanted to help them present some latino flair, however he might have done so with his skills (which I'd considered kind of limited anyway). Their umbrage over the remark seemed kind of strange---- had they just said "we have some things in the pipeline now" it would have been better, but instead I thought they insisted that they thought they DID have a latino presence.

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                                                                                                                                  littlestevie Feb 18, 2008 12:10 PM

                                                                                                                                  After watching ultimate receipe showdown, it makes the Neely's show look like any of J Pepan's shows by comparison.

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                                                                                                                                    swsidejim Feb 18, 2008 05:08 AM

                                                                                                                                    cant have too many shows about bbq in my world.

                                                                                                                                    caught one episode, and would probaby watch them again if their are no sports to watch.

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                                                                                                                                      Madelyne Feb 18, 2008 05:54 AM

                                                                                                                                      I saw the first episode, wasn't really impressed by it. I like BBQ and all but I'm surrounded by it all the time living in the South. Don't understand why FN would do yet another southern-type cooking show when Paula Deen is already on air all the time with her show and with Paula's Party.
                                                                                                                                      I know they want to appeal to the home cook, which is fine, but do all these new shows need to be of the same format? I've learned a lot from FN but feel like I'm growing out out of it already.

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                                                                                                                                        swsidejim Feb 18, 2008 06:06 AM

                                                                                                                                        I can see your points. I just enjoy seeing different takes on bbq since I own a smoker, and am always looking for others techniques, styles, etc..

                                                                                                                                        I dont watch Paula, so I dont get that overload. I do get an overload with two FN channels, the regular one, and FNHD. Other than Bobby Flay not much on either that I like to watch. They are just a part of my channel surfing regulars.

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                                                                                                                                          Withnail42 Feb 18, 2008 06:19 AM

                                                                                                                                          That's what FN does they have one type of show and they use it over and over. Same goes for the people. Lose one plump shorts wearing Italian, bring in in another.

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                                                                                                                                        AMFM Feb 17, 2008 05:19 PM

                                                                                                                                        I HATED this show watching for the first time but it had nothing to do with the food they were making. I've seen broccoli cheddar cornbread and vegetable soup with fried porkchops. It was very homey and all, not exactly my type but that didn't phase me. I'm fine with shows that are for everyday cooks since I basically am one. But I found their style ridiculous and annoying. I wanted to like them and was glad to see FN branching out, but it just looked like they were trying too hard. Like Paula on a sugar rush or something - "give me some of that sugar, sugar" followed by screeching laughter is only funny once if at all. Sorry.

                                                                                                                                        1. lynnlato Feb 17, 2008 09:50 AM

                                                                                                                                          WTF???? I just caught this show and it was the most horrible thing I've ever watched on The Food Network. Whoa. My head is still spinning... as is my stomach.

                                                                                                                                          Barbecue spaghetti, strawberry shortcut cake and more sexual innuendo than Hugh Hefner can muster. Seriously, don't the execs at Food TV coach these folks or at least watch one of these taped episodes? Gina Neely said things like "wah-la" (voila) and her brother in law said "eggcellento". Ugh.

                                                                                                                                          The ribs looked good but the rest of the stuff they called "food" was worse than something you'd get at the local school cafeteria. Barbecue spaghetti made w/ barbecue sauce & shredded pork - ew. Strawberry short cut cake made w/ boxed cake, jello, strawberries and whipped cream.

                                                                                                                                          I rarely watch Food TV as it is and catching this show just reaffirmed why. The Neely's, Rachel Ray, Paula Deen & Sandra Lee have destroyed any credibility the network had from Mario, Brown, DeLaurentis, Garten, etc.

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                                                                                                                                            BarmyFotheringayPhipps Feb 17, 2008 10:19 AM

                                                                                                                                            "Barbecue spaghetti made w/ barbecue sauce & shredded pork"

                                                                                                                                            Erm...as opposed to barbecue spaghetti made WITHOUT barbecue sauce and shredded pork? Sorry that the dish isn't to your taste, but barbecue spaghetti is a common dish around Memphis, as well as one of the renowned specialties of Jim Neely's Interstate Barbecue, the family restaurant.

                                                                                                                                            Anyway, you lost me when you claimed that the idiotic Little Big Head gave Food Network any credibility: call me when she runs a restaurant one-tenth as good as Neely's Interstate.

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                                                                                                                                              Missi Feb 19, 2008 12:31 PM

                                                                                                                                              Barmy you took the words right out of my mouth, about the BBQ spaghetti that is. While I don't think it's my cup of tea, it certainly is a staple in the TN area. I think the Neely's have a restaurant also in the Memphis airport. I ate there, had the BBQ sandwich and it was wonderful. I'd love to try their ribs, both wet and dry. I've watched their show and they come across as just a good old down home wholesome family. They don't put on airs, as a certain New York male chef does, and they act like they are having fun while they are cooking. To get right down to it, isn't cooking and having fun with your family while doing so what it's all about? I certainly think so.

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                                                                                                                                                toni Vaughn Oct 29, 2009 06:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                I thought I was the only one who noticed the Big Head!!! Are we talking about GDe????So funny!!!

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                                                                                                                                                digkv Feb 17, 2008 10:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                I thought the barbecue spaghetti looked delicious. It's one of those Southern barbecue things that they do: a real regional thing I guess, so it's not really right for us to judge the validity of the food. I also don't think that DeLaurentis has any cred at all, I think Paula Deen has more cred than she does. Paula is an expert in Southern food and though she has become a strange exaggerative character she still knows a lot about food. Also, to not the Neely's talking, it's quite weird. Their accents don't seem region specific or anything, I would never have expected them to be Southern but could expect them to be from the west coast or something.

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                                                                                                                                                  lynnlato Feb 17, 2008 03:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Forgive me, barbecue spaghetti is so against the grain for me, the daughter of a Sicillian cook. I've never heard of such a thing and would never, ever eat what they made. Some things are just wrong and that is one of them. Have u seen the show?

                                                                                                                                                  You can defend it 'til the cows come home... Paula Deen doesn't know food, she knows commercialism. Deep fried cheese cake is not "Southern" food it's gross.

                                                                                                                                                  Call it regional food or whatever you like. The Neely's, although probably lovely people, have no culinary skills outside of their bbq. They over used, and improperly used, the term "balance". As in "the onion powder balances the paprika" or "the cayenne pepper balances the black pepper"... what? And they made comments like "the apple cider vinegar is bitter to the sweetness of the sugar" It's not bitter it's acidic. Why would you add jarred lemon pepper seasoning to the cole slaw when you've already added fresh lemon juice and zest. Because you're not paying attention, that's why.

                                                                                                                                                  I could go on but why?

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                                                                                                                                                    alkapal Feb 17, 2008 04:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                    actually, paula deen does know southern food -- but we haven't seen it in a long, long time....

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                                                                                                                                                      digkv Feb 18, 2008 10:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Haha, I love how my sort of sarcastic response was deleted by the admins. I guess I offended someone out there? Anyways, since my mom doesn't actually know an actual "recipe"I found on online that was similar http://www.recipehound.com/Recipes/12... only difference is that my mom would actually sear the pork. She used this weird dark brown sugar "candy" for the caramel but I think turbinado is a good substitute. She also used frozen coconut juice. To eat this properly you have to serve it with pickled bean sprouts and scallions called gai chua. Just to make sure this isn't deleted: the neely's seem like nice people.

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                                                                                                                                                        alkapal Feb 18, 2008 04:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                        bravo, digkv!

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                                                                                                                                                      Suzy Q Feb 17, 2008 05:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                      "The Neely's, although probably lovely people, have no culinary skills outside of their bbq."

                                                                                                                                                      Good thing that's what they sell in their restaurant, then, isn't it?

                                                                                                                                                      The BBQ spaghetti is a local Memphis thing. It seems like an odd combo to me, but hey - to each their own. I'd never try to argue BBQ with anyone. There are folks who think vinegar sauce on 'cue is just as weird, but there are tons of us in North Carolina who love it.

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                                                                                                                                                        lynnlato Feb 18, 2008 05:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Et tu, Suzy Q?

                                                                                                                                                        Check out the show. They were so over the top. I take issue more w/ FTV for not helping these folks. Where's the production? It's as if they set up a camera and left.

                                                                                                                                                        Mr. Neely, "trimmin' the skirt" (eyebrows up & down at Gina).

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                                                                                                                                                          Withnail42 Feb 18, 2008 06:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Over the top, bad production...is this your first time watching FN?

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                                                                                                                                                            lynnlato Feb 18, 2008 06:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Good point.

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                                                                                                                                                              Suzy Q Feb 18, 2008 05:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                              That's exactly what I was going to say...this definitely wouldn't be the first time an FN show was over the top. Paula's Party, anyone???

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                                                                                                                                                              southernitalian Feb 19, 2008 12:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Lynn - you know I always have your back but you said so yourself, you don't watch a lot of FN. This is what it's become. That's why so many CHers rant and rave about what once was great entertainment and is now aimed at the lowest common denominator. I don't know why I can't stop watching. But this show is like a lot of FN. It's a train wreck. I can't not watch.

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                                                                                                                                                                lynnlato Feb 19, 2008 01:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                Ha! I suppose that's why I watched the show through to the end in the first place. Kind of like nascar, some folks just watch it for the wrecks - ha!

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                                                                                                                                                              stellamystar Feb 21, 2008 05:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                              I put this in the Cincinnati Chili category. To each his/her own! Personally, I think it sounds tasty - but with macaroni not spaghetti.

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                                                                                                                                                              Davwud Feb 20, 2008 09:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                              Best not try Cincinnati chili either then.

                                                                                                                                                              I agree with the assessment that the show is terrible. Mrs. Sippi is from just south of Memphis and was all excited about watching. I gave up half way through and since she hasn't bothered to talk about it/watch it again I'd say she wasn't very impressed.

                                                                                                                                                              As for the food, just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean you should dismiss it. Secondly, how do you know if you don't love bbq spaghetti (or something else) unless you give it an honest taste drive??

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                                                                                                                                                                mrsjoeburgess May 4, 2008 03:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                It is a common fact that what is considered nasty and disgusting in one culture is a culinary delight in others. I personally hate calamari and find it puzzling why anyone would choose to consume such a thing. On the other hand, others may question why I throughly enjoy black eyed peas and sweet cornbread mushed together in one bowl, eaten with my hands. We are all different and those differences should be celebrated not criticized. So Gina Neely said a word incorrectly. Big deal. Let her use her colloquialisms. It makes her her.

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                                                                                                                                                                  hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 6, 2010 05:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  I think that's a pretty closed minded position on food.

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                                                                                                                                                                  Missi Feb 19, 2008 12:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Having lived in the Deep South for about 40 years, I find that the Neelys do have an accent. It one of a educated southern African American family. LOL if anyone, black or white, uses y'all a lot while talking, that's a southern accent. Although southern accents do vary from state to state and even to different portions within a state. And I agree that Paula is indeed an expert in the ways of Southern cooking. I don't think she exaggerates very much at all, I just see it as her natural personality coming though.

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                                                                                                                                                                    Goodinthekitchen Jun 4, 2010 12:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Sorry, but unless you have not noticed the "old south" has changed. Paula does not cook like anyone I know (lived in GA all my life), and is promotting outrageous things like doughnuts as hamburger buns. Many of those in her own city, Savannah, talk about how she lacks authenticity and gives nothing back to her community. She is not well liked there.

                                                                                                                                                                    Paul is an expert at one thing, self promotion

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                                                                                                                                                                      alkapal Jun 4, 2010 04:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      she isn't "from" savannah, but a small town in s.e. georgia, near the fla-ala. border. but i'll bet they don't cook like that there, either.

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                                                                                                                                                                        kprange Jul 4, 2010 04:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        We have some kind of donut burger here in Illinois - donut is the bun. Never had it, but some people swear by it.

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                                                                                                                                                                    RRICCH Feb 26, 2008 09:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    Bar-B-Q spaghetti is a staple at any BBQ resteraunt in Memphis. Don't knock it until you try it.

                                                                                                                                                                    If BBQ spaghetti sounds repulsive, have you ever tried BBQ pizza?

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                                                                                                                                                                      holiday6424 Jun 30, 2008 07:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Hey,

                                                                                                                                                                      I just have to comment on your response to the Neely's off key sorta speech. Well as we all know from Paula and the creepy gothnic Ida Garden, the Food Network has all kinds of off balance characters ie: Alton Brown, Ace of Cakes and even Guy whats his name. I feel the network is aiming to showcase a character that someone from every side of the world can relate to. There is Giada who is very conservative, Sandra Lee who's a blend of southern girl yet modern. Paula is like everyone favorite great aunt, she's loud, lively, full of stories and willing to try just about anything at least once just for fun. Then even the gay guys are people that a certain community can relate to, then we have the bad boys of the network... Guy and the Ace of Cakes guy. So stop coming down so hard on the Neelys as everyone's style may not suite your fancy therefore just tune in and watch the one's you can relate to. Not everyone on The Food Network channel has culinary skills but they give off their own unique brand of cooking and personality that's sure to capture someone's attention in tv land. The Neely's will grow as time goes on just like all the others, give them a fair chance. If you've ever seen old episodes from Bobby Flay, when he first started he couldn't even operate a blender so how's that for starters.

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                                                                                                                                                                        southernitalian Aug 13, 2008 08:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        Sandra Lee is from the state of Washington, about as un-southern as you can get. Assuming you are referring to Ina Garten, please tell me what "gothnic" means. I'm dying to know! "Even the gay guys are people that a certain community can relate to"? Really? Seriously, really?

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                                                                                                                                                                        LindaWhit Jan 7, 2010 05:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        I don't think its your place to decide if something is good or not.
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                                                                                                                                                                        Ummm, why not? Just because a TV personality says something is good doesn't mean it is! Taste is an opinion - so lynnlato has expressed her opinion, as have many others. Her opinion of this show when she watched it was that she didn't like it or the hosts or the food they presented. It's as simple as that. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean her opinion is any less valid. You like the show and the food, she and others don't.

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                                                                                                                                                                          hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 7, 2010 05:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          Actually I don't like or dislike the Nealy show. However I do know that they own successful restaurants and are very knowledgeable when it comes to BBQ and southern cuisine. Yet people here seem comfortable bashing them with no knowledge of southern cuisine or even ever trying their food. These negative type of posts are irresponsible. If you want to share an informed opinion I'm all for it, instead I'm just seeing senseless bashing.

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                                                                                                                                                                            LindaWhit Jan 7, 2010 05:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            Well, now that's just your opinion, isn't it? Just as lynnlato expressed hers. And as KTinNYC said above, it's not really that hard to figure out what BBQ spaghetti would taste like - and it doesn't sound good to me either.

                                                                                                                                                                            http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/pa...

                                                                                                                                                                            Nope, BBQ sauce (to ME) doesn't belong on spaghetti.

                                                                                                                                                                            Oh - and you didn't answer my question to you - why is it not lynnlato's place (or anyone else's place) to decide if something is good or not? Why is it ONLY the Neely's place, in this instance?

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                                                                                                                                                                              southernitalian Jan 7, 2010 05:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              That seriously looks revolting.

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                                                                                                                                                                                LindaWhit Jan 7, 2010 05:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                Almost as bad as the Kwanzaa Cake, huh? ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 7, 2010 06:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                People like the Nealy's work hard their entire lives. They build up successful restaurants with a passionate following. Then they get scouted and offered a show on the Food Network. After all that hard work and success with a few key strokes you guys feel they should be knocked down or even worse discredit their culinary chops. It just shows ignorance on your part, not theirs.

                                                                                                                                                                                It's not lyynlato's place because she never even tried the food. At least try the food. Sometimes you can be surprised by food. It might not sound good at first until you try it. I have no idea if BBQ spaghetti is good or not but I would at least try it before formulating such a negative posting.

                                                                                                                                                                                This food snob stance really ruins all the positives of food and cooking.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  southernitalian Jan 7, 2010 06:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Hey - all we said was that BBQ spaghetti doesn't seem like it would taste good. I think I can closely "imagine" what BBQ would taste like on pasta and it doesn't seem appealing. I like the Neely's and have defended them. I've gone as far as admitting a crush on Pat! I certainly appreciate their hard work. I watched their Cheftography! Are you saying no one on this board can be critical of any recipe anyone whips up on Food Network unless we've actually tasted their food? Because that would seriously limit the number of posts to this board.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 7, 2010 08:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    People are overly critical

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                                                                                                                                                                                    LindaWhit Jan 7, 2010 06:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Ahh, I see - because *you* say it's not her place to to comment on the food, it is so. Got it.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Look - people make judgments about food ALL the time. It looks good, it looks bad. Whether or not they've tasted it. We do it all the time. An opinion is an opinion is an opinion. You don't have to agree with it.

                                                                                                                                                                                    But you also don't have the right to say it's not someone's place to say they don't like the idea of BBQ spaghetti because it's their opinion - based on their OWN tastebuds, and based on what *they know* they like or don't like.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Well, I take that back. You have the right to say it. But people don't have to agree with you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      lynnlato Jan 7, 2010 07:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      The irony here is that I live in the south and have for 15 years. I adore southern food. Country ham, collards, eastern & lexington-style 'cue, hushpuppies, grits, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I am by no means a food snob. I could go on and on about how I love hoagies, cheesesteaks, chik-fil-a and bojangles. But if i tried to get some folks to eat scrapple (a common breakfast item back in my home state of pa) some would turn their noses up at it. So, I'm turning my nose up at bbq spaghetti. My doing so certainly doesn't warrant all this debate.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Listen, I've been posting on these boards for several years. I've had the pleasure of interacting with many wonderfully talented people who have taught me so much about food and cooking. They've steered me to great restaurants in places that i've traveled to and hopefully I've given back in the same way (I did just get an email from a woman who thanked me for my recs for a restaurant in Portugal that was the highlight of her trip). My point is no one should be criticized or feel attacked for expressing their opinion here. Its counter-productive. This thread was about The Neely's show and I, two years later, still do not care for the show. Some folks do and good for them. I wish The Neely's success and hope that you, my friend, have a happy 2010.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 7, 2010 08:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I love scrapple, my home state as well. Let's end this conversation on that positive note.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      kprange Jul 4, 2010 04:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Hey, I thought the same thing about BBQ spaghetti, as did my friends who ate my BBQ spag at a dinner party I had. They and I loved it. I took BBQ that I really liked and basically added pasta to it. Fabulous! Give it a try sometime. You might be surprised. I know I was.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        bookhound Jul 4, 2010 09:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I've had it and didn't enjoy it. You could just as easily replaced the spaghetti with white bread and it'd have been as enjoyable. The pasta is really soggy from all the barbecue sauce and it's just not what I like about noodles with sauce as opposed to sauce with noodles, if you get my meaning.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          kprange Jul 5, 2010 05:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I made my own, and was able to control the amount of sauce that was on the spaghetti. The only other place I have had it where it was good was Marlowe's in Memphis. There was sauce, pasta and tender meat in every bite; no soggy spaghetti. I probably wouldn't have had it again if the pasta were soggy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Buckethead Jan 7, 2010 07:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't have to eat at their restaurant in order to know that they use cooking terminology incorrectly on their show. I just need to watch the show. Which I don't, now, because I lost count of the number of times they were doing something in the kitchen and describing it totally incorrectly. The one that stands out in my mind was one episode where they were cooking a saucepan filled halfway with apple slices (maybe 3-4 inches deep in the pan) covered in some kind of syrup for a dessert. They described this as 'sauteing'.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Goodinthekitchen Jun 4, 2010 12:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I agree (to a point). The Neelys' and Paula Deen are "dummying" down Food Network. I will absolutely turn the channel to avoid hearing or seeing these two shows.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Rachel and Sandra Lee have successfully promotted a return to the kitchen for the "minimizers", but are certainly not on a scale with Bobby Flay, Giada and Ina.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I think other true cooks from the south will agree that the Neelys and Paula are not only fake, but embarrassing. If I here them say ya'll, sweetie or spice fairy one more time I may get ill.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I think what American needs to see is true chefs preparing original recipes that are also somewhat healthy. Look to Bobby, Giada and a few others to do that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      alkapal Jun 4, 2010 04:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      i don't think the neelys are fake or embarassing. paula is over the top, but i think it is over (her own) top.

                                                                                                                                                                                  4. Withnail42 Jan 10, 2008 02:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Have not seen the show. But good to hear they are getting away from the low-cut-quick-and-easy set. I just hope that the Neely's have not been indoctrinated into the FN cult of (louder and outrageous is better) personality. And does this mean their family is going to be a big part of the show as well?

                                                                                                                                                                                    That being said however there are already numerous BBQ specials and several souther cooking shows already on. As someone already said it would have been nice to see FN try something completely different.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Perhaps they are the first of the new crop of talent that FN is cultivating to make money from merchandising.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Anyone been to their restaurant?

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                                                                                                                                                                                      tennreb Jan 10, 2008 06:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Yes, their restaurant is very good. It's not touristy at all (about 95% local clientele), and it is one of the better bbq restaurants in a city famous for bbq restaurants. The Neely's seem to be a louder, more boisterous group, but they aren't faking it and seem to be a lot of fun. I think the Food Network is looking for more minority representation. Nearly 1/3 of our nation is not white, yet this isn't represented on the food network. While there is a lot of "barbeque" on the food network, hardly any of it is real barbecue in the traditional sense of the word. The Neely's should bring the element of real barbeque and soul food (not the same as Southern) to the network.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Bhutani Jan 11, 2008 09:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I remember the Neely Bros. from an episode of BBQ with Bobby Flay (yeah, I watch too much Food TV). In that episode, the 2 brothers fought over wet vs dry ribs. Either way, both styles looked pretty darn good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          tennreb Jan 11, 2008 09:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes, both styles are very good, and it is really a matter of preference. "Wet or dry?" is the classic question in Memphis, like asking someone if they are Democrat or Republican. I'm a dry-leaning independent. It really depends on what restaurant I'm in. Some places have better wet, some have better dry.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            WCchopper Mar 26, 2008 11:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            I just say "yes, please"

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Missi Jan 20, 2008 03:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          The Food Network is decidedly lacking in "people of color" and yes they were on Paula's Party, at least that's where I first saw them. So I say WTG Food Network for your attempts at diversity but.... their show has a bad time slot IMHO, 11 PM ET, and what about the winners of the first Food Network Star, the gay couple, are they even on anymore? If they are it's in the middle of the night or very early in the morning. Maybe the Neely's will be seen in reruns on the weekends. I for one am sick of seeing the same shows every weekend. Case in point, right now they are showing the Beef Cookoff competition, which was shown yesterday, and twice last weekend, etc, etc. I hope the Neely's is a hit and gets a better time slot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            hummingbird Jan 20, 2008 05:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, they are still on, usually around 10:30am, but I don't kow the last time I saw one of their shows.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Here's their schedule, Party Line with the Hearty Boys:

                                                                                                                                                                                            http://tinyurl.com/3d6l9v

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                                                                                                                                                                                        HollyDolly Jan 10, 2008 11:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Who exactly are the Neely's? I don't get the Food Network anymore so have no idea about some of the shows.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          stellamystar Jan 10, 2008 01:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I think they own a restaurant - BBQ - Memphis.

                                                                                                                                                                                          I would rather have an Indian or Thai show, personally. But, that is a different thread entirely!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            ChinoWayne Jan 11, 2008 09:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Interstate Barbecue in Memphis: http://www.jimneelysinterstatebarbecue.com/

                                                                                                                                                                                            and

                                                                                                                                                                                            Neely's Bar-B-Que in Mempis and Nashville: http://www.neelysbbq.com/home.htm

                                                                                                                                                                                            Not only do they disagree between wet and dry, but on spelling too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Ora Feb 27, 2008 08:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Why not all of the above type of shows? Meaning, why not a Neeley's, Indian, Thai and other cuisines. This is why Food Network is failing now--limited thinking.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                jpc8015 Jul 18, 2008 10:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Food Network needs to get away from stupid reality shows like "The Next Food Network Star". Give me Alton Brown and Good Eats anyday.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 6, 2010 05:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I like Good Eats as well I just wish he could eliminate those cheesy skits. Those are awful and in my opinion take away from the show.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  dtremit Jan 10, 2010 11:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hell, for the Indian show they could bring over "Indian Food Made Easy" from the BBC more or less intact. Caught a few episodes while over there on vacation and really wish it would run here.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                digkv Jan 10, 2008 04:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I think I saw the Neely's guest star one time on Paula's show. That's probably where they came from- they had nice chemistry with Paula though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  RRICCH Feb 26, 2008 09:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Neeley family owns several resteraunts in Memphis. Having just moved from there, it's nice to see something familiar on TV and I get some of the receipies fto bring the flavor to my new home. Their food was great and I enjoy eating there on return trips.

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