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New Handmade Food Shop/Market in Guelph?

doughboy77 Dec 20, 2007 03:43 PM

I've heard rumours of a new handmade food shop in downtown Guelph (3 Wyndham Street) beside the Cornerstone Cafe. It is either already opened or is still under wraps. Haven't made the trip into town to check it out yet. Curious to know if anyone else can verify this rumour or has checked it out.


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    foodie_expat RE: doughboy77 Dec 21, 2007 05:57 AM

    I've been there 3 times in the last week and it is great. Cheese from ON, PE, QC, and BC, some of the best bread I've had in southern Ontario (some made with Red Fife flour), olive oil, vinegars from Niagara, Moonbeam coffee, etc.

    I will be interested to hear what others think. I'm really hoping they can make a go of it.

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      doughboy77 RE: foodie_expat Dec 22, 2007 11:42 AM

      Thanks for the info foodieexpat... So what's the name? What varieties of bread are they making? Any pastry? Hopefully they are busy enough during the busy holiday period to carry them through the crawl of January and February.
      Some of the best bread in S. Ontario? That's high praise! How does it match up to With the Grain? I'm assuming there is no comparison. Personally, I find the breads and sweets at WTG to be bland and uninspired. Any thoughts?

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        foodie_expat RE: doughboy77 Dec 23, 2007 02:51 AM

        Ouderkirk and Taylor. So far they are making baugette, walnut bread, and ciabatta, but no pastry. To my taste, all of their bread is better than WTG, which I am also not fond of (it is too cakey--I like my bread with better-developed gluten and more substantial crusts). As for the best in So. Ontario remark--maybe I just haven't made it to the right places, but even when I go to Toronto, I just can't find any bread that is better than the no-knead bread that I can make at home.

        I will be interested to hear what you think. They are giving out tons of samples so you should be able to taste before buying.

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      chrispygrapes RE: doughboy77 Jan 14, 2008 04:24 PM

      Mmm. I love Ouderkirk and Taylor. I had a double cream brie with ash, and a 4 year sheeps milk cheddar.
      the olive oils are stellar too!

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        johniecanuck RE: doughboy77 Jan 19, 2008 12:04 PM

        Where is this place and where can you buy Rowe Farm products???

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          doughboy77 RE: johniecanuck Mar 28, 2008 12:25 PM

          Ouderkirk & Taylor is located at
          3 Wyndham Street in the heart of downtown Guelph. It's located two doors north of the Cornerstone between Carden and McDonnell. New cheeses arrive weekly. Breads now include baguettes, pain rustique (similar to Ciabatta), 100-mile Red Fife Whole Wheat, Walnut, Cheese (type of cheese varies), Black Olive, and Foccacia.

          Breads now feature a french-style "high-extraction" organic flour from Meunrie Milanaise, a flour mill located near Montreal.

          They also do a lunch counter Mon-Fri, 11am - 2 pm that features sandwich with roasted veggies, cheese on in-house bread.

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            gallileo RE: johniecanuck Aug 13, 2008 04:23 AM

            Rowe Farm is a farm, but they no longer resale livestock. I'm assuming that you are asking about Rowe Farm Meats (unless you have a paddock out back), which is a separate non affiliated company to Rowe Farm. In Guelph, Market Fresh carries Rowe Farm Meats and they are also available at the St. Lawrence Farmer's Market in Toronto (North-East corner of the North market - Saturdays only .

          2. Kagemusha RE: doughboy77 Mar 28, 2008 04:17 PM

            Over-priced, over-rated and probably not long-lived. These places come and go in Guelph with numbing regularity. I'll pass on most artisanal Ontario cheeses, mainly cheddars that never seem to measure up to the surviving small-town factories in E. Ontario. That leaves bread and roasted veggies...

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              hungryyet RE: doughboy77 Nov 10, 2009 11:32 AM

              Ouderkirk & Taylor is a lovely shop with the best baguettes I've had outside of Paris, France. They have delicious cheese and croissant as well. Highly recommended. I really don't know what "Kagemusha" is talking about with their review. O & T is great!

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                Kagemusha RE: hungryyet Nov 10, 2009 12:48 PM

                Hmm, let's see. Mediocre $12 apple pies, over-priced rolls at nearly $6/dozen, and cheeses priced sufficiently high to guarantee complaint after a long repose on the shelf. Perhaps you can pull off this act in TO but not in Guelph, especially with a "chef" from the former Bookshelf Cafe. Maybe a good idea but the Guelph market is too shallow and too tight with a buck. Besides, the place is only a 45 minute drive away from civilization.

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                  Canson RE: Kagemusha Jun 26, 2011 07:40 AM

                  I found the bread to be very good. And the croissants. Montreal level. I agree with foodie - expat, this is much better than what I have found in Toronto (btw: where are the good bakeries in Toronto?) The cheese, for what it is, is reasonably priced. Yes, there are expensive (good) cheeses but there are also more modest cheeses that are reasonably priced (better cheese than you would pay the same price for in a grocery chain). A well selected shop.

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                    Canson RE: Canson Jun 26, 2011 07:57 AM

                    I should mention though: I heard about a newer place up around St. Clair in Toronto that makes real good croissants. I didn't catch the name.

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