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<topic>
  <id>476043</id>
  <title>Please name this Serbian wine</title>
  <published_at>Fri Jan 04 07:04:39 -0800 2008</published_at>
  <post_count>10</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>34</id>
    <name>Wine</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>3260109</id>
        <content>I was at a bar the other day for a quick drink before a function and it turned out to be a popular place for Serbians to socialize. They therefore had a wide array of Serbian drink offerings. The house red was, ... I forget. It was quite flavourful and had a distinct green label. It's not rare or expensive, it was just the house red, but it was actually very good and I even asked her what it was but I forget it now, as it was Serbian and I couldn't pronounce it. I can't even remember the name of the bar now so I can't call them.

Perhaps someone knows it? Relatively inexpensive Serbian red wine, a distinct, darkish bankers-green label. 

Thanks in advance if anyone knows what it is. </content>
        <published_at>Fri Jan 04 07:04:39 -0800 2008</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>145676</id>
          <name>50firstdatesguy</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3262244</id>
      <content>The only thing that comes to mind is Rubin Winery which is the largest winery in Serbia.  Their Chardonnay has a dark green label as you describe.  The Cabernet label is red.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 04 16:21:00 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3260109</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14573</id>
        <name>Scott M</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3264269</id>
      <content>Sadly there are only two brands of wine the LCBO lists as being from Serbia and/or Montenegro:

1. NAVIP CABERNET SAUVIGNON 
Serbia And Montenegro | NAVIP 
LCBO 565887 | 750 mL | $ 7.65  
 
2. NAVIP MERLOT DIONIS 
Serbia And Montenegro | NAVIP 
LCBO 168138 | 750 mL | $ 7.65  
 
3. NAVIP MUSCAT OTTONEL 
Serbia And Montenegro | NAVIP 
LCBO 542597 | 750 mL | $ 7.65  
 
4. NAVIP RIESLING FRUSKA GORA 
Serbia And Montenegro | NAVIP 
LCBO 9548 | 750 mL | $ 7.65  
 
5. PALNTAZE MONTE CHEVAL VRANAC 
Serbia And Montenegro | DD PALNTAZE 
LCBO 542498 | 750 mL | $ 8.70  
 
6. PLANTAZE VRANAC PRO CORDE 2005 
Serbia And Montenegro | Dd Palntaze 
VINTAGES 972976 | 750 mL | $ 16.85  
 
On the plus side, they'e all cheap enough that you could try the reds and see if any has a similar style...  The Navip Merlot has a dark blue lable that could technically look dark green in bad lighting...

Good luck!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 05 11:52:26 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3260109</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52117</id>
        <name>morrigan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3270780</id>
      <content>Thanks for the info fellas. It turned out to be this one:

PALNTAZE MONTE CHEVAL VRANAC 
Serbia And Montenegro | DD PALNTAZE 
LCBO 542498 | 750 mL | $ 8.70 

Yes its quite inexpensive but quite flavourful for a wine at that price point. I'd recommend it if you're looking for something cheap &amp; tasty for casual drinking.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 07 14:02:27 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3264269</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145676</id>
        <name>50firstdatesguy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3271958</id>
      <content>LCBO spells it PALNtaze.
Decanter spells it PLANtaze.

Would you please check the spelling to make sure others outside Canada can find it?

And, if you're able, can you describe the wine a bit more? In terms of fruit, or 
another varietal it reminds you of? What make you love it and seek it out?

Thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 07 19:17:38 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3270780</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>18222</id>
        <name>maria lorraine</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3271976</id>
      <content>Plantaze is the way it's spelled on the bottle:).</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 07 19:22:33 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3271958</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52117</id>
        <name>morrigan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3271980</id>
      <content>Sorry - for some reason the picture I found won't load...</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 07 19:23:29 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3271976</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52117</id>
        <name>morrigan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3288088</id>
      <content>It's not a "great" wine, but can be really tasty. I would describe it as a berry/bitter cherry flavour, a definite tannic dimension, herbal/spicy rather than floral nose. I think that it's best aged for a few years, at least three (a bit crunchy and astringent before that), but I've never had one older than about seven years, which was good, but I'm uncertain that it develops beyond that. By then, it was better integrated and smoother. It's a flavour profile that I assocate with better Balkan wines. It's also dirt cheap, so worth the experiment. I like it over an antipasti plate on those hot, humid Toronto summer evenings when cooking is out of the question. 

By way of comparison, this isn't perfect, but think refosco/terlan. 

Hey, 50firstquestions... Where did you have this? I want to test-drive this joint.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 08:53:57 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3271958</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>91415</id>
        <name>hungry_pangolin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3291268</id>
      <content>Thanks for the description, hungry.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 14:05:29 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3288088</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>18222</id>
        <name>maria lorraine</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3292301</id>
      <content>I'm not too versed in wine, i was going to have it again and then try to fire off a description of some kind but its not available at my LCBO. You can get it at the Summerhill location but I haven't made it there recently. 
Anyway, I doubt i could have described it any better than hungry_pangolin just did there. 

I'm fairly sure this is the place:</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 20:30:42 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3288088</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145676</id>
        <name>50firstdatesguy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4308296</id>
      <content>Actually a Montenegrin wine not serbian. Produced by Plantaze dd Podgorica 
ttp://www.plantaze.cg.yu
</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 08 12:45:56 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3260109</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>255375</id>
        <name>Montenegro</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
