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Dec 8, 2007 07:26 AM

2005 Bordeaux.. What Value Wines are you buying?

I am curious to hear what 2005 Bordeaux Value Wines are you Buying? With so many coming to Market I would like to purchase an additional 10 cases to either drink young or to store ( I have a Locker off site ) I have purchased to date:

en primeur:
Petit Bocq
Clos Chaumont
Caronne St. Gemme

off the shelf:
Tour Saint Bonnet
Bujeau La Grave
Hauts Cabroles
Chateau Du Bois Chantant

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  1. I've had so much bad luck trying to find Bourdeaux wine under $30 that I liked that I have gone to drinking Bergeracs where I used to drink Bourdeaux.
    I am curious about what the more knowledgeable wine people here think about that. Should I be smarter about trying to find the Bourdeaux, or is my strategy rational for an everyday wine of this type?.

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    1. re: davebough

      davebough, I started to experiment with trying 'value' bordeaux with the '00s because that vintage, like '05, is compared to a flood tide that raises all ships. The pricier chateaux have the means and labor to take more drastic corrective/compensatory measures in the poor weather vintages, so the great vintages are a bigger relative boost to the more modest winemakers. The great vintages also inflate the prices of more prestigious chateaux even further, increasing the price attraction of their modest siblings.

      I found a couple of great values under $15, the $10 stuff I got enough to drink some young, and then at 5-6 years. After that relatively short cellaring, they easily surpassed Calif. or Aussie wines in the $20-30 range. From that bit of self-education, I'd guess that cellaring is the way to maximize the real values in under $25 bordeaux. If you drink them young, you might not be giving their virtues the best chance to shine, relative to other wines.

    2. another great value 2005 is Croix Mouton.. any others out there buying 05 Bordeaux?

      1. Are you familiar with the Bordeaux Wine Bureau's list of the top 100 Bordeaux under $25? You can find it here:
        Many of the wines on the list are '05s.

        I've bought several of these for a tasting I'm doing next Sunday -- will report back on what (if any) we've liked.

        1. We hit up K&L in San Francisco to try some of the '05s before they flew out the door. Our favorite reds, in descending order:

          Chateau Beaumont, Haut-Medoc: Rich, balanced, and after five hours of decanting, drinkable now. Unfortunately it's been written up everywhere as the top deal of the vintage and now there's almost none left!

          Richelieu, Fronsac. Very concentrated and wonderful. This is probably not something to hold for a dozen years per se (and at this price range, probably not many of the wines are) but I think it would be really delicious in five years. I should mention that I'm a hugely biased fan of wines from Fronsac because of the taste per value.

          Rose Mayat, Puisseguin, St. Emilion. Very musty and earthy. I love it; my bf, not so much.

          Chateau Pipeau, St. Emilion. Powerhouse wine.

          Marges, Graves. Not impressive, but at $10 a bottle, not offensive. A good Tuesday drinker if you're sick of California "everyday wines," which is such a misnomer anyway.

          For fun, we got a bottle of Marjosse bordeaux blanc. Really a lovely oakless crisp white that's perfect for summer. At $12, it's an easy do.


          1. If you bought some of the Petit Bocq, then you'll love the Ch. d'escurac. A powerful cru bourgeois from the Medoc that was one of Robert Parker's top sleeper values. You should still be able to find it for around $20-25. Great for short-mid term cellaring. I would also recommend Ch. La Tonelle. A real steal for around $15. Powerful and concentrated with real character from a pure gravel vineyard in the Cissac region of the Medoc.