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la tache burger Dec 19, 2007 12:23 PM

The fish was delicious. But please explain the style of presentation of this omakase -- a piece of fish every 60 seconds, no time to relax between "courses", no time to feel whether or not you're full, no seeming logic to the progression of the "meal", and then you finally tell them to stop, and then they give you a fat blue crab roll, and then a check for $225 bucks for 2 people (we had one glass of wine and two beers). For that money, this should be a form of fine dining, no? Rather than just 20 pieces fish thrown at you in rapid succession? What am I missing? I'm asking sincerely. Please explain.

  1. wilafur Dec 19, 2007 12:26 PM

    if you eat each peice as they are offered, the itamae may think that the pace works for you. all you need to do is let the waitress or itamae know that you would prefer that the sushi come out slower. problem solved.

    my last omakasae at sushi zo took around 2hrs....and the pace was casual....one piece every 5 or so mins.

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      la tache burger Dec 19, 2007 12:33 PM

      But they take pains to place an etiquette card on the bar in front of you, and on the card it says to eat sushi as soon as it is cut. That seems like a direct instruction to eat the fish as soon as it is placed in front of you. Moreover, should it be up to me to pace my own dinner, espeically at these prices? Omakase means I'm putting myself in the hands of someone capable of orchestrating my meal and its pace.

      1. re: la tache burger
        wilafur Dec 19, 2007 01:08 PM

        the instructions do not prevent you from requesting that the itamae slow down presentation of each piece. if you request a slower pace, the fish will be placed before you in longer intervals, thus the "rule" to eat the fish upon presentation is moot right?

      2. re: wilafur
        westsidegal Dec 21, 2007 06:01 PM

        my last omakase at zo also took a little over 2 hours.
        we were not rushed at all.

      3. SauceSupreme Dec 19, 2007 12:35 PM

        My last experience at Zo was exactly the same. I still think Keizo-san does great stuff, but at the moment I'm ranking Sushi Ike ahead of Zo.

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          ipsedixit Dec 19, 2007 01:56 PM

          Ike rules.

          I'm really going to miss him.

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            exilekiss Dec 20, 2007 10:04 AM

            Hey ipsedixit,

            Sushi Ike is closing?? I didn't even get to try it yet. :(

            1. re: exilekiss
              ipsedixit Dec 20, 2007 01:32 PM

              No, no. NO.

              IKE IS NOT CLOSING (at least not that I know of).

              When I said I'm going to miss Ike it's a reference to my own move out of LA.

              Sorry for the confusion.

              1. re: ipsedixit
                trolley Dec 20, 2007 01:42 PM

                oh no! where are you moving to?

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              Detroit Slim Dec 20, 2007 11:30 AM

              Ike is closing? What's the story on that? Oh no!

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            NAspy Dec 19, 2007 01:02 PM

            I have had both the fast experience and the too slow experience at Sushi Zo and in either case I think the pacing is simply dictated by the needs of the restaurant as opposed to the needs of the diner (which I guess is a service issue; point well taken). I don't think it's every been as little as 60 seconds, but on crowded nights I feel like I've waited too long for my next piece. I generally eat it as soon as it's placed in front of me, but even when it comes quickly, I still find that I have time to savor, reflect on my satiety, drink a bit of tea or eat some ginger before the next one comes. One time a party of two was chatting a great deal and not eating, and Keizo simply halted their omakase until they caught up. They did have about 3 little plates of fantastic looking fish there and I thought they were being a bit unrealisitc as opposed to Keizo being rude.

            1. mollyomormon Dec 19, 2007 01:06 PM

              I only order a la carte there for this reason.

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                epop Dec 21, 2007 08:20 AM

                the scale and the pacing are human. keizo doesn't have a lot of help at the bar and when it gets busy i'm sure such problems can occur. that's the nature of the place. + one should always ask for more time, if necessary. i've sat there for 3 hours, slowly enjoying my meal.

                1. omotosando Dec 21, 2007 04:23 PM

                  Sorry to hear about the pacing. Last time I went, my guest and I sat right in front of Keizo-san and the pacing was just perfect. He just seemed to sense when to give us a piece of fish and when to let us talk. The bar was full too. Maybe we just got lucky. I agree that even if the fish is good, poor pacing can really kill the joy.

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                    kevin Dec 22, 2007 05:58 PM

                    in a nutshell, you are exactly correct.

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