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spinach Nov 18, 2007 06:11 PM

first and foremost the new chef should have been Besh however that's just my opninion. i wanna know are we going to have to hear chef symon giggle every time he's on? it sounds so moronic. i realize it may be something he does out of habit but geez louise it grates on the nerves.

  1. Morton the Mousse Nov 20, 2007 09:14 AM

    Symon was the clear winner. That may have been the most qualified table of judges to date. All of them strongly preferred the flavors and originality in Symon's dishes. Both liver dishes looked fantastic It's fortunate that the judges were sophisticated enough to appreciate Symon's use of offal. .

    1. rockandroller1 Nov 20, 2007 06:58 AM

      I love his laugh, it always makes me laugh when I hear it. It's not a "nervous giggle," that's how he always laughs, I've heard it in person.

      I thought it was close battle but think in creativity and presentation chef symon kicked the other guy's butt, I'm glad the judges agreed.

      I wonder how much wonderful cooking, creative presentation and great tasting food he will have to present until the sore loser besh fans will concede that he deserved to win. It's like Bush v. Gore all over again, and this coming from a Democrat. He won. Get over it. Move on.

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        hungry_pangolin Nov 20, 2007 05:51 AM

        Grrr... thanks a bunch for the spoiler. It hasn't shown yet in Canada.

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          in_wonderment Nov 20, 2007 08:19 AM

          it aired a whiles ago in the states. for us i dont think its anywhere near being a spoiler. its kind of like the ending to harry potter. past two weeks, im not sure its really a spoiler.

          sorry, i guess i didn't realize how far off the viewing schedules are in canada? how long does it typically take to get there? i know great britain gets U.S. shows months late, but there really isn't a way to keep spoilers from them, because here its old news.

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            hungry_pangolin Nov 20, 2007 09:21 AM

            Unfortunately, it's impossible to predict. I know that we get some UK stuff before you, some American stuff I think at the same time, and of course some (most?) of the Canadian stuff you never see. Right now, the next episode is the Besh/Symon showdown.

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              in_wonderment Nov 20, 2007 10:01 AM

              that would be tough then. and its definitely difficult to avoid spoilers. i mean, if you didn't see it on chowhound, you could have any it through any news headline, or on the foodnetwork site. i would say its problematic visiting "food media and news" on chowhound, knowing you havent seen the ending yet....

              ...but like you said, i bet you dont even know if its airing at the same time, or a few weeks late. plus knowing the internet/current events junkie that i am, i wouldn't be able to avoid it if i tried. this is the reason i read harry potter 7 the day of, and the day after... to avoid getting the spoiler headlines.

              anyways, sorry it got spoiled for you. it wasn't the greatest show ever, i liked bravo's top chef better.

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          AMFM Nov 20, 2007 05:36 AM

          in case you want to see what he has to say...

          http://symonsays.typepad.com/symon_sa...

          1. steve h. Nov 19, 2007 03:48 PM

            i'm ok with symon's laugh. makes him seem pretty normal. all-in-all a regular guy. besh was ok, too. i miss chris cosentino because his food really works for me. incanto, in sf's noe valley, is really special.

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              alkapal Nov 20, 2007 01:43 AM

              i just saw another thread that says tony bourdain cited incanto as one of his top restaurants there in SF, along with swan oyster depot.

            2. NYCkaren Nov 19, 2007 12:51 PM

              I thought both chefs' food looked great last night. I love liver and would kill to try Symon's "turducken." And I thought the way he dropped the egg and knocked over the drink made for good entertainment.

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                melly Nov 19, 2007 02:31 PM

                I like Symon's laugh. He won fair and square. Julia Child used to drop stuff and knock stuff over all the time..so what. We all do it.

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                  Phaedrus Nov 19, 2007 02:47 PM

                  But, but, but, he's an Iron Chef! He should be perfect!!!!!!

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                    in_wonderment Nov 19, 2007 05:05 PM

                    godlike even.

                    requirements for iron chef:
                    cook good food
                    don't spill stuff
                    no weird laughs
                    optional: look good or have a nice personality

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                  kenito799 Nov 20, 2007 03:49 AM

                  YES, that turducken dish looked fantastic! I agree with the judge (chef at Butter, Guarnascelli?), I love liver and I don't care about people who don't. Symon must know her and what she likes. I think here and in the Besh finale battle he tried to make dishes that would mesh with the judges' personal tastes (e.g. Greek sauce for Cat Cora, spicy fish for Bobby Flay).

                  Moore did really well so I was a bit worried because I like Symon and wanted him to win...but Symon's stuff looked so delicious and innovative, I think he affirmed his rightful role as Iron Chef. I like how he often makes a drink.

                3. Withnail42 Nov 19, 2007 09:51 AM

                  But isn't Symon good friends with one of the judges who made him an Iron Chef?

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                    MMRuth Nov 19, 2007 09:55 AM

                    Well, since the judges were, for the final competition, three Iron Chefs, and even before that, Ruhlmann was only one of three judges, I find it hard to see how Ruhlman "made him an Iron Chef".

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                      AMFM Nov 19, 2007 11:42 AM

                      and these were classic ICA judges last night. 26/30 for taste is pretty good. 14/15 for originality too.

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                        MysticYoYo Nov 19, 2007 11:55 AM

                        I've liked Symon since he was on "Melting Pot". He is darned cute, too. Then again, Besh is also pretty cute.

                        Yes, I am shallow.

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                          in_wonderment Nov 19, 2007 12:11 PM

                          well mystic, since we cant taste the food... i think its only fair to choose on looks :)

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                            MysticYoYo Nov 19, 2007 11:18 PM

                            ^5's You :)

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                        jlafler Nov 19, 2007 03:36 PM

                        I think you parsed that sentence incorrectly. The way I read it, "who made him an Iron Chef" modifies "the judges" not "one [of the judges]."

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                          MMRuth Nov 19, 2007 03:37 PM

                          You are absolutely right - my parsing was poor! My apologies to Withnail42!

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                      HungryLetsEat Nov 19, 2007 05:01 AM

                      He seemed very nervous - as evidenced by dropping the poached egg and knocking over the drink. I think he'll be fun to watch and I like the food that he's presented so far. I don't mind his laugh at all.

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                        bubbles4me Nov 19, 2007 08:58 AM

                        I thought his dishes looked quite impressive with quite a bit of thought put into them, texture, flavor etc....but I have to agree with the OP on the laughing thing, nervous gigglers make me cringe.

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                        Bunson Nov 18, 2007 10:14 PM

                        I thought Chef Symon was fine tonight for his first battle. Like Alton said both chefs were a bit quiet tonight, but were responsive when asked questions. I'm sure as he gets more comfortable he's going to be more relaxed - just look at how intense Bobby Flay was when he first started out. His laugh/giggle I like because it seems geniune. It's not a fake "made for TV" laugh or smile that seems so rampant on the Food Network nowadays.

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                          pitu Nov 19, 2007 11:52 AM

                          uh oh . . . did I miss something?
                          I didn't realize they did an ICA with him already . . .

                          spinach,
                          since "first and foremost" you want to talk about Besh, switch your TV to the Sundance Ch and watch him on an upcoming Iconoclasts show and post about that.
                          That's a misleading headline you wrote . . .

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                            PlomeekSoup Nov 19, 2007 04:13 PM

                            Symon cracks me up, and even reminds me of a good friend (also named Michael) who looks just like him. I really enjoyed him throughout the Next Iron Chef competition, and I'm glad he won (I think he has better entertainment value than Besh). I'm thrilled he won his first ICA competition, and loved that even though he was dropping eggs and tipping champagne over, he stayed focused and got the job done.

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                              heathermb Nov 20, 2007 07:39 AM

                              I think he knocked over that glass b/c he's not used to wearing long sleeves when he cooks, let alone those giant cuffs! Can't really blame him and he handled it well.

                          2. Caroline1 Nov 18, 2007 07:38 PM

                            Gee, I'll trade you 500 Paula Deen laughs for ONE Symon giggle!

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                              Phaedrus Nov 18, 2007 07:48 PM

                              500 Paula Deen laighs, thats like half a show's worth right? Depends on if she is loaded or not.

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                                Cat Chow Nov 19, 2007 08:50 AM

                                Paula Deen doesn't laugh...she cackles!

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                                AMFM Nov 18, 2007 06:23 PM

                                i happen to like him because i've met him and it's SO unaffected and really a part of his warm personality - but i can see where it could come off strangely on tv. either way you have to give him some props since that meal rocked tonight. yummy. and those are picky judges and they were giving good comments too.

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                                  spinach Nov 18, 2007 08:43 PM

                                  sorry, i liked chef moore's selections more than symons....not a huge liver fan.

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                                    AMFM Nov 19, 2007 05:35 AM

                                    but to me an IC is supposed to be innovative and take risks. personally i'd probably rather eat the other too but i think MS looked appropriately iron chef-y. and it obviously tasted good.

                                    1. re: spinach
                                      Cat Chow Nov 19, 2007 08:51 AM

                                      I was intrigued by both and would have enjoyed both, but I would have given the win to Moore.

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                                        MMRuth Nov 19, 2007 08:52 AM

                                        I'm guessing that he's turkey being tough/described as "shoe leather" in one dish might have handed it to Symon. Loved the look of Symon's food.

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                                          Cat Chow Nov 19, 2007 09:45 AM

                                          I think so too...

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