471506 Thu Dec 20 22:41:20 -0800 2007 28 2 Los Angeles Area 0 3227486 I haven't posted in awhile, but I had to vent about this place. Back in 2005, I took my Dad to Father's Day brunch at the Downtown location of PDC and was astoundingly underwhelmed. I however, thought that was due largely in part to the fact that we ordered off of the 24 hour breakfast menu. Fast forward to 2007 and I offered to take my friend out to a restaurant of his choice for the holidays - and when he said PDC, I had a hunch to advise otherwise, but hey it's his gift right? For the price, this place sucks. The steaks, advertised as prime, were as thin and ordinary as the $4.99 Whiskey Pete's specials at the California/Nevada Stateline. I ordered the hashbrowns, and out came undercooked breakfast potatoes that I ended up drowning in some weird ketchup concoction provided. God forbid if anyone orders their steak beyond rare, because you'll be eating shoe leather. I was trying hard to figure out where my $$$ was going for this 35 buck ribeye, was it for the novelty of dining in a renovated train car? Holy God, I'll listen to corporate rock and pretend I'm in Australia, in order to have a steak just as good and 28% cheaper at my local Outback. If you ever go into Pane e Vino on Beverly and get the Italian ribeye there, it's $28 bucks or so, and you get a vegetable and tuscan beans on the side. On top of that, the cut is "Flintstones-brontosaurus-sized" and is just wonderful (Mr. Grub, I am eternally grateful for your recommendation years ago). Thinking of how we could have had such a better meal there, made every gagging bite at PDC that much harder to take. So aside from never closing, this place - in my eyes - has nothing going for it. So unless it's 3AM and you're drunk from a night out at a nearby Downtown watering hole or had a nice night out at a K-Town massage parlor and are feeling a bit hungry - you're better off just going to bed and waking up and finding a better meal during normal business hours. There - DONE. Pacific Dining Car 1310 W 6th St Los Angeles, CA 90017 (213) 483-6000 Thu Dec 20 22:41:20 -0800 2007 26154 jaydee 1 3227534 I'm with you. You can get a much better ribeye at Sizzler for half the price. Antob Thu Dec 20 23:47:31 -0800 2007 3227486 21492 antob 2 3883493 I tried a baked potato and a Caesar salad at PDC in Santa Monica and have a similar opinion. The food was okay but overpriced. I like the baked potatoes at Sizzler and the tossed salads and Souplantation better. The ambiance was a bit archaic, but the service was excellent. The waiters were very attentive, polite and friendly. Sat Jul 19 11:20:38 -0700 2008 3227534 57689 katkoupai 1 3227549 i absolutely hate to agree, because for many years i was a huge supporter. but you are completely correct. i might still go and enjoy the ambience and a drink, but will never order a steak again. Fri Dec 21 00:24:29 -0800 2007 3227486 84647 justanotherpenguin 1 3227568 Wow! I haven't been in 4+ years but it was a favorite of my grandparents who took me there from time to time. I think they started going there in the 30's. I always thought that while it was very expensive it was always excellent, both food and service. What a shame! Fri Dec 21 01:09:37 -0800 2007 3227486 10864 sel 1 3227689 I love the breakfast, but I never get the steak, I order the banana walnut pancakes, bacon and potatoes crispy. Always a winner. Sorry your steak was so bad, never fun getting an expensive, tough steak. Fri Dec 21 05:17:09 -0800 2007 3227486 11279 Burger Boy 1 3227716 http://www.laweekly.com/eat+drink/ask-mr-gold/upper-cut-pacific-dining-car-steak/17913/ This is a timly post as I was just reading one of J. Golds new articales(link above) about the PDC. Can the truth lie someplace in the middle? Fri Dec 21 05:41:28 -0800 2007 3227486 147698 BBQ101 2 3227944 i recently did the santa monica branch of Pacific Dining Car steak was not great but totally acceptable - though priced as if it were the best in town, which it is not wine list is good though service awful if i do go back it will be because it's open 24 hours Fri Dec 21 07:20:59 -0800 2007 3227716 134744 paulfromla 1 3228612 Hi Jaydee, The Pacific Dining Car is really a place for regulars ... they don't treat new comers so well.... Fri Dec 21 10:33:54 -0800 2007 3227486 101159 barcelona 2 3229016 right, when i ordered the steak i mentioned, "oh by the way, this is my second time here. please be sure to keep the good stuff for your regulars, don't bend over backwards on my behalf." i glanced around and most folks had the same cut for the most part. some of the smarter ones (i presume, said regular patrons) were eating NON steak items - c'est la vie. i don't mean to be snarky, but your comment has no relevance. the steaks - from what i saw, seemed consistent around the room. while i can agree that regulars tend to appreciate and forgive a place for its charm/failings (hence, why they're regulars), i am not sure that PDC is holding a special stash of bovine for its favorite patrons. Fri Dec 21 12:39:57 -0800 2007 3228612 26154 jaydee 2 3306483 that is asinine...... Thu Jan 17 17:07:19 -0800 2008 3228612 10704 wilafur 1 3228687 I'm with you. We took our son there for his graduation. He wanted an "old-fashioned" steak house. It was INSANELY expensive for what we got. Your review was perfectly in line with our experience. Not to mention, that we arrived, the place was empty ( not a good sign) and continued to be empty and they still argued with me if we had a reservation. Never again. Never. Never. Never. Never. Fri Dec 21 10:54:35 -0800 2007 3227486 114985 icecreaminbed 1 3228728 What a drag. PDC is one of my favs and I always have a great steak there. I hope you spoke to the management. Fri Dec 21 11:04:35 -0800 2007 3227486 60617 rednyellow 1 3229588 You say "God forbid if anyone orders their steak beyond rare" -- how did you order yours? Aside from the fact that you hated it, was the meat cooked to specification? Fri Dec 21 16:56:01 -0800 2007 3227486 77350 sbritchky 2 3229706 rare. my comment was to say that the steaks are so thin, that if you order any where beyond rare, your steak is basically well done. Fri Dec 21 17:58:11 -0800 2007 3229588 26154 jaydee 1 3230121 I had a terrible experience once at the Santa Monica P.D.C. I wrote about it in this post... http://www.chowhound.com/topics/76527#421907 It caused me to reassess my past loyalty to Pacific Dining Car. I decided there were plenty of places to get a better steak for the same money or even less. Fri Dec 21 22:41:11 -0800 2007 3227486 12509 Hackenbush 1 3230558 PDC is all about the breakfast items (non-steak breakfast items, that is). I've personally never had a problem down there. Sat Dec 22 08:20:27 -0800 2007 3227486 144008 Hollis Greene 1 3231730 Go for breakfast. Excellent. I have found the rest of the menu uneven and overpriced. But the breakfast is sublime. Sat Dec 22 19:27:46 -0800 2007 3227486 13794 SilverlakeGirl 1 3240119 For the price and service I too will never go back especially when Taylor's is just a short drive away. The out of towners love taylor's too. Thu Dec 27 11:01:29 -0800 2007 3227486 20304 afs 2 3306376 Anyone - I'm from the high desert. Is Taylor's a great place to take guests from out of state? Thu Jan 17 16:26:20 -0800 2008 3240119 155535 AuntieCarol 3 3306420 I like Taylor's a lot. Old school-style steakhouse. There's one in La Canada Flintridge (kind of north of Pasadena), and another in downtown L.A. The one in L.A. is in a kind of seedy area, coming from your area, I would take them to the one in La Canada. They have a great "sizzling steak" on a platter. Thu Jan 17 16:43:19 -0800 2008 3306376 78611 aurora50 4 3308398 C'mon seedy area??? The original Taylor's has been there for ever and Korea town simply happen to grow around it, It's hardly seedy. The staff at the Taylor's on 8th are top notch and has a great crowd every time. The La Canada Taylor's as the staff will even admit is a different vibe slightly different menu, smaller and rather low key. Just not the same unless you try the original Taylor's, all steak selctions are tasty and prices are from another time long ago. Seedy area ??? You must get out more often. Fri Jan 18 09:32:46 -0800 2008 3306420 20304 afs 5 3308469 I've traveled to several large towns: New York, Washington D.C., New Orleans, Dublin, London. And I stand by my original statement. And, for the record, I do like the original Taylor's as well. Fri Jan 18 09:48:54 -0800 2008 3308398 78611 aurora50 6 3315676 Love Taylors. Everyone I take there loves it too. You can't beat the steaks and you certainly can't beat that price. Get the Molly salad! Sun Jan 20 20:29:16 -0800 2008 3308469 120328 Lmo1823 4 3316945 I grew up in the tree-lined streets of central New Jersey suburbs and went to school in central Missouri. At that point I had visited some big cities too (New York, Philly, Paris)... but only for a visit. Having come from that perspective, when I came to LA at 23 years old, I thought Koreatown was seedy too. Now that I've lived in the city for over 11 years, explored the city thoroughly, and eaten local food in almost every nook and cranny, I feel very comfortable telling you that while the neighborhood in which Taylor's does not have the polished strip malls of Newport Beach or the lovely tree-lined streets where I grew up, it's not seedy, either. Mr Taster Mon Jan 21 10:14:06 -0800 2008 3306420 17579 Mr Taster 3 3317065 I have always enjoyed Taylors and prefer the Los Angeles location. Great spot to dine before an event at Staples Center. However the Baseball Steak ( 2 cuts per steer) may be flavorful but its not tender. I would go for the Ribeye or Filet. And look over their Daily Specials too. The London Broil is mighty good and a great deal to boot! Mon Jan 21 10:46:00 -0800 2008 3306376 97161 Foodandwine 2 3883669 Sorry to disagree, but I've always had good luck with the steaks at the PDC in Santa Monica. I don't think Taylor is any where close to being in the same league. Maybe dollar for dollar it's better value, but I'll go with the PDC steaks any day. My favorite comment about Taylor's was a few years ago someone wrote that the waiter boasted there were only two "culotte steaks" on the cattle, cut form the top sirloin; they also have two ears as well but you might not want to eat them... Sat Jul 19 12:54:13 -0700 2008 3240119 10890 Iceman 1 3315733 only good for breakfast Sun Jan 20 21:00:00 -0800 2008 3227486 11827 woofer 1 3893466 Unimpressed by PDC after two visits.....thank God those were expense account meals. Would not go back on my own nickle Wed Jul 23 03:42:49 -0700 2008 3227486 208240 foufou