469388 Fri Dec 14 06:47:52 -0800 2007 10 23 Ontario (including Toronto) 0 3207340 I haven't been to either but am looking for an upscale romantic/cozy place with excellent food/service to take my wife to for her birthday. Would appreciate any insight you can provide as to which would be the better choice... or if you'd suggest something different that would be great too! Thanks. Fri Dec 14 06:47:52 -0800 2007 148822 magicintern 1 3207494 I've been to North 44, and it was meh. The food was average - I had the lamb chops - and I didn't feel it was worth the price. I haven't been to the Fifth, but everyone I know that has been raves about it. Especially the tasting menu. Fri Dec 14 07:48:36 -0800 2007 3207340 53671 Davedigger 1 3207505 I have only been to North 44 on a Winterlicious dinner excursion and it was very underwhelming. I understand that there are limitations on what a restaurant like North 44 can offer during these kinds of promotions (which begs the question - why bother?) Anyway, I would highly recommend Scaramouche. It's lovely - the atmosphere is romantic and warm, service is perfect, and the food - oh the food! I would definitely recommend going to the restaurant rather than the pasta bar and grill that is connected to it. Fri Dec 14 07:52:30 -0800 2007 3207340 93263 Yum2MyTum 1 3207538 I've been finding a confusion between The Fifth Grill and The Fifth..we almost had a christmas party at the Fifth Grill and half the invitees thought it was The Fifth.. I assume you mean the Fifth Grill? Fri Dec 14 08:04:01 -0800 2007 3207340 115868 burlgurl 2 3207570 It used to be called "The Fifth" when it was high-end french dining. Now it's a high-end steakhouse and called "The Fifth Grill". Fri Dec 14 08:11:12 -0800 2007 3207538 12124 TorontoJo 3 3207669 my mistake! it was the Fifth Grill and 5th Element where my groups confusion came from! Fri Dec 14 08:38:11 -0800 2007 3207570 115868 burlgurl 1 3207675 I've been to both and much prefer The Fifth Grill. I prefer the room, and and further have never felt that North 44 was worth the extravagant prices. Fri Dec 14 08:40:15 -0800 2007 3207340 12074 bluedog 2 3216527 Hey everyone, I was just curious as to what I should wear to this restaurant. I normally dawn a suit and tie but would a cardigan or v-neck pullover and tie be okay? I haven't been to this restaurant but I am going this friday. Any help with the appropriate attire would be appreciated. Mon Dec 17 15:56:39 -0800 2007 3207675 150709 commischef 3 3217991 I'd say yes, but I'm usually pretty casual. Tue Dec 18 07:22:08 -0800 2007 3216527 12074 bluedog 3 3221223 No need to wear a suit and tie at all...I have eaten there dressed quite casually (even jeans with a jacket).. Enjoy your meal. Wed Dec 19 04:56:50 -0800 2007 3216527 13866 tasoid 4 3221277 Agree with the above posters (and have popped in for late dinner in casual clothes)... but note that there is a club downstairs and the resto often does draw a hipster crowd, many of whom "dress to impress." This is, of course, a totally inane concept, but if you want to know the unspoken dress code... Wed Dec 19 05:33:24 -0800 2007 3221223 60563 Rabbit