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Best Vietnamese in Little Saigon (SF)

james09 Dec 16, 2007 03:15 PM

My wife and I are interested in the best Vietnamese food for the money in Little Siagon (Larkin and Eddy area). A few years ago we ate at Bodega Cafe and enjoyed it. We returned recently and were somewhat disappointed with the menu - so, we chose to eat next door at Mangosteen. I have the tofu clay pot and my wife had garlic noodles with tofu and vegetables - we were generally happy with our menu choices and the food - walked out having spent $34bucks, appetizer included.
What have you enjoying/recommend in this area.

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    P. Punko RE: james09 Dec 17, 2007 12:24 AM

    People like Turtle Tower on Larkin for pho, I like Pagolac (Ellis and Larkin) but haven't been in a year or so.

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      Windy RE: P. Punko May 18, 2008 08:14 PM

      I have a vague recollection that the people who own Pagolac are from Hue...or maybe it was just a woman in the kitchen.

      The "Little Saigon" branding offends me, as if only people from the very south of the country had restaurants in the Tenderloin. Smacks of politics rather than accurate regional cuisine.

      Has anyone been to Mangosteen since they reopened? I used to love their bo luc lac and garlic noodles.

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      david kaplan RE: james09 Dec 17, 2007 05:06 AM

      I still like Bodega Bistro, especially for bun cha ha noi and banh xeo. Best value for money? Banh mi at Wrap Delight.

      Wrap Delight
      426 Larkin St, San Francisco, CA 94102

      Bodega Bistro
      607 Larkin St, San Francisco, CA 94109

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        P. Punko RE: david kaplan Dec 17, 2007 10:48 AM

        I like Baguette express the best, based on consistency for banh mi, and there is also a Lee's Sandwiches in the neighborhood now. Remember, the pictures on the menu at Baguette Express don't look anything like the sandwiches or what is on them. They are standard banh mi- baguette, meat, daikon, carrots, cucumber, jalapeno, mayo-ish sauce.

        Baguette Express
        668 Larkin St, San Francisco, CA 94109

        Lee's Sandwiches
        625 Larkin St, San Francisco, CA 94109

        655 Larkin St, San Francisco, CA 94109

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          bbulkow RE: P. Punko May 17, 2008 03:39 PM

          I would never, ever send anyone to Lee's. The meat I had was gristly, the grilling was substandard, the baguette large and flavorless, the pickles without zing. I don't get up there enough to have tried the other Bahn Mi joints, but I don't plan on going back to Lee's.

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            Robert Lauriston RE: bbulkow May 18, 2008 11:10 AM

            Pickles? On bahn mi?

            It's a chain with branches all over California and in Arizona, Texas, and Oklahoma.

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              junesix RE: Robert Lauriston May 19, 2008 07:35 PM

              I think he meant the pickled veggies.

              And I don't know what type of controls the franchise has in place but the Lee's in Tenderloin tastes nothing like the ones in Southern CA.

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        grubber4 RE: james09 Dec 17, 2007 09:32 AM

        Frankly, there is none. Little Saigon has a mix of several banh mi shops and pho shops (including Turtle tower), but most of the places are owned and run by ethnic chinese and thus do not reflect some aspects of vietnamese cooking. There is nothing in the Little Saigon area of San Francisco that even comes close to the San Jose style vietnamese restaurants. A few places do a few dishes okay. Bodega Bistro, while lauded on this board, is a completely confused restaurant with beef tornado and chicken cordon bleu on the menu (along with bun cha and pho). Of the lot, i do baguette express for bahn mi, turtle tower for northern style pho and Bodega for southern style.

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          P. Punko RE: grubber4 Dec 17, 2007 10:50 AM

          What San Jose-style places would you recommend? I find Pagolac to be very good vietnamese, and have never felt the menu o be anything but authentic- have you been?

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            Robert Lauriston RE: grubber4 May 17, 2008 09:39 AM

            Bodega's menu includes a handful of French dishes, including broiled chicken with mushroom sauce, duck with orange sauce, and bouillabaisse, but not chicken Cordon Bleu or tournedos.

            There's nothing confused about that. They make French and French-influenced food in Vietnam. For example, pho evolved from pot au feu, and bo luc lac from steak au poivre.

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              Xiao Yang RE: Robert Lauriston May 17, 2008 10:52 AM

              Not to mention the baguettes used for banh mi....

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              Xiao Yang RE: grubber4 May 17, 2008 10:48 AM

              I don't think you can disparage Vietnamese cuisine executed by ethnic Chinese. A typical ethnic Chinese Vietnamese family is likely to have entered Vietnam around 1937, fleeing the Japanese, and remained there until 1976 when the Vietnam war ended and the Communists took over Saigon. They may have been initially limited in employment options, and thus entered the restaurant business, and had 40 years to get it right. Were it not for ethnic Chinese bringing us Vietnamese food, we wouldn't have a lot of places like The Slanted Door, Bodega Bistro, PPQ, etc.

              Would you rather spend your money at PPQ (ethnic Chinese owned) or Crustacean (ethnic Vietnamese owned?)

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                grubber4 RE: Xiao Yang May 17, 2008 12:23 PM

                Oh, i definitely wouldn't disparage at all. I totally agree with your post. It's just that Cholon style Vietnamese food is different from other regional foods of Vietnam. It relies on different flavors, spices and sauces. At the risk of generalizing, that type of food is different (not better or worse). Different noodle types, soy sauce based flavors are all part of the wonderful pallette of Vietnamese food. That's why I brought it up, if that's a person's only exposure to Vietnamese food, they will be shocked when they try other regional or ethnic Vietnamese food.

            3. Robert Lauriston RE: james09 May 16, 2008 09:44 AM

              How does the food at Anh Hong on Geary compare with that at the one in Berkeley?

              Another topic on best Vietnamese in SF:


              Anh Hong Restaurant
              808 Geary St, San Francisco, CA 94109

              1. Dave MP RE: james09 May 16, 2008 08:51 PM

                I love the duck leg noodle soup at Hai Ky Mi Gia....as grubber4 points out, this is actually Chinese Vietnamese food (or Vietnamese Chinese?), but I think this is one of the best deals in Little Saigon. Pretty sure it's lunch-only.

                Hai Ky Mi Gia
                707 Ellis St, San Francisco, CA 94109

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