475896 Thu Jan 03 15:55:43 -0800 2008 54 31 Home Cooking 0 3258515 I have a recipe that calls for Kraft Old English Cheese. I have never heard of this and chances are I'm not finding this in the cheese section at Zabars. Anyone know what this stuff is and what a decent equivalent might be. Someone at the office made a really tasty cheeseball and this was one of the ingredients listed in the recipe. Thu Jan 03 15:55:43 -0800 2008 40624 vvv03 1 3258565 When I've had to use it I've found it at my local grocery store (Acme) and it actually comes in a small glass jar. I think it's just a processed cheese product. Strangely enough, it's usually next to the deli case with the Velveeta. Although I'm not sure, Velveeta might be an acceptable subsitute. Thu Jan 03 16:12:41 -0800 2008 3258515 68213 cjc519 1 3258566 This is a presliced cheese from kraft - similar to kraft singles but thicker and not individually wrapped. I imagine any other type of processed cheese would work - its probably giving you the right texture since processed cheese will be smoother Thu Jan 03 16:13:12 -0800 2008 3258515 59853 AlaskaChick 2 3258571 Hmm, I've only seen it in a small glass jar as well... Thu Jan 03 16:17:02 -0800 2008 3258566 11259 Becca Porter 2 3259843 No, it's a cheese spread, not sliced. :) Fri Jan 04 04:52:06 -0800 2008 3258566 119275 Morganna 3 3261093 It might also be available as a spread, but I've been buying sliced for years. Fri Jan 04 11:20:04 -0800 2008 3259843 11995 pikawicca 1 3258638 I buy slices of it to wrap around my dog's monthly heart worm pill. It's no longer called Old English, however. I think it's Sharp Cheddar. They call it that, but of course it isn't. My dog likes it, though. Thu Jan 03 16:36:07 -0800 2008 3258515 11995 pikawicca 2 3261230 "I buy slices of it to wrap around my dog's monthly heart worm pill." This is, without a doubt, the best product endorsement I have ever read here. You've sold me. Fri Jan 04 11:50:19 -0800 2008 3258638 12359 monkeyrotica 1 3258648 Here's what the jar looks like: http://www.kraftfoods.com/kf/Products/ProductInfoDisplay.htm?SiteId=1&Product=2100061250 It's a cheese spread, which is what makes cheese balls so creamy smooth. Velveeta is not a good substitute, but your grocery cheese aisle (next to velveeta, block cheddar, american singles, string cheese, etc) should carry some variant of cheese spread, if not the Kraft brand. Thu Jan 03 16:38:26 -0800 2008 3258515 42944 leanneabe 2 3258755 I can picture this in our frig as a kid. In the glass jar. My mother must have been using it for something like cheeseballs back then. She was a whiz at those. Thu Jan 03 17:05:50 -0800 2008 3258648 123744 karykat 2 3259053 I agree. I think I've seen it near velveeta -- just past the real cheese aisle, since this stuff is on unrefrigerated shelves! I know my mom has a recipe that uses it too (yes, in a small glass jar) for a hot crabmeat appetizer. I seem to recall: cheese spread, canned crab, butter and I'm sure something else -- the mixture is then spread on english muffins, baked and served in slices). Hmm haven't thought about that in a while, not very healthy or Chow-worthy, but a memory of party food! Thu Jan 03 18:33:22 -0800 2008 3258648 63260 eamcd 3 3259409 You can search by Zip Code to see where a nearby store is http://www.kraftfoods.com/kf/Products/ProductInfoDisplay.htm?SiteId=1&Product=2100061250 I think my mom still uses a couple of these jars as juice glasses. They had "fancy" cutouts on them. Thu Jan 03 20:45:09 -0800 2008 3259053 24373 Slackerchick 3 3259432 Exactly the recipe I requested from a friend's mom last year.... Crab Muffies is what she called them. I make them all the time as apps and people devour them! Thu Jan 03 20:55:49 -0800 2008 3259053 68213 cjc519 3 3782055 Dear Eamcd, I know that recipe with crab meat and Kraft old english spread and english muffins. I just had it at a party and it went over like gangbusters. It was fabulous and I made it for my son's graduation. Let me know if you have it or I can send. Sun Jun 15 09:59:12 -0700 2008 3259053 200980 ellieirish 1 3259845 You can replace it with any decent cheese spread (I'd recommend it, in fact). I have something from WisPride on my desk even as we speak that would probably be better than the Kraft stuff. :) But you can buy these cheese spreads from a lot of places. They're ubiquitous during the holiday season and places like Hickory Farms, Swiss Colony, Harry and David, a whole lot of places that have 'holiday baskets' make a killing. It is spreadable cheese in a crock or tub. The good ones are made from real cheese. :) Fri Jan 04 04:53:57 -0800 2008 3258515 119275 Morganna 1 3259856 To settle the jar Vs slices question: It apparently comes in both, although I'm not sure if the ingredients are the same and obviously, the consistancy isn't since one is a spread. It's very salty and has a strong "cheesy" flavor. That's probably why it's called for in the cheeseball reicpe. Velveeta is not a good substitution due to it's 'melty-when -heated' consistancy. The Kraft Old English sliced cheese packages (they only come in 8oz packages) are readily available at most large Supermarkets. I just saw it at Wegman's Just look in that section. It's surprisingly expensive. The packaging is similar to it's other packed cheese/cheese food, so it's usually a matter of just reading the labels Fri Jan 04 05:06:40 -0800 2008 3258515 20921 Tay 2 3260309 Ooo weird! Thanks for clearing that up. :) I can't imagine a cheeseball made with a velveety thingie, but to each their own! :) Fri Jan 04 07:56:33 -0800 2008 3259856 119275 Morganna 1 3260106 I made a cheese spread that could easily be made into a ball from a pound of the holiday leftover cheese, quarter cup of white wine, a clove of garlic and some parsley and processed it until creamy. It is delicious. Fri Jan 04 07:03:23 -0800 2008 3258515 12724 eLizard 2 3260125 They also make a pinapple flavor that people put on very very thin ham and toothpick for app. Fri Jan 04 07:10:35 -0800 2008 3260106 11854 LaLa 2 3260131 oh and in some stores it is by the crackers Fri Jan 04 07:11:05 -0800 2008 3260106 11854 LaLa 1 3260408 I would not use a substitute for the Old English Cheese spread, until you taste it. It is not just sharp cheddar cheese, seems to have a kick of something else. I haven't had it in years, but I do have the little glass jars, that are perfect for little hands for juice. There is a Pub Cheese that I have had that is pretty close from what I remember, but I'm not sure the consistency would work. Fri Jan 04 08:20:11 -0800 2008 3258515 80937 danhole 1 3261136 I tried to find this once for a recipe and had trouble as well. I eventually found it in the jar in the dairy section of a supermarket. I do remember checking the ingredients so I could sub it if I ever needed it again. If I remember correctly it is basically velveetta, but with some horseradish, onion powder and garlic powder added in. If anyone has a jar at home maybe they can check and post for you?? Fri Jan 04 11:29:53 -0800 2008 3258515 115445 SweetPea914 2 3261152 Wasn't there also something like this that had pimento in it? Or am I just imagining that? Fri Jan 04 11:33:53 -0800 2008 3261136 123744 karykat 3 3261170 Yes, there is an olive and pimento version Fri Jan 04 11:38:01 -0800 2008 3261152 24373 Slackerchick 3 3261174 My mom loved these Kraft spreads, so we had just about all of them in our fridge when I was a kid. There is pimento, olive & pimento, old english, and a pineapple. Those are the ones I most remember. She used to use the pimento, and the pimento & olive to stuff celery sticks. They really do not have the consistency of Velveeta. It's closer to a cream cheese, but not as creamy. Sort of halfway between the other two items. Fri Jan 04 11:38:59 -0800 2008 3261152 80937 danhole 4 3261211 True, it is a little creamier, maybe more like the spreadable velveeta in a jar? Or is that cheez whiz? I don't buy this stuff very often, so not sure. Pineapple kraft spread? That sounds oddly good, or really disgusting...I can't decide but it has me curious. :-)! Fri Jan 04 11:46:04 -0800 2008 3261174 115445 SweetPea914 5 3261225 You are thinking about Cheez Whiz! That is thicker than the spreads in the jar. You would be surprised how tasty the pineapple spread was, or maybe I was too young to know better! ;-) Fri Jan 04 11:49:25 -0800 2008 3261211 80937 danhole 4 5008384 In responce, although a year later. As a child, I too loved these cheese spreads, like your Mom. Growing up on Long Island, I was able to find this Pasteurized processed Cheese Product in most grocery stores near the Deli meats, cheez wiz and velveeta. But, living presently in New York City I am unable. Which probably is for the best considering I've made more health concious decisions in recent years. The flavors you've mentioned, all but one, I am familiar with. 'The Pimento" I did not know that one existed. However, does anyone remember "Blu Rocu" I'm not sure I'm spelling it correctly, but, this was an additional flavor Kraft offered. It was white in color and had sort of a Cream Cheese flavor with the zest of Blue Cheese. Old English, However, was sharp in taste and kind of reminded me, similarly, to the cheese Kraft would use in their cheese n cracker snacks. Remember, four club crackers with a red stick and a cheese compartment, in a clear plastic miniature package. Sat Sep 05 20:38:33 -0700 2009 3261174 1107169 NostalgicOne 5 5008434 Yikes, that jogs the grey matter! "Roku", I believe it was spelled - a very slight nod to Roquefort, I imagine. I think the 8oz plastic containers of sharp cheddar flavor processed cheese spread sold today - Kaukauna is one, but there are others - is pretty much the same as Old English. They're usually next to the flavored cream cheese tubs. Sat Sep 05 21:01:19 -0700 2009 5008384 159317 greygarious 6 5137918 I was going to say, a month or so I noticed the little jars of Kraft in the cream cheese section at the grocery. That's where they're hiding out. Wed Oct 28 12:27:18 -0700 2009 5008434 11097 coll 5 5138097 I think it was Blu Roka Wed Oct 28 13:18:53 -0700 2009 5008384 109905 laliz 6 5138183 Yes, I think you are right, but also think that it was Roka Blu. Wed Oct 28 13:41:19 -0700 2009 5138097 159317 greygarious 7 5186801 My mom has a recipe for a blue cheese spread made with roka blue, cream cheese and a packet of onion soup mix. Haters - do not even bother trying it - but for the more open minded - it's really good. Must have been a recipe from the 70's because that's where most of my mom's good recipes came from..... Mon Nov 16 15:54:36 -0800 2009 5138183 124908 jeanmarieok 8 5207870 The Roka Blue in a jar has been discontinued. Wed Nov 25 10:42:27 -0800 2009 5186801 11958 wekick 7 5187060 Kraft Roka Blu was also the name for their "bleu" cheese bottled salad dressing, back in the '60s. As a kid, I Ioved it as a dip for apple slices. Mon Nov 16 17:36:02 -0800 2009 5138183 1095104 bushwickgirl 2 5137859 Ok I have a jar of Kraft Old English right here in front of me. Its ingredients are Cheddar chees (Milk, Cheese culture, Salt, Enzymes), Water, Sodium Phosphate, Salt, Lactic Acid,Apocarotenal ( Color). It is a Sharp Pasteurized Process cheese spread. It is a mix between velveta and cheez wiz in consitincy thicker than cheez wiz. Wed Oct 28 12:12:04 -0700 2009 3261136 1119905 crazechik 3 5138820 My family has used Old English for an extremely addictive appetizer for years. Jar of Old English 4 Tbl softened butter 2 Tbl mayo 1 clove of garlic minced can of lump crab dash of cayenne Mix well and spread on mini bagels. Sprinkle with paprika and bake in 350 oven for 10-12 minutes or until the cheese is bubbly. Even for those averse to processed cheese (like me) they are delicious. Wed Oct 28 17:18:26 -0700 2009 5137859 216123 folprivate 1 3463537 Until recently there was both a Kraft Old English Deli Deluxe Cheese (Sharp Cheddar Slices) and also a bottled spread. The spread is still being sold under the name Kraft Old English Sharp Pasteurized Process Cheese Spread, and it comes in a 5-oz. jar. However, the slices have been renamed as: Kraft Deli Deluxe Sharp Cheddar Slices (UPC 21000 60256) and is sold in an 8-oz., 8-slice pack. It's wonderful and I've been eating it since childhood. I use it on sandwiches, cheese toast, crackers, and in my own pimiento cheese spread recipe. Hope this helps. Wed Mar 05 14:21:38 -0800 2008 3258515 172185 MellowRoast 2 3466098 You are correct. I use the 5 oz. jars (3 of them) of the Old English in a soup recipe I have. I hope they never quit making it because I really don't know what I would substitute for it. They have several different flavors too. Thu Mar 06 10:19:46 -0800 2008 3463537 85409 happyhomemaker 3 3525893 I grew up eating the Old English slices and still like them for toasted cheese sandwiches or grilled cheese. Think a sharper, somewhat less fake version of American cheese. Until today, I never knew there was a spread with the same name. Either I just never noticed it on the supermarket shelves or it's not there. I wonder if the difference is regional. I grew up Massachusetts and now live in NY. Tue Mar 25 10:11:16 -0700 2008 3466098 12151 marcia2 4 3526365 The "Crabbie" recipe mentioned below is what I had used Old English Spread for. Growing up in CT I had never used this and didn't know where to look for it. However, I got the recipe from my MIL who lives in Western Mass. I think it's more of a generational item than a regional one. But who knows! Tue Mar 25 12:04:56 -0700 2008 3525893 115445 SweetPea914 2 3802189 Thanks for the tip! One of my favorite recipies has the Old English slices in in and I thought they weren't making them any more! I was crushed! I'll hit HEB this morning and pick some up! Sun Jun 22 09:27:57 -0700 2008 3463537 202977 debbie032 2 4170692 I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR KRAFT "OLD ENGLISH" SLICES SEEMS LIKE FOREVER. I RECENTLTY TALKED WITH A KRAFT REP. IN A SUPER MARKET AND HE HAD NEVER HEARD OF THEM. HE THOUGHT I WAS A LITTLE OFF THE BEAM. HE WENT SO FAR AS TO PULL THE PRODUCT LINE OFF HIS LAPTOP TO SHOW ME THERE WAS NO SUCH THING. I REALLY FELT STUPID. BUT AFTER READING YOUR RESPONCE I THINK I SHOULD WORK FOR KRAFT. THANKS FOR YOUR "I KNOW BETTER" INFORMATION. Thu Nov 13 10:22:03 -0800 2008 3463537 239763 SOYLE 3 5008435 Ms. Soyle, Although a while ago. Don't feel off center, I'm not surprised by individuals working for companies and don't know there stock, it's common 21st. century. But, Old English does exist. The slices were discontinued back in the late seventies/early eighties due to Kraft Slices being more popular. The spreadable version in the glass jar still exists. They did bring back the Old English Cheese, in slices, but changed the name to Deluxe, or Deli Deluxe. I have'nt eaten this stuff in years, but I think the name change a long time ago. Beneath my responce, there is a responce from Saploe that might help further in sloving this mystery. I think some products were sold by popularity in some regions of the Country and virtually unknown in other parts. Old English was the sharp flavored, American Cheese medium flavored and velveeta as mild. I think Saploe is right. I always thought of these as similar cheeses, just different chemicals and colors to change the ellusion of it being a totally different cheese. Hope this helps!! Sat Sep 05 21:01:20 -0700 2009 4170692 1107169 NostalgicOne 4 5186805 You are correct, the Old English slices are in the sliced cheese section, and I think they are called Delux now.... Mon Nov 16 15:56:03 -0800 2009 5008435 124908 jeanmarieok 1 3525833 I have an undated recipe pamphlet from Kraft that I'm guessing is from the 1930s. On the back it shows three boxes of cheese -- "American Pasteurized Process Cheese" listed as medium, "Velveeta Pasteurized Cheese" listed as mild, and a box of "Creamed Old English Cheese" listed as sharp. I'm guessing they all had similar textures just different "sharpnesses." The fine print on the box for the Old English says "Sharp Aged Cheese Pasteurized with Added Cream." Hope that might help. Tue Mar 25 09:59:21 -0700 2008 3258515 177789 Sapeloe 1 3526136 For those of you making "crabbies" or "crab muffies", if you can't find the jar of KOECS, you can make a very thick mornay with sharp cheddar and it will be fine. I did this the first time I made those and couldn't find the jar. Now I know it is in the dairy section of the grocery store. Tue Mar 25 11:04:03 -0700 2008 3258515 20522 gourmanda 1 3944256 Kraft once made a block processed cheese like Velveta and Delux American called "Old English" that came in a red box but I haven't seen it in years.I was looking for it when I came across this posting. Sat Aug 09 22:33:21 -0700 2008 3258515 217288 chipwest 1 4374596 I have been looking for two years for a substitute for Knorr-Swiss packet Newberg Sauce. It has been discontinued. My sister-in-law has an answer. Make a roux ( flour and butter) add cream, sherry, paprika and a jar of Kraft Old English cheese (no cheating). The jar looks like nasty stuff but that is the recipe. This version is at least 80 years old and is a Maine staple. Fri Jan 30 19:43:35 -0800 2009 3258515 261961 ewenmck 1 4375427 My mother used to do an elaborate stuffed celery for holidays -- she'd take a head of celery and carefully separate it so she could put it back together the same way. Then she'd fill each stalk and re-form the celery head. She'd chill it with rubber bands around it to keep it together and then slice it to make these lovely, almost lacy, cross sections. I loved them when I was little! Sat Jan 31 09:17:43 -0800 2009 3258515 42547 mr99203 2 5186786 I have a very similar recipe in my "Woman's Home Companion Cook Book," from the early 40's. It was my mother's cook book. You separate the celery stalks, stuff them with a savory cheese spread, such as pimento, Fit the stalks back together in a cylinder shape, overlapping the stalks by 1/3, like a petal pattern. Chill until very firm. Slice into 1/2 inch rounds to serve. Mon Nov 16 15:50:37 -0800 2009 4375427 1125077 LaraineMae 1 4727946 Kraft Old English = Kraft Deli Select Sharp Cheddar Slices! Sat May 30 11:05:32 -0700 2009 3258515 324305 Lorelai226 2 4732119 Kraft Old English comes in a jar and it is spreadable. There are old english slices but this isn't what the topic is about. Mon Jun 01 07:57:13 -0700 2009 4727946 80937 danhole 1 5008600 I remember this from when I was a kid in the late 50's: it came in a cardboard box, in block form and wrapped in plastic, and was infinitely preferable to and tastier than the regular Kraft American cheese. I didn't know it came in spreadable form, though: I thought that format was limited to Wispride Wine Cheddar, a mainstay of my college years. Then I learned about REAL cheese... Sun Sep 06 00:47:40 -0700 2009 3258515 184509 Miss Rennie 2 5009152 I was going to say, Wispride plain is probably the closest around here (I love the horseradish verson, but that's another story). The only thing I've seen lately of the Old English Cheddar line is the Deluxe Kraft Sharp Cheddar slices. But it's now closer to Velveeta than sharp. I haven't seen the little bottles in years , but then again I haven't looked for it. I remember it with pimientos. Sun Sep 06 10:45:37 -0700 2009 5008600 11097 coll 1 5138115 I've used them all. didn't realize the old english slices were renamed however until I read this. take pepperidge farm thin sliced bread. spread with the pineapple cheese. dust with ground walnuts. cut off crusts and cut into thirds. Outstanding on a tea sandwich tray. Doesn't work to try to make it with cream cheese and pineapple (I've tried) Wed Oct 28 13:25:06 -0700 2009 3258515 109905 laliz