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franchise resturants ex pf changs ,cheescake [moved from Mid-Atlantic board]

plant guy Dec 30, 2007 07:04 PM

hello has anybody have had any good experinces at any of these upscale chain places,over at the freehold mall they just opened up a cheescake factory and a pf changs the cheescake has a one to two hour wait on weekends and had lunch at a cheescake and it was okay never tryed pf changs how do these places do it is it all hype

  1. Suzy Q Jan 2, 2008 04:55 PM

    I think these two examples (Chang's and CF) also benefit greatly from generally being located in/near shopping malls. While neither is haute cuisine, I'd definitely eat either place before getting junk from the food court.

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      Sacto_Damkier Jan 2, 2008 12:42 PM

      PFC and CF are better than the average chain restaurant, but not as good as the best places. The hype is mainly since many people want a nice looking place that serves good food at a low price. People who hate chain restaurants will always hate PFC and CF because of their size and "forcing" local restaurants out of business. I have never had a bad meal at PFC or CF and they are a safe bet when better places are far away or too exotic/expensive for the dining party. Both are not worth more than a 30 min wait.

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      1. re: Sacto_Damkier
        BlueHerons Jan 2, 2008 01:13 PM

        Funny you mention chain restaurants forcing to locals to go out of business.

        There was a wonderful little Italian Restaurant about two miles from my home that did about $20,000 a week in business.

        Along came a great big Coming Soon Carrabbas Italian Grill sign right next door.

        The Carrabbas opened up and now the wonderful little Italian restaurant does about $50,000 per week in revenue. It was the best thing that ever happened to them.

        1. re: BlueHerons
          Sacto_Damkier Jan 2, 2008 04:50 PM

          I have seen some data that would support the Starbucks Hypothesis, where chains actually help local businesses by introducing new people to a cuisine or style. I guess that people feel a chain is safer, like PFC introducing people to Chinese/Asian style food, then move up the culinary ladder - much like graduating from Folgers to Starbucks to Local Barista. I would imagine that a PFC opening in a new suburb may actually increase the number of smaller, more authentic Asian restaurants once the "meat & potatoes" crowd gets over their fear of Kung Pao.

      2. ellen4441 Dec 30, 2007 08:01 PM

        hi, there was a good article in the Hartford, CT (www.courant.com) about the new Cheesecake Factory that opened in West Hartford (2 - 3 hour waits!)..
        the article was titled "where the elite meet to wait".

        There were 95 comments made by posters. (mostly saying that they feel it's overrated, etc).

        Also , there is a real good thread going on right now in the "fast food forum" of roadfood.com. The thread is "well, is it worth the wait!?!?"

        all this should make for some good reading/entertainment for you , plant guy!

        Personally, I think some of the CCF food is real good , (beef ribs, southwestern corncakes) , other stuff is a little lackluster (burgers


        Best part is the architecture (lots of woods), and the well trained servers.

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