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Nov 21, 2007 08:48 AM

Zagat South Florida's New Rankings are up

Its new rankings are up for the coming year. Leading the way...Michy's with a 28 for food. Michael's came in at a 25. Table 8, down at 23. Anyone who has taken a look, which places do you think the food is rated too high for, where do you reckon is rated too low?

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  1. I think the relative rankings of sardinia, table 8 and talula, are low when compared to other restaruants in miami.

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    1. re: tpigeon

      Table 8 I would have had pegged as a 25, Talula I have yet to experience but from all accounts it seemed as if a 25 would be the low-figure. I also thought Michael's would have a higher ranking.

      It is interesting how a score may be inflated or deflated based on price/expectations going in. It makes it that much more surprising that so few "holes in the wall" get high scores for food in this region.

      1. re: mikek

        My guess is that tourist rankings skew the higher-end places up.

        1. re: tpigeon

          How about this one...a 19 for food for DeVito's. I was going to make a reservation there for my group of friends coming in town for NYE, however that plan has since been scrapped.

          It is actually amazing how difficult it is to find good food and a party atmosphere where noise will not be an issue on South Beach. We have Prime 112 booked now but cannot think of any place else worth going. Nobu? Would Talula be too quiet? Quattro?

          1. re: mikek

            A 19 for devitos is accurate don't go -- good job Zagats.

            My guess is talula will be packed on NYE just like every other place and will not be as quiet as you think. Quattro is overpriced, but it probably would be a great scene - especially if you can get a seat one row back from linclon outside (so you can check out the lr scene without random people approcaching you). Nobu is very good and will have a good scene but it might get a bit cramped in there...

            1. re: mikek

              Nobu, Bond St, Tuscan Steak, China Grill. The patio at Ago could be a good call.

              1. re: Sobe

                True, though the patio outside ago, or blue door at the delano might be very loud.

                1. re: tpigeon

                  I thought he was looking for a party atmosphere.

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        1. The following from the "Top Food - Miami" list are certainly puzzling ->

          Quinn's? 26 food rating? This is the place in the Park Central, right? WTF?
          We happened to stop in there for a drink a couple weeks ago and it looked like yet one more completely generic Ocean Drive s*hole. No ambience at all, nothing particularly appealing about it, and the bartender couldn't properly make a mojito or an old-fashioned. Has anyone who lives in Miami actually eaten there - ever?

          Andiamo - 25 pts on food? Really? I'm not even sure it's among the top 5 pizza places in town.

          Vix - 25 pts food? Other than the Indian Miami Spice menu, I've never heard anyone say much positive about this place other than the jellyfish tank.

          Shoji - 25 pts food - has anyone that rated this place actually eaten there the past 2 years?

          On the other hand, nice to see Timo getting some love. This place has long been on my underrated list.

          Surprised to see Sardinia rated so low. Also somewhat baffling that they lead with a comment that it's "known only to locals." Umm, yeah, only locals and everyone who reads the New York Times.

          Also surprised to not see Talula on the "Top Food - Miami" list with "only" a 24 food rating. A few other 24s squeaked in instead: Cofradia, Siam Lotus Room (good, but ??), Nemo, and Cafe Sambal.

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          1. re: Frodnesor

            I have eaten at Quinn's...lack luster at best. And I love Ocean Drive and really wanted to love it, seeing how I have a place two blocks South. I am not familiar with the Zagat rating structure, but based on it's competitors, it seems very overzealous. Granted, I only went there once, and frankly once was enough!

            As for DeVitos, again I want to love this place because of it's location, but the food isn't happening . My good friend coincidently named DeVito was in town last week so we had to go. I had been to their Spice offering and it was good, nothing super special that's for sure. His $49 bone in Filet ordered medium came out well done, then they took their sweet ass time to replace it with a REAR one...and the thing that got my goat was the server saying the last one was just a "tad" over medium...yeah maybe along side the bone-bonehead! My Short Ribs stewed "24 hours" or some such hog wash were far from "cut with a fork" tender. The sauce was ok, but all in all just so-so. I have yet to enjoy a good plate of Short Ribs down here and could use some friendly chowhound guidance. I must admit, the 20+ dollar Rigatoni Bolongese was solid, but hardly worth the price. The sides were respectable.

            How is Spiga? My other good friend joining us, swears by Fodors and evidently they got Top Italian in SOBE? I drove by the other day and saw the Zagat sign and wonder is it any good and how they did compartitively numberwise? I ate there years ago and remember it being good, but never ventured back.

            1. re: netmover

              I went to spiga years ago and it was very good but not as good as other italian places mentioned on this board such as osteria, sardinia, macalusos (which I know you hate), grazie and tuscan.

              1. re: tpigeon

                TP, I don't hate Macalusos...I just think it's over rated and he appears to be quite pompous in the 'no changes' policy he's taken. I actually went to the market a while ago, based on your recommendation, and got some great meatballs.

              2. re: netmover

                Not sure what your friend is referring to. The "Top Italian" for all of Miami has Romeo's, Osteria del Teatro, Vialetto, Escopazzo and Abbracci. If Spiga isn't one of the 2 South Beach places that made this list, don't know how it could be top Italian in South Beach.

                It did get a 24 food rating. I've never been.

                1. re: Frodnesor

                  Frod Spiga is supposedly tops in Fodors...and he may have an older edition.

                  Has anyone been lately?

                  1. re: netmover

                    Spiga is one of 7 Italian restaurants listed by Fodor (on the online site, at least), the others being Prima Pasta, Abbracci, Casa Tua, Escopazzo, Perricones and Tuscan Steak.

                    I have never found Fodor's to be remotely useful for restaurant recs.

                  2. re: Frodnesor

                    Interesting to see Escopazzo with a 26. I have not been in a few years and never see it mentioned on Chow. Has anyone been recently? Is the 26 accurate?

                    On a side note, just wondering if you guys actually vote on Zagat. I do.

                    1. re: The Chowfather AKA sobe

                      I did once, a few years ago. I have not been to esco in years either. I think they went very organic/heatlhy.

                      1. re: tpigeon

                        I have eaten at Escopazzo recently and it was great, and unique on the beach (and possibly all Miami) in that it is totally organic, with real vegetarian options, as well as raw food items.

                        1. re: Miami Danny

                          Is that a new thing? I thought they were just another Italian place.

                          1. re: Frodnesor

                            Somewhat new. Over the last 2 years I think...

              3. i missed these while away on my honeymoon.