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Goat cheese haters?

Hi everyone, first time poster. I was just curious about how many members find goat cheese (or maybe another food) completely, extremely, ridiculously horrible.

I am a big fan of all kinds of food and cheeses. I made a mistake of assuming all cheese is heavenly and I have sampled goat cheese two times in my life. Both times, I was overwhelmed by disgust, if I didn't know better I would swear it is poison - I am not exaggerating! I can't even swallow it and couldn't even explain how I think it tastes because it was like overwhelming bitterness until I spit it out (the aftertaste was almost as horrible, for 5-10 minutes). I found this very very odd, as I said before I am not a picky eater at all. It was so bad, and not a normal "I don't like that food" reaction that I wonder if this happens to anyone else. I have heard about a gene that makes some people feel this way about cilantro (a genetic thing), except they can tell it tastes like soap. I was just curious, thanks for reading!

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  1. I too loathe Goat Cheese...always have and I have even been a cheese buyer for a retail store, I can order it for others but I can't eat it! To me the taste is wicked tinny and metalic and I find it takes forever to rid my palate of it. I eat almost anything so it drives my foodie friends crazy and they even try to slip it in to dishes but I can taste it every time. I indulge them when they insist that I try different ones but I just do not like it.

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    1. re: bubbles4me

      Put me down as another one who hates both cilantro and goat cheese - with a passion. Cilantro tasted like soap, and I don't like goat cheese's sour/tangy taste.

      I do like one sheep's milk cheese - istara.

      1. re: notmartha

        hear hear - goat cheese, cilantro, and ginger

        1. re: Emme

          I about fell out when I read this. I, too, hate goat cheese, cilantro, and ginger. I will add another layer by adding the tastes (not consistencies) of cucumbers and eggplant. I'm a vegetarian so woe:). I really, really hate cilantro, goat cheese, and ginger though:)

          1. re: Julielank

            I could have written above posts. All except I'm not vegetarian.

        2. re: notmartha

          Notmartha, l am afraid our burgeoning relationship has been derailed already, darn

          1. re: Delucacheesemonger

            Oh, Deluca....(waves 1-1/2 packages of GORGEOUS fresh Cabecou I bought from a Perigord cremerie at the Salon last week)

            (only 1-1/2 packages, because the first 1-1/2 packages were warmed lightly in walnut oil before being slipped onto a bed of frisee and sliced fennel, then anointed with a walnut oil vinaigrette)

            1. re: bubbles4me

              I have yet to taste a goat cheese that didn't make me think that I was standing downwind of a wet, dirty goat.

              1. re: cavandre

                Mmmm. This is why some of us are willing to pay a premium price for chevre.

                1. re: cavandre

                  This. I don't dig the barnyard taste, except in very tiny doses in salad, roasted veg, egg, or pizza. (Regarding chevre, other goat cheeses are passable) Funny, I adore sheep cheese.

              2. Are you talking about the fresh cheese, or one of the more mature types?


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                1. re: paulj

                  I've had everything from fresh, to Humboldt Fog to Applewood smoked and it is still a no go for my palate.

                    1. re: pikawicca

                      Yup it is gpoat cheese...it think that is the only milk they use. They do make a sheep's milk one called Lamb Chopper but the rest is goat.

                      1. re: bubbles4me

                        Lamb Chopper is one of my favorites...
                        I love every type of sheeps milk cheese but I can easily say that I detest 85% of the goat cheese I have tasted...hmmm, odd.
                        I have no idea why, just not a fan of the goat.

                2. Better not open my fridge.. I've just been discovering the greatness that is goat yogurt, goat cream, goat milk.. wonderful.

                  1. Thats interesting that you brought up cilantro as a food item that some people may be genetically predisposed to hating. My sister gags every time cilantro/parsley is in food, whether or not she actually tastes it. She only needs to smell it, and says she feels like throwing up. I've doubted her in the past and thought she was being over dramatic, but I've come to believe her that she may actually be allergic to it. Its very unfortunate you get that reaction from goat cheese, because I think its heavenly. In fact, I just discovered goat yogurt and while milder in taste, is also wonderful. I had some for breakfast this morning.

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                    1. re: avena

                      Are you my sister because I, too, gag every time I smell/taste cilantro. I thought I was the only one with such a noxious reaction, but I'm glad to hear others have the same issue. I've never heard anything about it being an actual genetic thing (and I'm a geneticist--although it is a big field), I've always thought it was because I ate cilantro soup twice a day for 6 weeks while in Ecuador and suffered a bad case of food poisoning. I might have to look into that!

                      As for goat cheese, I'm not particularly crazy about it. I find it to be very acidic. I've only had it on crackers or bread. I'm certainly not opposed to it--I keep thinking I'll develop an appreciation for it.

                      1. re: pollymerase

                        I thought I'd heard that the cilantro thing was biologically/probably genetically based, like the PTC test you give kids in intro bio, using the PTC (phenylthiocarbamide?) strips to see who's a taster/nontaster for its bitter taste. I'll have to look it up.

                        PS Also an (anthropological) geneticist here, pollymerase, and I love your handle.

                      2. re: avena

                        That is NOT what an allergy is. She has an intense dislike. If she eats in and then breaks into hives, or goes into anaphylactic shock, then yes she has an allergy.

                        1. re: christy319

                          I have heard that nausea with food items can signal an allergy in many cases.

                      3. My husband feels the same way you do about goat cheese, and no matter how I use it or what kind I use, he just can't stand it. I of course love goat cheese, so I often make goat cheese dishes just for myself or find recipes where I can add the goat cheese for me but not for him.

                        Avena: I learned from a chef friend recently that the reaction some people have to cilantro is actually caused by an enzyme that something like 25% of our population has. My mom is one of those people and she can't even smell a dish that has cilantro in it without being repulsed. She says it tastes like dirty socks.

                        1. Thank you so much for posting this - I thought we were alone in this. Hubby and I can't stand goat cheese either and find the stuff is everywhere - the latest and greatest ingredient of the decade. I've tried all kinds - a lot by accident because I believe in try anything more than once - but still can't eat it.

                          1. If I were to describe the taste of goat cheese it would be...like what the beard of the billy goat smells of since he has been "spraying" it. Totally digusting and gamey. I used to enjoy some kinds now I can enjoy none.

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                            1. re: elgordoboy

                              Gamy is a perfect description elgordoboy. I have the same reaction to both goat and sheep cheese. I can't get past the smell. I raised sheep for 14 years and was amazed the first time I smelled sheep milk cheese how strong it was and how it reminded me of the smell of the butcher shop at slaughter time. Not my favorite smell at all. Glad that others can enjoy it though. I'm ruined forever.

                              1. re: elgordoboy

                                funny that you say that, as i used to compare fresh goat cheese to goat-after-sex-funk....i've grown into liking it, but it took a lot of time

                                1. re: elgordoboy

                                  Yes! I've always compared the smell of goat cheese to the smell of goats. One whiff and I'm transported back to a farm on an incredibly hot day. Ick! Goats are stinky animals.

                                  I can't stand goat cheese.

                                  1. re: Blush

                                    I can understand why you say that. The first time I was offered some goat cheese, it took me right back to when I was a kid growing up in Oregon. Our family lived on 4 acres, not really a farm but we called it that. Our neighbors had goats and rabbits and I would play with the neighbor girl. I had some good meals at their house, and when they offered me goat cheese and goat milk, I just couldn't get it down. I do remember the smell, and it was very very rank. The mom would have fresh bread and they'd smear it on the warm bread...
                                    Okay fast forward to 2010. I love goat cheese, in fact I can't get enough if its out at a party. Go figure.

                                2. Hate is such a strong word...
                                  But honestly, this is goat cheese we're talking about. My husband and son are big cheese eaters, sometimes the smellier the better (the cheese, not the boys), so there is always something ripe in the fridge. But not for me. I don't even like the tame stuff. Yuck.

                                  And funny you should mention cilantro. That may be the one other food that I really dislike as much. I think my distaste came from an unfortunate salsa making experience about fifteen years ago. I used my little Cuisinart chopper, opened the top, and just about fainted. Haven't touched the stuff since.

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                                  1. re: bards4

                                    Is feta cheese made from goat or sheep's milk? I find a little bit of feta goes a long, long, LONG way.

                                    Same with cilantro. I can handle a sprinkle of it on a curry or salsa as a garnish, but anything more than that and it's as if I am eating a bowl of pot pourri. I mean I literally feel as if I am eating soap or perfume. Horrible. As for the genetics theory, I have a brother who just loves the stuff and can eat a bowl of what is essentially cilantro salsa. I'm not scientific. I have no idea how that works.

                                    1. re: MysticYoYo

                                      You may add me to the growing list of goat cheese avoiders. I often perceive that many people eat what the critics tell them is good, and are afraid to admit that a certain item is really objectionable. I see goat cheese in this category

                                      1. re: sarge

                                        I loved eating goat cheese before I even knew what it was made of. And I certainly didn't try it after it became a fad! At the time, the only person I knew who ate goat cheese was my high school French teacher (she brought some to class for everyone to try.) I would like it regardless of its popularity. But I can see how some might use it to boast now that it is trendy. I never knew the stuff was so polarizing. It seems like you either love it or hate it.

                                        1. re: sarge

                                          I love this thread. The Emperor is naked, and goat cheese is disgusting. Count me in.

                                        2. re: MysticYoYo

                                          The more traditional feta is made from goat or sheep milk, but if it isn't specially labeled as such, it probably has been made from cows milk, especially if made in the US. The Wiki article mentions a battle in Europe regarding the naming of the Danish version made from cows milk.

                                        3. re: bards4

                                          My mother cannot stomach cilantro either; says it tastes like soap. I feel so badly for her because cilantro is one of my favourite things in the world to eat. But I understand because there is one thing, and it's not a food but a drink, that I have a strange reaction to 75% of the time:

                                          When I'm drinking certain bottles of Sauvignon Blanc, I taste soap. At first, I thought the restaurant I was at didn't rinse their glasses properly but it has happened at least a dozen times since. The people I share a glass with never taste it, but it is so distinct I usually can't take any more than a couple sips.

                                        4. How truly surprising this all is. As someone that absolutely loves goat cheese it honestly never occured to me that there would be anyone that did not like it.

                                          Well thank you for the post and opening my eyes. I really felt it was akin to cream chesse....subtle enough that everyone enjoyed it.

                                          The cilantro reactions I have heard ofas I have a good friend that cannot I have to make a separate pot of salsa for. He says it makes him physically ill.

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                                          1. re: britnlind

                                            <<Well thank you for the post and opening my eyes. I really felt it was akin to cream chesse....subtle enough that everyone enjoyed it.>>

                                            BritnLind, this might surprise you even more, but some people hate cream cheese too. I dislike goat cheese but can eat a tiny bit of it if necessary out of politeness, but cream cheese in any way, shape, or form makes me immediately sick to my stomach. I can't even smell it without vomiting.

                                            Cilantro, on the other hand, is perfectly tasty to me.

                                          2. OK, I love goat cheese and cilantro, but hate anything that has been strrongly colored with red dye (think frosting, red hots, cherry-flavored snow cones)... it has a nasty metallic taste to me (and most everyone else can't taste it at all).

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                                            1. re: firecooked

                                              I taste it! Love the goat cheese, don't mind the cilantro, hate the red food dye! Did you know its made from insects? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochineal

                                              1. re: avena

                                                I can't stand goat cheese either....tastes like old dirty socks to me. I do like feta cheese however and notice a big difference between feta and other goat cheeses. Nigella's Feta/Watermelon Salad is one of my all time favorite things to eat on a hot summer day. Go figure.

                                                1. re: meagan

                                                  "I can't stand goat cheese either....tastes like old dirty socks to me."

                                                  Thank you! My very first taste of goat cheese made me think 'old, sweaty gym socks' and I've never been able to understand the allure.

                                            2. Both goat and sheep's milk cheeses smell and taste like vomit to me. I can handle sheep's milk cheeses when cooked, sometimes. I also can detect the flavors of fat in foods that a lot of other people don't notice; sometimes even butter makes me gag, cultured butter in particular.

                                              I used to loathe cilantro, in part because people who like it tend to overuse it and it really will overwhelm many other flavors in a dish. I've found that there are some perfect applications for it: with beans, in pho, things like that, where it combines with the other ingredients to make everything taste better.

                                              1. The first goat cheese I tried was almost the last: a girl I shared a lot of meals with once handed me a chunk of a chewy brownish substance and said, "You've got to try this goat cheese - it's my favorite thing in the world!" I took a small nibble, and spent the rest of the week trying to get the taste out of my mouth. It really did taste like a well-aged goat carcass. Many years later I was finally emboldened to try a bit of fresh chevre, and was delighted that I really liked it. My wife, however, doesn't love it but tolerates it, while our French sister-in-law loathes it.

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                                                1. re: Will Owen

                                                  That is why I keep wondering which of these comments refer to fresh chevre, and which to well aged ones. To me chevre is distinct from cow's milk cheese because of its acidity, not its smell.

                                                  I wonder if the dislike of goat cheese extends to dulce de leche made with goats milk. While the usual home made stuff uses sweetened condensed milk, the preferred Mexican version uses goats milk (because it is naturally sweeter, I believe).

                                                  I just remembered there's another distinct type of goat cheese, Norwegian Geitost. Actually it is more of a caramelized goat milk whey. I wonder what 'goat cheese haters' think of that.


                                                  1. re: paulj

                                                    I sell Gjetost in my cheese shop,
                                                    and I've tried that little experiment with goat-hating customers.
                                                    Nope, didn't work. And the Gjetost we sell here is a blend of cow & goat milks.

                                                    But, I have had some success getting a few brave folks to try a few milder goat cheeses,
                                                    and actually purchase them. Much to the amazement of their family.

                                                    1. re: paulj

                                                      What you are referring to as dulce de leche is actually cajeta and tastes exactly like goats cheese to me. It is every bit as disgusting as the cheese is. On the other hand, dulce de leche is very sweet but much more pleasant tasting than cajeta.

                                                      1. re: operagirl

                                                        That's exactly what it was. I remember the label (besides saying "Gjetost") had a picture of a happy smiling little blonde girl, just like the one who fed it to me. I guess it wouldn't sell so well with a graphic of a skinny hippie dude looking like he was gonna hurl...

                                                        I think I can understand a lot of peoples' aversion to both goat cheese, even the mildest kinds, and cilantro, because my taster is tuned to sort of hate those flavors, too, but only enough to make them interesting. Odd how these things work.

                                                    2. I tried some various cheese at a farmer's market, The Houston Dairymaids search Texas for good local homemade cheese, and they were offering little bites. I like every one of the except the goat cheese. Maybe it is better on a cracker or bread, but it didn't taste "right" to me. Give me a good gruyere, or a blue cheese, but I think I'll pass on the goat.

                                                      Not crazy about cilantro either. A small amount is okay, but there is a fine line between okay and gagging.

                                                      1. Although I adore goat cheese, I feel your pain, because blue cheese absolutely makes me want to spit. I can't get my head around the fact that people willingly ingest the stuff. It's GONE BAD, people!!! ;-)

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                                                        1. re: danna

                                                          Only if you consider mold to be necessarily "bad." That's like saying anything decayed, fermented, or infected with a fungus is "bad," though this would eliminate ripe persimmons and properly aged meat, sauerkraut and hard cider, and huitlacoche. So if anyone gives you any Roquefort or Maytag blue, let me give you an address where you can send it... ;-)

                                                          1. re: Will Owen

                                                            Yes, thanks for pointing out what I try to ignore ;-) I suppose certain things like wine or even bread are starting to grow little beasties. Nonetheless, my mouth reacts to blue very similarly to it's "bad scallop" reaction.

                                                            btw, the hippie-gonna-hurl line is expected to be today's winner.

                                                            1. re: danna

                                                              wine, bread, and cheese can't even exist without a healthy population of little beasties....

                                                          2. Goat cheese is definitely "gamey", and those who recoil from it can return to the comfort of cow cheese, but at least you gave it a C'hound try. But I hope you will have at least one positive take-away, in that it offers goats an alternate way of earning their keep. And from their perspective, preferable to being splayed and roasted over mesquite. I like both.

                                                            1. I'm also not a fan of goat cheese. I love pretty much every other kind of cheese, from strong blues to sheep's milk but I just can't get past the 'gamey' after taste of chevre. I have tried to learn to like it and always take a taste when we have a cheese plate but it does not seem to be growing on me. It was especially unfortunate when we were in Provence, with the abundance of beautiful looking chevre following each meal and at the markets.

                                                              1. OMG, goat cheese.
                                                                Different variations, and I can't say I like any of them very well.
                                                                Some are salty, some not so much, but yes they do have a very distinctive taste and texture different from cow's milk cheeses.
                                                                Overall I tolerate them, but would not buy them for myself or make them (nor can I stand the thought of milking goats, seen it done many times and milked a few times, and it's always a little uncomfortable, much better to milk a cow, easier I think in my own opinion, if anyone has ever milked both)
                                                                At any rate goat's cheese is a little more refined than cow's cheese, and yes I hate to admit but it does go better with some dishes and salads, but I much prefer a bland fresh cow milk cheese than goats cheese anyday. Yes sour and tangy would be accurate for those bloggers commenting. I also can't help but be reminded of that goat smell whenever I bite into the cheese, as it is a little pungent sometimes and can still smell the animal-"gamey"(fresh or aged).

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                                                                1. re: b0ardkn0t

                                                                  OMG. I cannot tolerate goat cheese. Had some on a pizza one time-yuk!! All I could smell was goat. I am not a connoisseur by any means, but if someone out there is, can you please tell me the difference between goat cheese and feta? I really like feta cheese and I know it's made from goat's milk. I am confused.

                                                                  1. re: mollypeds1

                                                                    Feta isn't always made from goat's milk. Sometimes it's sheeps milk, cow's milk, or a mixture.

                                                                2. I loved goat cheese from the get-go. However, I've met enough people who hate it that I wouldn't serve it at dinner parties if I didn't know the guests' preferences.

                                                                  1. Oh HAPPY day... at last I found validation for my non-pathalogical fear and loathing of goat cheese (really, anything edible related to goat). I feel like an alcoholic that just discovered AA.... "Hello, my name is Tim and I'm a goat product hater."
                                                                    Like other's have said, to me goat and lamb taste to me like they smell on the farm. My wife just handed me a cracker with cheese on it - not realizing it was goat cheese - I chewed and then... *GADZUKS*... that goat funk hit my sinuses and i began bouncing in my pneumatic desk chair desperately searching for something to put in my mouth to make it go away.
                                                                    It is the ONLY thing i react to like this and I'm also someone who dislikes people who won't try new foods. I'm an american who's lived the last 13 years in Mexico and Argentina, so i'm willing to try new things (okay, now I'm defending my "goat cheese hating" again.... i think this support group isn't enough. I need a shrink!

                                                                    1. Glad to see I am not alone! I despise most cheeses goat cheese being #1 on my list. I gag when I see the foodnetwork using it all the time. I know most peeps love it just not me.

                                                                      1. I thought I was going nuts until I found this post.
                                                                        I'll never forget the moment I tried goat cheese. It was in 2006, and the taste of it haunts me to this day.
                                                                        My husband and I were in Paris enjoying the local bounty. I threw caution to the wind, and ordered it without knowing anything about it other than it was cheese. How could cheese be bad? I even like Roquefort. What could possibly go wrong?
                                                                        I should have taken the visual hint our waiter tried to give me. The look was, "Are you suure? This should be interesting". I took it to be a challenge. One I would regret for years... I took the first bite. Okay, it tasted a bit gamey, but nothing I couldn't slog through if nothing more than to show our waiter I had a sophisticated palate.
                                                                        Then it hit me. The rancid aftertaste. It tasted like death, if you could possibly capture the taste of that.
                                                                        I looked around the room, and another table of obvious foreigners had it on their table. I watched their reaction when they ate it. One of them spit it out in disgust.
                                                                        If this had come with a warning label (which it did, really, ion the form of the waiter) I would have still tried it, knowing me.
                                                                        But there is something otherworldly about this cheese. I can't see how anyone could enjoy it. Maybe it is a genetic aversion?

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                                                                        1. re: amybedow

                                                                          I think it might be some sort of genetic thing - for those of us who dislike goat cheese it tastes different or something. My experiences have been exactly like yours: the gamey first taste, that 'rancid' aftertaste that hits you after you swallow it... I couldn't understand how no one else could taste what I was tasting. I also like Roquefort, very aged cheeses, etc. but I cannot get past goat cheese! It's so sad because I WANT to like it but it has yet to grow on me.

                                                                          1. re: amybedow

                                                                            Very similar experience here - tasted it for the first time at a food and wine show - when the aftertaste of death arrived, couldn't get to a napkin to spit it into fast enough, but the lovely lady providing the sample of cheese just wanted to keep talking about how lovely her cheese was! Lots of "mmm-ing" and nodding (all while trying to stop the cheese from getting anywhere near my taste buds!) was required until a graceful escape, a handy napkin and a nearby bin could release me!

                                                                          2. It took me a while to like goat cheese. When I first tried it, I thought it was the most disgusting cheese I'd ever tasted. That happened one or two more times, so I avoided it for a few years. When I decided to try it again, I didn't mind it at all. I think my main problem with it even today is that it seems to be a bit saltier than other cheeses and I tend to be sensitive to salt. I don't think it's really something I would want to have alone, but as part of a larger dish, I think it is fine.

                                                                            1. When I lived in Tarija, (southern) Bolivia, in the 70s there was nothing better than the goat's milk cheese from the nearby higher areas in the Andes, the local rustic bread, and the red wines from Arce or Kohlberg. Sooooo good.

                                                                              1. I was severely allergic to cow's milk as a small child (yes, hives, vomiting, hospital everything) and still have a degree of intolerance to it. I can digest goat's and ewe's cheese with no problem, though they do contain some lactose. Smaller globules? I dunno. But I can eat it, and am very happy to.

                                                                                Please, if you don't like it, that is fine, but don't do anything to take it off the menu for those of us who can eat no other cheese.

                                                                                1. I like goat's and sheep's milk cheeses. Fresh, aged, feta, you name it, no problem. Yes, it has a gamy sort of taste, but I like that.

                                                                                  Now, gamy meats are another story. Aside from duck and (in limited preparations) lamb, I can't stand them.

                                                                                  I do like cilantro, usually in salsa or Thai food.

                                                                                  Am I the only one who finds very hot chili peppers to have an underlying bitterness?

                                                                                  1. I love strong cheeses but goat cheese is nasty. It tastes like musty sox smell. I've hated it ever since it started showing up on every blessed thing in the world...sometime in the early '80s. The first time I tasted it I thought I was going to retch. I really hate it when somebody hides it an otherwise acceptable dish and I bite into it. YUCK.

                                                                                    1. I don't hate it, but if it's too strong, I do find it off-putting. Real Greek feta is 70% sheep's milk and 30% goat's milk, and I love it. There have been some 100% goat's milk cheeses which I have enjoyed, but it seems to be situational. Food pairing makes a difference for me. Often, strong sweet pear and roasted walnuts match up nicely. That said, I saw an episode of Gordon Ramsey's "Last Restaurant Standing" last night in which a chef made a cheesecake from goat's cheese. I thought that there was almost no way that it would taste better than a cheesecake made with cow's milk, so why bother? It was an interesting idea, though.

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                                                                                      1. re: madgreek

                                                                                        What the hell was I smoking this morning? Not Gordon Ramsay. Raymond Blanc.

                                                                                      2. I have tried so hard to like goat cheese and goat meat, but no matter how I have it, it all tastes musty, like an old closet full of socks. I've tried both from several different restaurants and shops, always the same reaction.

                                                                                        I accidentally offended the owner of a lovely cheese shop by telling her this, she swore I wouldn't be able to tell which of her cheeses were goat when she gave me some samples, but I picked it out right away.

                                                                                        1. We raised goats growing up, but never took much care about what they ate or how the milk was handled - they were just a 4-H project and weed-eater, basically.

                                                                                          But Mom, being adventurous, would try to serve us goat milk and made goat cheese. Now that was some pretty foul stuff.

                                                                                          As an adult, the goat cheese I've had has had none of that gamey flavor or smell. One of my favorite lunches in France was Chevre Chaude Salad. The chevre on those looked more like brie to me.

                                                                                          I haven't tried goat milk again since that first experience.

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                                                                                          1. re: tracylee

                                                                                            We used to drink goat milk at my aunt's place. I don't recall what they ate, but as it was at a hunting/fishing camp, I can't imagine they would be allowed to wander too far. I loved it and I was fairly picky. Never noticed anything gamey about goat cheese.

                                                                                          2. I also find the taste of goat cheese (and goat milk) revolting. I'm relieved I'm not the only one.

                                                                                            1. I have yet to try one that I don' t spit out of my mouth after one bite. What's worse is that chefs are sneaking it into all sorts of things. Latest one was an upscale place that had the chef's special mac & 4 cheeses, one on which was goat. I've learned to ask before ordering.

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                                                                                              1. re: cavandre

                                                                                                "...What's worse is that chefs are sneaking it into all sorts of things...."
                                                                                                And they're all PROUD of it! I was starving one evening after going all day without eating and ducked into an upscale italian place and paid way too much for a small pizza that the waitress said was out of this world wonderful, her favorite pizza that they did.
                                                                                                ONE BITE and I wanted to gag. GOAT CHEESE. NASTY NASTY NASTY -- and nowhere did it SAY goat cheese in the description.
                                                                                                I paid the bill and left still starving. Will never go back.

                                                                                                That's bad enough but what really infuriates me is when "friends" try to sneak it into food because they're just so sure I've never had "good" goat cheese. I am very adventuresome with food and find it really obnoxious that people who know that would try to sneak it to me like I'm some guinea pig. So condescending.

                                                                                                1. re: Emileelee

                                                                                                  I'd have sent it back if I were in your shoes -- they neglected their duty by not telling you.

                                                                                                  I LOVE goat cheese, but sometimes the chefs just get carried away with putting GOAT CHEESE in something, and it's not always paired very well...and it's not right for them to just slide in an ingredient that is still fairly non-mainstream without telling you it's there.

                                                                                                  1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                    It's interesting to read in here that I am not the only person who really HATES goat cheese, but it's also interesting to read people talking about flavors I love that they can't stand. (Like ginger, how do you dislike that?!)

                                                                                                    I wonder if it never occurred to them that some people don't like it. They seemed so proud of it. But I was like -- who put moldy soap on my pizza?

                                                                                              2. You know the thread "Food that makes you sad"? This thread makes me sad. So many of my favorite foods are listed here as being vile-tasting for one reason or another, I wish you could taste them the way those of us who love them taste them.

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                                                                                                1. re: EWSflash

                                                                                                  So do I! I don't react as violently as others on this thread, but I really dislike goat cheese, even mild chevre - the only exception I've found is a really lovely goat feta my sister brought me from Vermont last summer. Never tasted goat meat, but I do love lamb, and adore a good pecorino romano. Cilantro's fine in moderation if someone else is cooking, but I usually leave it out myself. But I do wish I could taste chevre, cilantro, bell peppers, etc the way people who love them do - I'd much rather enjoy them than not!

                                                                                                2. I finally gave goat cheese a try.. and I agree it tastes so gamey... i had to mask it with dill to swallow. But the thing is, I love goat meat. Actually, good young goat (before they're old enough to spray) has none of that gamey-ness... it tastes sweet and is tender like veal.
                                                                                                  And I agree on cilantro... I don't gag, but I do get put off. I've found that mixing it into a hot dish and letting it cook a tad helps.

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                                                                                                  1. re: ashkha

                                                                                                    LOL ashkha! Dill is one of the two herbs that nearly makes me barf, like the others here with cilantro. I can handle it in pickles, but if you put it on salmon, you may as well have just run over that precious fillet with your car several times on a still-warm new asphalt driveway.

                                                                                                    The other is epazote- if anything it tastes even worse to me than dill. I bought some one year and it self-seeded like you wouldn't believe, and ten years later it still comes up in some of the potted plants. Gives me the willies to pull it out due to the smell.

                                                                                                  2. Goat cheese is something that takes time to appreciate. If it's the sourness and acidity you don't like, that probably won't go away. But if it's the gamy taste you don't like, that might improve if you keep trying different kinds. When I was a kid, I hated it. I accidentally tasted a free sample of it in Costco and wanted to spit it out. It was like sniffing a goat! Years later, I tasted goat cheese again at a party and loved it. Now it's one of my favorite things.

                                                                                                    1. There is a woman around these parts that raises her own goats and makes fresh goat cheese that she sells at the farmers market, and also at Earthfare. Its delicious and so completely different than anything you'd find at the grocery store, even the higher end ones.

                                                                                                      In addition to goat cheese, she makes these goat cheese chocolate truffles that are so flippin' good they'd make you slap yo mama! But at $8/6 truffles, I don't indulge all that often.

                                                                                                      1. Having sold cheese for a number of years, I do find that people who grew up around goats, raising goats, tend to not like the goat milk cheeses. ( I grew up around pigs and just love bacon!)

                                                                                                        But truth be told, 11 years ago I didn't eat cheese at all.
                                                                                                        I disliked any cheese, even ordered pizza without cheese, just sauce & meat.
                                                                                                        Then I discovered good cheese, and my eyes, and palate, were opened.
                                                                                                        Now I run my own cheese shop, after spending a few years working for others.
                                                                                                        Keeping trying new cheeses, some day you may fall in love!

                                                                                                        1. My brother cannot even smell or eat goat cheese bc he thinks it smells and tastes like a goat. He pictures the scene from Jurassic Park when the T-Rex eats the goat then tosses the leg on the car. He has trouble with lamb too!
                                                                                                          Throw some goat cheese on top of rack of lamb for me and I am golden.

                                                                                                          1. raising hand. No goat cheese, or cilantro, or ginger, or goat, or feta here.
                                                                                                            thank you for this thread

                                                                                                            I do like pecorino romano, and ricotta salata (just a little please)

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                                                                                                            1. re: laliz

                                                                                                              I adore cilantro and fresh ginger, feta, too. Will inhale any kind of bleu/blue cheese invented but NOTHING made from goat milk. The taste reminds me of mothballs. I will spit it out if I detect it in my mouth.

                                                                                                            2. Today's NY Times piece on people who hate cilantro http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/din... (there's even a blog and Facebook page for them) led me to search on "I hate goat cheese," which led me to this site. I never thought I'd meet a cheese I didn't love, but just one bite of any goat cheese -- cheap or expensive -- nauseates me. It makes me think of something dead and rotting and musty. It was absolute food hell once when I was forced out of politeness to eat a main-dish salad tossed with crumbles of the stuff at a friend's home. For me, goat cheese ranks as a runner-up to coconut on my food-hate list.

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                                                                                                              1. re: Curmudgea

                                                                                                                I feel vindicated that even Julia Child hated cilantro (though I do passionately love arugula). I can taste specks of fresh cilantro even when well-hidden by not-so-well-meaning cooks.

                                                                                                                I also can't eat goat dairy products of any kind, including goat butter, cheese, yogurt, etc. Enthusiastic goat cheesemongers at our local markets and locavore restos continually try to convince me, "trust me, you'll like MY goat cheese" but my taste buds rebel. I have no problems with sheep dairy products.

                                                                                                                1. re: Curmudgea

                                                                                                                  The rest of my family loves goat cheese. I think it tastes unbearably musty and the smell reminds me of something mildew-y that desperately needs to be cleaned out. However, I do like goat meat, especially when prepared as a Jamaican goat curry, and I really like goats as live animals.

                                                                                                                2. I used to like goat cheese. Then one time at a dinner a friend told me to smell the goat cheese and said "Doesn't this smell and taste like a wet goat?". I have never tasted a wet goat but it did smell like one. I have not had any since.

                                                                                                                  1. I've never liked it and I do love cheese. I won't eat anything with goat cheese in it. Loathe the taste and don't like the mouth feel; I always want to wipe my tongue with paper towel after eating it.

                                                                                                                    1. I'm another one who don't like goat cheese and I'm a cheese lover. I adore feta though. When I read the threads and see people post they made such & such with goat cheese, I think, yuck! (lol) Oh, and I like cilantro a lot...

                                                                                                                      1. Add me to the list of Goat Cheese Haters. I've tried many different types, and hated them ALL. I don't care how young and fresh and mild it supposedly is, it's never mild enough for me (and I like stinky cow and sheep cheeses - Tallegio, Epoisses, etc ... bring 'em on). They all taste like a$$ to me, like sweaty, barnyard-y, animalic, butt. It drives foodie friends and French people crazy, but oh well.

                                                                                                                        I've also tried goat's milk + goat meat, and hated them both as well. Goat is just NOT for me in any form.

                                                                                                                        1. Throw me in the goat pen too, cause it makes me about throw up to smell it! It seems to be the "in" cheese now...it's everywhere, but like somebody else said, I don't think folks "love" it like they say they do... they just want to be eat'n the "in" cheese. I was recently hanging out at a farmers' market and a goat cheese fellow was there... I was telling him of my utter disdain... he even "made" me try his goat milk ice cream.... NASTY! And sacreligious for what that did to the chocolate in it! LOL He FINALLY said... "OK, you're obviously what I call one of my
                                                                                                                          5%ers." HUH? Turns out, according to him, 5% of us have taste buds that have this reaction to the cascine in goat milk/cheese and is a LEGIT "reason."!!! OMG... I'm not the crazy one... folks look at you like you're from Mars when you say you don't like (LOVE) goat cheese! So to my fellow GGHers... we have validation that this is REAL... so in this case, it's OK to be a hater! :)

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                                                                                                                          1. re: auntdeedee

                                                                                                                            I commiserate with you all! I kept thinking the source milk wasn't clean enough, but even when I tried one I liked the taste, 10 minutes later I was belching what can only politely be described as "goat pasture". Same with my mom. And yes, I hate cilantro. I'm sticking with cow and sheep!

                                                                                                                          2. I actually enjoy goat cheese...but despise the smell/taste/look/feel/everything when it comes to bleu cheese. Odd but yes. I was a bit afraid to try goat cheese at first and honestly the first two times I tried it, I wasnt fond. But, it grew on me. I think the best way to have it is with Italian food...either on top of grilled chicken with lemon butter, sundried tomatoes & basil. Also great in small does on a quattro formaggi (four cheese) pizza or it is absolutely devine served soft, a few "dollops" with meatballs, a nice homemade pomodoro sauce and some crispy garlic bread. YUM! :)

                                                                                                                            1. I have always liked goat cheese, but have never gotten too crazy in love with it.
                                                                                                                              A friend of mine in northern California has a herd of goats, and makes goat cheese, selling it at the local Saturday market as "pet food" in order to stay clean with the authorities.
                                                                                                                              He once spent a lot of time making a very hard goat cheese very much like a full-on Parmesan. That was one terrific cheese and eclipsed some of the best Parmesan I have ever had. A little goes a long way on all sorts of raw and lightly cooked vegetables.
                                                                                                                              I think he is working hard now on getting licensed as a cheese producer, and on perfecting this lovely hard goat cheese.
                                                                                                                              Goat cheese is surprising some times.

                                                                                                                              1. I LOATHE goat cheese! Since so many gourmet people on here were touting it, I sent my man out there to get some chevre. I nearly gagged when I tried it. The texture is beautiful, but the cheese...well...It is pure barnyard flavor! Everyone else is being so nice and using flavor descriptions, but admit it people, it tastes a LOT like the smell of a goat. If you have never been around animals in a barnyard setting, then you might like it, I suppose. But to me, it is pure awfulness! I think I am one of those people who base their taste on their sense of smell or something...does that make sense? I guess I cook and eat by smell...and goats just dont smell good to me.

                                                                                                                                Cilantro is fine, in moderation...cooked in and hidden in foods is fine.

                                                                                                                                1. I am so happy to find this thread I actually googled "goat cheese is nasty" 'cause I am SO SICK of sanctimonious friends "patiently" telling me "well, there are a lot of different kinds of goat cheese."

                                                                                                                                  YES. I KNOW. I've tasted them and they all have ONE THING in commong: NASTY. someone said "rank" and that's the word that comes to mind for me.
                                                                                                                                  And for the record, I love feta and I love blue cheese -- heck I even love pickled pigs feet -- I'm a very adventuresome eater. But goat cheese does NOT TASTE GOOD anyway you slice it, or spread it, or try to disguise it.
                                                                                                                                  My reaction to goat chees is similar to my initial reaction to Rap music. When I first heard rap music it was so irritating to me that I was convinced (for a couple years) that no one REALLY liked it and people just PRETENDED to like it to be "cool" or because everyone around them was PRETENDING to like it. That's what I think when I taste goat cheese -- people can't REALLY like this. Can they? And yet some seem to.

                                                                                                                                  Interesting about cilantro. I used to HATE it -- I would not compare it to soap but it overpowered all other flavors and just ruined whatever dish it was in, IMO. Now I am at a point where I actually like a LITTLE bit of it in guacamole. But just a hint.

                                                                                                                                  WELL THANK YOU For vindicatng me on my LOATHING or that NASTY substance that is GOAT cheese. Too bad it's supposedly healthy. Oh well.

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                                                                                                                                  1. re: Emileelee

                                                                                                                                    I have found goat cheese to be disgusting but to my surprise I had it recently in a salad at a local restaurant and enjoyed it.....it was not strong and pungent as I have experienced goat cheese in the past

                                                                                                                                    1. re: foufou

                                                                                                                                      Well, I did read something about how milk goats are raised, and it seems that they have some unusual mineral needs...they need unusual amounts of stuff like cobalt and another one I dont remember. Anyway, apparently when they dont have the correct minerals, the milk they give is stinkier and more goaty. Also there were some recommendations that the does be kept away from the buck in order to make their milk better. I dont know why that is, other than the fact that the male goat musk can kinda get on the female and into the milk? Male goats stink. Simple as that. I would try a different kind of goat cheese as long as there are beverages and other non-disgusting foods available to erase the potential skanky aftertaste from my mouth.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: nyxpooka

                                                                                                                                        thanks,I am now open to trying different kinds of goat cheese now that I know that there are variation is taste

                                                                                                                                    2. re: Emileelee

                                                                                                                                      Fresh goat cheese is very strong in taste and flavor. The more you age the cheese, the milder the distinctive "goat" taste gets. Unfortunately, most people think the soft spreadable cherve wen they think of goat cheese. But when you make aged varieties, different rennet are used and the distinctive flavor disappears and all that is left is a cheese that is sweet tasting and stinky at all. Unfortunately, in the US there is not a large variety of aged goat cheeses. They, as well as aged pecorino have not yet caught on. Hopefully soon....
                                                                                                                                      Goat yogurt and milk are very strong and I even have a hard time eating/ drinking them and I make and sell sheep's and goat milk cheeses :)
                                                                                                                                      BTW- sheep's milk is totally different and can't be compared to goat milk. It is actually considered to be healthier that goat milk.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: ewa95


                                                                                                                                        My husband, who VOWED he'd never eat stinky goat cheese, now actually asks me to buy some of the lovely, aged goat cheeses.

                                                                                                                                        And sheep's milk cheese is very mild, and I agree -- can't be included.

                                                                                                                                        (glad to hear you don't care for goat or sheep yogurt -- I tried it once and decided that was enough)

                                                                                                                                        1. re: ewa95

                                                                                                                                          The reasons that young goat cheeses predominate in the US largely boil down to economics. Many new cheesemakers prefer to start out with goats or already have a goat dairy for milk and branch out into cheese. Cows are a bigger deal, requiring more land for grazing and more food during the fallow months, etc. When a cheesemaker is starting out there are a lot of up front expenses (besides purchasing the animals), such as building the cheesemaking facility, buying equipment, buying supplies and paying for licenses, permits and inspections. With so much invested, many cheesemakers look to the immediate cash flow available from selling fresh and minimally aged cheeses. Such cheeses can also be sold at a lower price point than more aged cheeses and usually move faster in the local marketplace. Finally, there are additional expenses and risk associated with creating aged cheeses: mastering the variables of the aging process; trial and error experimentation and the related need to discard a lot of cheese that doesn't turn out right; trying to educate customers who, as you say, may believe that all goat cheese is, or should be, young and spreadable; and having to expand one's market beyond the local area to capture enough customers willing to pay the higher price.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: cheesemaestro

                                                                                                                                            Cheesemaestro, so are you saying the aging mellows the taste? 'Cause with parmesean, it seems to strengthen the taste (thought it is decidedly better IMO -- and yes more expensive).

                                                                                                                                            What still gets me the most on this topic is when "friends" act condescending like I must be closed minded or not have tried the "right" goat chees and they serve me food that has it in it without saying anything -- hoping to prove me wrong and them right, I suspect. I'm happy to keep tasting different types to see if they really are different or if my tastes have changed, but the sneak attack is really annoying to me.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: Emileelee

                                                                                                                                              I love Goat cheese, can't stand blue cheese. Any time I smell it I think of stinky feet. And like others I find cilantro repulsive but love fresh parsley. And olives? Just walking by the olive bar at the grocery store I speed up my pace. I have a friend that does not eat meat. He does not consider himself a vegetarian as he loves bacon. He just doesn't like the texture of meat when tasting it. As for you very immature and foolish friends...next time they try to feed you goat cheese and not tell you grasp your throat and pretend you are having an severe allergic reaction. This should cure them of their stupidity.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: 02putt

                                                                                                                                                Sorry, but crying wolf over what can be a life-threatening medical condition isn't funny, nor should it be attempted.

                                                                                                                                                I'd simply put my fork down as soon as I recognized the offending taste and not eat it. No scene, no dramatic spitting out -- just quiet rejection of the dish. When questioned, I'd simply reply -- I'm sorry, I must have forgotten to tell you that I don't like goat cheese. And leave it at that.

                                                                                                                                                Or...after a repeat offense -- "Y'know, guys, I know I've told you I don't like goat cheese before. You keep trying to slip it past me, so if you have no respect for my likes and dislikes, I have no need to be polite and eat it." And at that (depending on my mood) I'd either get up and leave and sever the relationship (because really, who needs that kind of passive-aggressive crap?!)...or I'd pull out a peanut butter and jelly sandwich (I guessed you'd do this, so I came prepared)

                                                                                                                                                1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                                                                  It would appear to me that the "friends" are thick in the head and it your politeness would get you nowhere. They have already said he hasn't tried it the right way, what ever that is. Besides, I didn't say play dead I said allergic reaction.

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: 02putt

                                                                                                                                                    it's still not a good idea...a severe allergic reaction is no laughing matter, and friends thick enough to not get the message that you don't like goat cheese are also thick enough to call 911 to come treat your nonexistent allergic reaction.

                                                                                                                                                    Faking a genuine medical condition isn't ever a good idea.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: 02putt

                                                                                                                                                      I think your allergic reaction idea actually is quite amusing. I don't see what it could hurt, unless I carried on long enough to really scare them or let them call an ambulance.

                                                                                                                                                      I probably should have just made some gagging sounds as if I was trying not to gag, and spit my food into my napkin in front of them. Started rubbing at my tongue with my napkin... Grabbed my drink, swished it around, run and spit it in the sink, LOL.

                                                                                                                                                      Instead I complimented all the other food but didn't take another bite of the salad. She didn't ask...

                                                                                                                                                      At the time I felt it was very deliberate on her part. I dislike it so much I thought someone would at least ask before serving it. But now that I know how many people really do like goat cheese she may have just been trying to serve me her favorite salad. It had been a couple months earlier when I'm mentioned my loathing of the goat cheese and she's shown skepticism. I'll never know but I do run a little paranoid and suspect she was experimenting on me.

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: 02putt

                                                                                                                                                        Exactly what's wrong with entitled whiny diners in this country these days.

                                                                                                                                                      2. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                                                                        I think crying wolf over it could be funny -- assuming I didn't carry it on too long.

                                                                                                                                                        But what I did was what you said -- I simply did not take one more bite of that dish. I was not asked. This was really just one friend and it had been some time since we'd had our discussion about goat cheese so she may, or may not, have remembered it. But I got the distinct feeling that she put it in the salad just to prove to herself that I didn't really dislike it.

                                                                                                                                                        It is multiple friends (including that one) who have said "well there are lots of goat cheeses" like I'm just too ignorant to know that.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                                                                          I agree- if you don't like something, have the courage of your convictions and tell them you can't stand the taste.
                                                                                                                                                          Don't hide behind a valid issue for some people because you're afraid you're going to look like a weenie for not liking something.
                                                                                                                                                          This is a hot-button issue for me, AND I'm not allergic to any foods at all. I just hate opportunistic liars. And liars in general.

                                                                                                                                                      3. re: Emileelee

                                                                                                                                                        Emileelee, I didn't say that aging mellows the taste. Another poster, ewa95, did. Aging usually does the opposite. Enzymatic activity, proteolysis (breakdown of milk protein), lipolysis (breakdown of fats) and reduction of moisture during the aging process all contribute to creating more intense and concentrated flavors, The particular type of cheese is also a factor, so one can't simply say that a cheese aged six months will taste stronger than one aged three months. To take two Spanish goat cheeses as examples, I would say that Garrotxa, aged about 4 months, is less zesty than Ibores, which may be aged only two months.

                                                                                                                                                        I find threads on the topic of hating a particular food rather pointless. It astonishes me that someone could think that they are the only person who dislikes that food. There isn't a food in existence that everyone likes. I suppose that one may derive satisfaction from hearing about people who feel the same way, but beyond that, so what? I'm even more surprised by threads started by people who feel guilty about loathing a food and want help in learning to enjoy it. "Please help me to like (blue cheese, broccoli rabe, or whatever)", and Chowhounds then offer recipes that they believe are sure to reverse the OP's negative opinion of the food. Why? What's wrong with not liking something, when there are so many other choices available?

                                                                                                                                                        If you've tried different goat cheeses and haven't ever been pleased, that's perfectly fine. You're entitled to your reaction. As for friends who know you don't like goat cheese, but try to make you feel guilty about it or slip it into dishes without telling you, they are being rude and need to be told politely, but firmly, to back off.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: cheesemaestro

                                                                                                                                                          Cheesemaestro -- Oh! I misunderstood. Well now I am still curious to compare aged vs. fresh. But quite afraid.

                                                                                                                                                          I love mozarella and basil and once ordered a salad with "Fresh Mozarella" and Basil. I was quite excited until I took my first bite. I never even considered what "fresh" meant when placed in front of Mozarella... Apparently it means "wet" and mushy. The texture creeped me out and I only ate a couple bites. I think because it was unexpected. I eat yogurt and cottage cheese and deal with the texture just fine.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Emileelee

                                                                                                                                                            If you are curious enough to overcome your fear of trying an aged goat cheese, I suggest the Garrotxa that I mentioned in my previous post. It's mild, with grassy/herbal overtones and not very"goaty," in the bad sense of the word. It has a gray rind that is usually covered with areas of blue/green mold. That's normal and not an indication that the cheese has gone bad. You simply cut the rind off. You'll most likely find Garrotxa in cheese shops and markets with a large cheese department, like Whole Foods. Ask the cheesemonger for a sample. That way, if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: cheesemaestro

                                                                                                                                                              Cheesemaestro, thanks! I just made a note of that and I will definitely look for it at whole foods and try it. I'm not at all afraid of trying it, more curious. I'm skeptical though, because so far, every person who has said "there are lots of goat cheeses" and then given me whatever one they love, well, the depth of nastiness has varied, but it's always been there.

                                                                                                                                                              But Grassy/herbal does sound good to me.

                                                                                                                                                              And it's weird because I'm not typically off put by "gamy" -- I love lamb and goat MEAT (if that means anything).

                                                                                                                                                              If I try it an like it I'll report back in here!

                                                                                                                                                              BTW -- cheeseMONGER? That made me laugh for some reason. The only other "mongers" I've heard of are hatemongers and warmongers!

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Emileelee

                                                                                                                                                                a monger is a peddler -- a fishmonger peddles fish, a cheesemonger peddles cheese....etc, etc., etc. Much older usage than hate- and war- , but there's also a peacemonger in use out there somewhere.

                                                                                                                                                              2. re: cheesemaestro

                                                                                                                                                                Thank you for the recommendation...I plan to try this cheese and will look for it locally

                                                                                                                                                      4. re: ewa95

                                                                                                                                                        Good cheese catch on in America? I'd say the best hard cheese America has to offer could be limited to what Tillamook makes. Semisoft & spreadable cheeses are far more abundant here.

                                                                                                                                                    2. Goat cheese tastes like a barnyard smells. Cilantro & bourbon whiskey tastes like soap (give me the shivers.). Beef tastes like feces smells. Lamb and liver taste awful (can't describe). Taste and smell are connected. When smell is dampened with a head cold or if I "hold my nose" some of these foods loose their intense effect. I smell food before I eat. Ancient hunter/gatherer genes, I guess.

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                                                                                                                                                      1. re: IreneEstelle

                                                                                                                                                        Sounds like you might have grown up on a farm? Most people I know with that strong a hatred of farm smells grew up on one. A doctor once told me that there's nothing like growing up on a farm to make a kid decide to move to town and get an education. But I digress.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: EWSflash

                                                                                                                                                          Love farm smells. Just don't want to eat them.

                                                                                                                                                      2. I love cheese, but NOT goats cheese, ick, ick, ick. Not sure what it is exactly about the taste but it just doesn't work for me. I attend a month board meeting and invariably someone always brings something with goat cheese in it or on it. Invariably, I am always disappointed and revolted by the flavor. I've tried, and tried and tried to like goats cheese, at my age I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen. Cilantro? Not a problem, love the stuff

                                                                                                                                                        1. And then there's the tactile response, especially to slimeyness: grease, fat globs and that ever favorite veggie thickener - okra.

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                                                                                                                                                          1. re: IreneEstelle

                                                                                                                                                            When I go to the u-pick farms nearby, I'll eat a bunch of raw okra while i"m picking it- wonderful, green fresh flavor.
                                                                                                                                                            Well, fat globs in small portions are good to me, I don't have many filters, it appears.

                                                                                                                                                          2. From a food encyclopedia, The Science of Good Food, Joachim and Schloss

                                                                                                                                                            "Goat's milk contains 2 fatty acids (4-ethyloctanoic and 4-methylocatanoic) that are not in cow's milk, giving it a sweaty animal note; some call it barny. This aroma can become marked when milk fats are concentrated, as they are in cheese and butter."
                                                                                                                                                            p 280

                                                                                                                                                            1. I see this is a very old thread, but I STILL HATE goat cheese. I've had it fresh and cured. Either way it makes me retch. I believe anyone who likes it has no gag reflex. It tastes like mothballs smell. Disgusting.

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                                                                                                                                                              1. re: vstoklosa1

                                                                                                                                                                I always think of it as eating a petting zoo. We made a chevre cheesecake (sweet, for dessert) at pastry school and no one ate it. Bad idea

                                                                                                                                                              2. Yeah, I'm a hater, too. Well, a disliker. I can ingest goat's cheese without gagging or retching - I dont have that response, but I just really don't like the way it tastes. Texture is fine to me. But the taste is just too strong, which is odd because I've had people try to convince me of goat's cheese based on its 'mildness'. It tastes strong and sour and sharp to me, and it completely overwhelms anything it's served with.

                                                                                                                                                                Don't think it's the barnyardy bit that bothers me, either, because I love sheep's cheese and sheep's milk yoghurt and part of the reason is the odd barnyardy taste.

                                                                                                                                                                Cilantro IS something that makes me feel nauseous if I smell or eat it but again, I don't think it would make me actually gag or throw up.

                                                                                                                                                                1. I'm so glad I'm not the only person in USA who absolutely hates this stuff. I've tried every known goat cheese known to man because I thought it was just the cheese and not me. It was the cheese. I also have a love/hate relationship to cilantro and absolutely hate diet sodas and have tried for years to "get used to them". Never going to happen. Always wondered if there was some relationship in these notably unrelated foods.

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                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: margareta

                                                                                                                                                                    Not unless you get a goat cheese and cilantro pizza served with a diet soda.

                                                                                                                                                                  2. I am among my people. It feels so good. I hate cilantro and goat cheese (and I hate lamb). These are the only three flavors I've tasted in my life that I HATE, not just "don't care for". I'm a foodie, and am obsessed with cooking and eating. Goat cheese tastes like a stockyard (heavy on the poop and pee smells), and cilantro is sort of soapy, but just mostly vile, and lamb is just as bad as goat cheese. Why is it that all of these flavors are intense and stay in your mouth FOREVER? A tiny speck of cilantro can easily ruin a meal. Accidentally ingesting goat cheese at a party can mean social death when you have to spit it into your napkin. The weirdest thing for me is that I feel like cilantro came into the restaurant scene very heavily about 10 years ago (it was in a multitude of dishes in nearly every restaurant), and now it's goat cheese. I sometimes have a hard time finding a multi-course meal that doesn't have one of these three awful items in it. I was attending a guest chef dinner (Marcus Samuelsson), and had to call the restaurant to see if he'd serve any of these things. They didn't know, so I ditched this potential awesome meal. I'm so happy to know I'm not alone in this food aversion! My friends all make fun of me.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. I'm not a fan of the gamey taste of lamb, goat's milk, or goat cheese. I also hate cilantro, as well as alcohol of any kind & anything "smoked." I also need to tone down the flavor of salmon by cooking it in chinese seasonings. I put a ton of cream in my coffee too.

                                                                                                                                                                      I tend to favor bitter chocolate, ginger, garlic, & vinegar tastes, so it can't be a general dislike of strongly flavored things.

                                                                                                                                                                      My mother & I disagree on goat milk products & lamb, but we both hate cilantro; you can't just pick that shit off; it taints whatever it touches.

                                                                                                                                                                      1. Actually, I love goat cheese. Just had a grilled goat cheese, turkey, and blueberry preserve sandwich on whole wheat bread, It was yummy!

                                                                                                                                                                        1. Hate goat cheese...nearly all goat cheese except Cypress Grove Midnight Moon.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. Those who dislike the "goaty" flavor but want to experiment might try Oak Leaf Goat Cheddar from Oak Leaf Dairy, Lebanon, Ct. A mild off-white cheese, it doesn't taste like either cheddar or the usual goat cheese to me. Not one of my favorites, just an inoffensive bystander.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. I've had goat cheese (chevre) that was chalky or bitter, but even the tastier ones aren't my favorite to have by themselves -- better in a salad with some strong sweetness and sharpness.

                                                                                                                                                                              But I've recently been eating chevre that's so fresh and mild that it's delicious by itself, from a local goat farmer who's just started making and selling it. I'm pinching myself at our luck. With that in mind, I'd encourage you to seek out the closest source; maybe super-freshness makes a big difference.

                                                                                                                                                                              I'm sure the pasture has something to do with it, too -- this farm has sold a growing amount of raw goat's milk for the last few years, drawing in customers who are not at all typical raw milk types because word got around that the homemade yogurt that it makes is so excellent (at a fraction of the cost of good storebought).

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                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: ellabee

                                                                                                                                                                                Glad I posted before reading the thread.

                                                                                                                                                                                Two takeaways: Will think twice before serving goat cheese to guests, even the excellent Kohl Farm product. The strength of so many people's reactions is a little surprising, but that's the way it is with olfactory response -- literally goes right to a part of the brain that has nothing to do with rational thought and everything with avoid-or-devour.

                                                                                                                                                                                The other: apply the same caution to cilantro. In that case there's a known genetic difference that makes it taste soapy or worse. Despite being a big fan of cilantro, and its usefulness in Mexican, Indian, and north African foods I love, I have a good idea how horrible that taste is. Last summer I harvested some overgrown and heat-stressed cilantro in my garden and used it; it was so awful I went off any cilantro for months.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: ellabee

                                                                                                                                                                                  In a fresh, mild cheese, the quality of pasture shines through, as you suspected. From now till May, fresh chevre is even more delicate and special due to spring grasses. This is a good time of year to revisit fresh goat cheese.

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Melanie Wong

                                                                                                                                                                                    Good to know! Though unless the local goat farm in question is doing something very unusual, there's not yet any spring grass to speak of. So I'll look forward to it getting even better in the next month or two...

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: ellabee

                                                                                                                                                                                      Keep us posted!

                                                                                                                                                                                      You might enjoy this thread about spring time cheeses,

                                                                                                                                                                                2. First let me say I love goats, both alive and in curry sauce, but the cheese is just gross! The waft of sheer goatiness that ascends into my sinuses makes me literally want to vomit. I love goats, but I don't want to feel like I've licked the stink off of one. Unfortunately, it seems to be chic to throw it on everything. Different strokes and all that, but it's just definitely not for me.

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. my reaction is exactly the same as the OP. Goat cheese is one of my two least favorite foods on the planet, the other one being the spice garam masala

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. I went to France with my husband in one of his business trip. One of his co-worker took us to a restaurant for dinner.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Apparently, it is very common that restaurant serve goat cheese as appetizer in France. I feel that spoiled my entire meal.

                                                                                                                                                                                      That was the first time and the last time I had goat cheese.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Goldiebird

                                                                                                                                                                                        You let the appetizer spoil your entire meal, and from the sounds of it, your entire trip?

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                                                                                                          LOL. I had the same reaction. Some people love goat cheese and some loathe it. But spoiling the whole meal?

                                                                                                                                                                                          Could the rest of the meal _really_ have been _that_ bad?

                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: Goldiebird

                                                                                                                                                                                          If the restaurant put a gun to your head and forced you to eat a goat cheese appetizer, I guess that could spoil your meal. But I fail to see how merely serving something, that you are free to ignore and not eat if it doesn't agree with you, could be that devastating.

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Melanie Wong

                                                                                                                                                                                            Goat cheese has a particular characteristic that is found in very few other foods. Once you've taken a bite of goat cheese, the taste lingers in your mouth for an extended period of time. If that taste is unpleasant or even disgusting to you, this can affect your enjoyment of the food that follows the appetizer. I agree with Goldiebird. On e something disgusting with a lingering taste sensation has been in your mouth the rest of your meal would be hard to enjoy.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: 303girl

                                                                                                                                                                                              Sounds like a lesson in palate cleansing is in order. Many things I've put in my mouth are less than pleasing and I would never let anything I did not enjoy stay there long enough to impact future bites. Here's what I do.

                                                                                                                                                                                              1) Spit it out.
                                                                                                                                                                                              2) Wipe out the inside of the mouth with a napkin. A rough paper towel is especially good for this purpose. Pay special attention to scrubbing the surface of the tongue and scraping the taste buds.
                                                                                                                                                                                              3) Rinse out the mouth with water.
                                                                                                                                                                                              4) Rinse with wine, beer or other alcohol. Sparkling beverages such as beer are especially good for this. And some times one needs to resort to vodka.
                                                                                                                                                                                              5) Chew on some bread or other starch.
                                                                                                                                                                                              6) If the offending food is sweet, follow up with something salty, e.g., potato chips or ham. If it is savory, follow with something sweet, e.g., honey or chocolate. This helps to reset the palate in the opposite direction.

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Melanie Wong

                                                                                                                                                                                                Excellent suggestions for when you are at home. Can't quite imagine that routine at, say, The French Laundry.

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: 303girl

                                                                                                                                                                                                  All the more reason to clean the palate, when you've paid the freight of a meal at The French Laundry. One simply excuses oneself from the table and goes into the rest room. It's easy enough to ask for bread when you need it. I've had to do this many times in a restaurant setting. And typically steps 1 through 4 are sufficient, but I added the other steps which are sometimes needed too.

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Goat cheese is just beyond nasty. Tastes like how dirty feet smell. I cannot even swallow it. Glad to know there are others out there who despise it as well. My other major dislikes are Chinese 5 spice and Tarragon. Can't eat any of these things. Maybe if my life depended on it, but I don't think so.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. I will have to revoke my prior statement of February 7, 2014....I looooveee goat cheese!

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. I like goat cheese, unfortunately I have to get by on big, box stores for queso de cabra and it is pretty bad. I can sometimes find it fresh from the farm and it is really, really good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. Totally agree. I love cow's milk cheese and some sheep's milk cheeses (roquefort and feta are good in small doses.) But goat's milk cheese has an absolutely horrible aftertaste. Ewwwww ! How can anybody eat this stuff??

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. I like this thread. I feel like i'm not alone in my dislike of goat cheese. It seems that everyone around me loves it, including my 7 year old son. I'll never forget the first time I tasted it. My cousin put it in a lovely appetizer he made for a party. I took a nice big bite because, why not, I love cheese, it's one of my staple foods. I was in shock! I could not believe how bad it was, and everyone else was rhapsodizing about it...I think my eyes were bugging out of my head. I didn't say anything because everyone else loved it. I always think of it as "tastes like a petting zoo smells". But I did try it again, once. My son loves to try samples of various fresh and local goat cheeses at the farmers market, so I thought- what the hell, maybe last time was just a bad one. Nope, disgusting.