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Restaurant with good wine for 3 guys

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zen123 Nov 26, 2007 01:28 PM

Looking for a restaurant that:

1. Is moderately priced (basically less than $40 per person not including tax, tips, wine)
2. Has good food (goes without saying, really)
3. Has a great wine list
4. Is not too intimate / dark / romantic, we're 3 guys trying to catch up, after all! It'd be slightly awkward if it is a date spot or something.

Location doesn't matter as long as it's in Manhattan.

Thanks!

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    kpsquared RE: zen123 Nov 26, 2007 01:51 PM

    Here are some ideas:

    Otto
    Kashkaval
    Pastis
    Mercat
    Artisanal

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    1. re: kpsquared
      steve h. RE: kpsquared Nov 26, 2007 03:06 PM

      i'll second otto. good, not great, food. the wine list is extensive and well thought out. consider glomming onto a stand-up table in the bar area: give vent to your wine passions and foody proclivities. drinking/eating at the bar is pretty good, too. better, sometimes, because you can interact with the barkeep.

    2. Spiritchaser RE: zen123 Nov 26, 2007 02:31 PM

      Etcetera Etcetera - not a huge wine list but what they have is very good

      Telepan (this might push the $ limit)

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        Elyssa RE: Spiritchaser Nov 27, 2007 12:52 PM

        I ate at Etcetera Etcetera before a Broadway show last December and really enjoyed my meal there. I had a nice glass of wine as well...just can't remember what type.

        Also would 2nd Artisanal but some people have said it could get loud in there in the past when I have recommended it for different things.

        I would add CraftBar to the list. Although I'm not positive about their wine list.

      2. Porthos RE: zen123 Nov 26, 2007 02:56 PM

        Lupa: http://www.luparestaurant.com/menu-wi...
        'Ino: http://www.cafeino.com/menus_vinoR.php
        'Inoteca: http://www.inotecanyc.com/menu_wineBT...

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          rrems RE: zen123 Nov 26, 2007 03:00 PM

          Crispo.

          1. financialdistrictresident RE: zen123 Nov 26, 2007 03:29 PM

            The Harrison has a very good wine list and good food. I went earlier this year so I defer to hounds who may have more recent experiences regarding the food. It's a little dark but not romantic, more of a business vibe.

            I like Artisanal but didn't check out their wine list when I was there. It's lively and can be noisy if you're trying to catch up. My friend had the prix fixe dinner and really enjoyed the steak.

            We were at Crispo about a week ago and the food was good. A huge entree (enough for two) was less than $20. Didn't check out the wine list. It can be noisy (see recent thread on atmosphere and what to order).

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              markabauman RE: financialdistrictresident Nov 26, 2007 03:32 PM

              Might suggest Veritas, but it might be difficult to stay under budget. Great food, and of course, wine.

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              mrnyc RE: zen123 Nov 26, 2007 03:47 PM

              INOTECA would be ok. wine friendly food.

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                LeahBaila RE: mrnyc Nov 26, 2007 04:17 PM

                Second 'inoteca and Otto

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                rrems RE: zen123 Nov 26, 2007 03:53 PM

                Veritas is way over your budget, not a place just for just getting together with friends, and the Harrison, though very good, is also pretty pricy. Artisanal is up there also, and good but not great. I think Otto is mediocre, though it is popular so I guess a lot of people don't agree with me.

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                  financialdistrictresident RE: rrems Nov 26, 2007 04:26 PM

                  rrems, Artisanal has a $35 prix fixe dinner if OP is flexible as to dining time. Also at OP's $40 pp for food, The Harrison might work.

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                    idia RE: financialdistrictresident Nov 26, 2007 05:21 PM

                    Crispo for sure!
                    West Bank Cafe.

                2. erin07nyc RE: zen123 Nov 27, 2007 12:34 PM

                  E.U. has great food and a good wine list. Atmosphere is cozy, and I've definitely seen guys groups there.

                  1. TBird RE: zen123 Nov 27, 2007 12:49 PM

                    otto
                    mercat
                    ino
                    inoteca

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