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  <id>477823</id>
  <title>Gourmet vs. Gourmand</title>
  <published_at>Wed Jan 09 16:58:41 -0800 2008</published_at>
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    <id>29</id>
    <name>Not About Food</name>
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        <content>It seems that some people use the word interchangeably on here.

I always though that a gourmet was a person who appreciated fine food and a gourmand was a glutton.  When I googled for the definition, the preferred def of gourmand was a lover of fine food.

Is the glutton component of gourmand "old school"?

Discuss.</content>
        <published_at>Wed Jan 09 16:58:41 -0800 2008</published_at>
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          <name>filth</name>
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      <content>&gt;&gt;&gt;I always though that a gourmet was a person who appreciated fine food and a gourmand was a glutton. &lt;&lt;&lt;

That was always my understanding as well, but I have recently heard the two words used exchangeably.  According to my dictionary, a "gourmet" is a connoisseur of fine food and drink, i.e. an epicure, while a "gourmand" is a person who delights in eating well and heartily; so, obviously, the words are related, but the second has the nuance of eating "heartily" as well as enjoying fine food.

The etymology of the words clears things up a bit.  "Gourmand" is from the Middle English word "gourmaunt,' which meant glutton, and "gourmaunt" itself was derived from the Old French word "gourmand/gourmant."  That word came from the Old French gromet/gourmet, which was a wine merchant's servant.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 09 17:25:04 -0800 2008</published_at>
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        <name>DanaB</name>
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      <content>In the words of the late Justin Wilson, in his "Gourmet &amp; Gourmand Cookbook": "A gourmet is a person what likes fine food. A gourmand isn't nothin' but a P-I-G hog. Me, I'm both."</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 10 11:10:41 -0800 2008</published_at>
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        <name>jmckee</name>
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      <content>I think a gourmet actively cooks or prepares the good stuff. A gourmond just enjoys the good stuff. Never associated either with gluttony.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 10 11:21:47 -0800 2008</published_at>
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        <name>rednyellow</name>
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      <content>I've noticed the misuse of gourmand here and elsewhere in the food world. At least I was convinced based on a couple years of high school French that it was wrong to use them interchangeably. 

Then I confirmed it. 

I was in Europe at a wedding about a year and a half ago and asked the question of some fellow wedding guests, a couple from Lyon, and they confirmed to me that, at least in French, gourmet is a lover of fine food and gourmand is a lover of lots of food.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 10 11:37:58 -0800 2008</published_at>
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        <name>gido</name>
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      <content>A gourmand is considered a glutton, yes.  

French culinary proponents are advocating that the French Catholic Church update the infamous "Seven Deadly Sins" list to refer to "gloutonnerie" rather than "gourmandise".

My Blog: http://www.epicureforum.com</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 10 11:48:00 -0800 2008</published_at>
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        <name>sirregular</name>
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      <content>This question came up when I was working at a copy desk of our local newspaper -- where such things are taken very very seriously. I believe the outcome was that according to most current definitions the words can be used interchangeably, although some note that a distinction once was made. Personally, I'll never use them interchangeably and when someone brags of being a gourmand, I tend to smirk and look at their waistline/butt.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 10 12:04:51 -0800 2008</published_at>
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      <content>in french, gourmet is an adjective and gourmand is a noun. people here use them (incorrectly) interchangeably a lot of the time.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 10 16:09:54 -0800 2008</published_at>
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        <name>tuqueboy</name>
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