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Nov 19, 2007 06:38 AM

Michelin 3 stars

Just google Michelin Tokyo and got the list of 3 stars, as follow :
Hamadaya, Classic Japanese
Joel Robuchon, French
Kanda, Japanese
Koju, Japanese
L'Osier, French
Quintessence, French
Sushi Mizutani, Sushi
Sukiyabashi Jiro, Sushi

Agree that Tokyo is the top culinary capital in the world. Glad the French finally agreed as well.

I have tried Sukiyabashi Jiro, and agreed it is absoultely one of the best restaurant in the world and my personal favorite sushi place.

I have not tried the rest on the list (even though I did try Robuchon in Macau). Would appreciate if anyone who has tried any share the experience with us.

Would also appreciate if anyone who has the list of 2 stars and 1 star to share the list on Chowhound too.

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  1. Hi FourSeasons, how do you make reservation at Jiro ? Did you call in Japanese ?

    I cannot find any information regarding Kanda and Koju on the internet. I would really appreciate if anyone can have any info on them. Do you need to know someone in order to make reservation ? Thanks !

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    1. re: skylineR33

      OK, the Asahi Shimbun has the complete list:

      Here are a few of the two-star restaurants:
      Michel Troisgros
      Sant Pau
      Pierre Gagnaire
      L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon
      Le Mange-Tout

      I was surprised by Mange-Tout - it's a tiny neighborhood restaurant with food that's good but not very exciting. Certainly not the level of Pierre Gagnaire or Joel Robuchon, in my opinion.

      1. re: Robb S

        How did the 'Iron Chefs' restaurant do?

        1. re: Charles Yu

          There is none except Morimoto, oh well... or am I missing something ?

          1. re: lost squirrel

            I had a very enjoyable meal at Iron Chef French's restaurant ' La Rochelle ' about a year ago. Food was tasty, view was great, service was attentive. With these, I was surprised to see them not getting even a single star! Wow!! If this a reflection of Tokyo's overall eateries food standard. What a place for us Chowhounds!! Actually, its borderline scary!!

          2. re: Robb S

            I was not blown away by L'Atelier. I did the course and it was all very good, but there wasn't a single dish that I was really, really excited about. My friend did order a lamb dish though that I was wishing I chose instead of the risotto. I'm looking forward to trying out some of the others mentioned on the list.

          3. re: skylineR33

            Hi skylineR33: The hotel concierge helped me with the reservation at Jiro. The one I tried is at Roppongi Hill, tel: 03-5413-6626. I understand it is managed by the founder's son. Very small restaurant, i think just 10-15 seats. Only 2 sushi chefs, I believe one of them is the founder's son and the other one speaks fluent English
            There is another Jiro at the Takashimaya department store in Nihonbashi, which I have never tried before. I think that is the original branch managed by the father.

            1. re: FourSeasons

              I think I will do the same. May I ask how long advance do you call to make reservation ? I will only be in Tokyo for a week or so. Thanks.

              1. re: skylineR33

                My last trip was on early October and I booked the dinner on the same evening without any problem. I wonder if the reservation may get difficult now with so much publicity from Michelin Guide.

          4. Wow - that is a lot for a small country- Los Angeles got onl three I believe...

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            1. re: miffy

              Tokyo is not really small, it has close to 13 million residents compared to just 4 million for Los Angeles.

              1. re: miffy

                Los Angeles doesn't have any restaurant with 3-Michelin stars in their 2008 guide. Only 3 restaurants gained 2 stars: Melisse, Spago & Urasawa.

                San Francisco 2008 Michelin Guide lists only one 3-Michelin restaurant: Thomas Keller's French Laundry, which makes it the top-ranked restaurant in California according to the Michelin folks.

                1. re: klyeoh

                  4 L.A. Restaurants have 2 stars. You missed Providence.

                  1. re: foodiemahoodie

                    Sorry, I was referring to my Michelin Los Angeles 2008 Guide which listed Providence as having only 1 star. Did they gain a 2nd star in the new Michelin LA 2009 guide?

                    1. re: klyeoh

                      Hi klyeoh,

                      Hai. Providence gained a 2nd Star this year.

              2. Question: By nationality and catagory, which of the 2 or 3 stars offers the Tastiest and 'Best value for money' food?

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                1. re: Charles Yu

                  I'd say China Blue is a definite two-star winner -- not too sure about the others and find the list depressingly full of French/Japanese. There are a lot of great, great restaurants beyond those two categories.

                2. After reading the above and the 'complete list' and evaluating it against previous threads and postings I have made a couple of interesting discoveries.
                  1) None of the '2007 World's best 50 restaurants' listed by Restaurant Magazine featured a Tokyo based restaurant. Guess they have to look closer at Japan and make some major changes next year.
                  2) The 2007 ranking of Zagat's Top 10 Tokyo Restaurants feature only 3 restaurants having one star. The rest have no stars at all!!
                  Interesting!! Guess I'll rely on the Japan board for info for the up-coming trip to Japan.

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                  1. re: Charles Yu

                    Hi CharlesYu: on top of these 2 lists, recently released its latest annual 10 best French restaurants outside of France. None of the three French restaurants in Tokyo awarded with Michelin 3 stars is in its top 10 list. Apparently, the only French restaurant in Japan that is listed is Michel Bras in Toya Hokkaido.


                    1. re: Charles Yu

                      I am not able to comment on Caprice or Louis XV as I have not tried them before. I was not that impressed with Per Se; maybe it was due to my very high expectation. I went there thinking it would be so great as acclaimed by the media. I walked out thinking it was good but certainly not on my favorite list, and certainly would not be going back there paying US$300 per head. French Laundry and Chateau Robuchon Tokyo were in their top 10 list last year but did not make it this year.
                      Clearly this type of "best" list always invite controversy. I personally thought the Restaurant magazine's list is an even much bigger joke.

                    2. re: Charles Yu

                      Hello Charles Yu, on your point 2), the gap seems to stem from the Zagat methodology: in the end it is a popular vote by the public, not necessarily by critique with trained tongue (but that does not mean Michelin is the absolute guide). The food ratings by Zagat are a lot of times influenced by all other variables such as decor, atmosphere, or if they had a good time or not, rather than the pure food quality itself. I would go with whatever you feel trustworthy after trying a couple of things, be it Michelin or Gault Millau or Pudlo (in Paris) or Amakara-techo (in Japan) or Tom Sietsema (for Washington Post).

                    3. I'm Tokyo-bound on Saturday and have reservations at 5 of 8 (Hamadaya, Joel Robuchon, Kanda, L'Osier, and Mizutani) and one of the 2 stars (Kikunoi). Speaking of the 2 star selections, I believe Twenty-One has temporarily closed on the heels of a well-publicized beef scandal:

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                      1. re: BaronDestructo

                        Just be aware that Hamadaya, Kanda and Kikunoi are kaiseki meals, and Robuchon and L'Osier are French, so you don't get much varieties over your dining schedule. Also note the three kaiseki restaurants focus on seasonal stuffs, so you may get the same seasonal food but with different interpretations.

                        1. re: FourSeasons

                          the new 2009 michelin guide for tokyo is out.. ishikawa is the newly added 3 star restaurant

                        2. re: BaronDestructo

                          Twenty-One has reopened under a new name, Le Pergolese, which is the name of Chef Gaborieau's restaurant in Paris.

                          1. re: BaronDestructo

                            How was your experience?
                            Love to hear it..