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<topic>
  <id>461175</id>
  <title>30" American Range</title>
  <published_at>Fri Nov 16 06:27:03 -0800 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>13</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>41</id>
    <name>Cookware</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>3130360</id>
        <content>Any feedback on the new 30" American Residential Ranges? 

We are in the middle of a buyback with Wolf for a defective range and looking at a replacement.  Any info. is helpful.  Thanks,
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        <published_at>Fri Nov 16 06:27:03 -0800 2007</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>143381</id>
          <name>65tang</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3198514</id>
      <content>Answering my own post...we went ahead and researched this range and decided to order.  I will post more once it is installed and we are using it. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Dec 11 10:20:44 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3130360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>143381</id>
        <name>65tang</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3256263</id>
      <content>I would LOVE to hear anything you have to say about the american range.  We are looking to buy the 36" with grill.  We've had viking and wolf, but don't want to spend so much this next time around. Thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 03 06:30:26 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3198514</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>154324</id>
        <name>dmsass</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3271160</id>
      <content>We love the new range!  It was installed the week before Christmas and was used non stop for most of the weekend prior.  It was a champ! 

The American was less than the Wolf and there are many things that it has that the Wolf didn't that I like.  The ss top is a breeze to clean - I hated the porcelain black on the Wolf.  The knobs don't have stop points like the Wolf did...you can easily adjust the flame.  There are indicator lights on each of the burners and the oven so you can see what is on.  The oven is huge!  The burners have performed great!

I'm sure there is more - I would easily buy this range again!  Be glad to answer any questions you might have. 
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      <published_at>Mon Jan 07 15:40:24 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3256263</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>143381</id>
        <name>65tang</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3312445</id>
      <content>Hi - we're considering getting the 30" American Range. I've been trying to read up on it online, but I haven't been able to find too many consumer reviews on the internet. I've looked at it a few times in the store &amp; read the material on the American Range site - what sort of research did you do? And did you get any accessories with it?

Basically, any info you'd like to share would be appreciated. Thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 19 14:48:47 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3271160</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>158897</id>
        <name>inarges</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3318606</id>
      <content>I did go see the range at the distributor's location. So I asked lots of questions there.  I also contacted American directly and got even more info.  I contacted another owner and chatted w/him on the phone for quite some time.  I continue to be pleased with this range and am so happy to report it is trouble free!  

We got the leg caps and the island riser.  We are looking at getting the panels painted in a bit.  But I may get the removable griddle one of these days.  

There are a few owners posting on garden web in the appliance forum - do a search for american there, that may help too.  

Good luck.
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      <published_at>Mon Jan 21 18:09:35 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3312445</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>143381</id>
        <name>65tang</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5139839</id>
      <content>RUN THE OTHER WAY AND DON'T BUY AN AMERICAN RANGE!! We researched and then bought the 30" and it has never worked correctly.  Bought it from Dvorson's on 12/21/07, shipped to us 3/17/08, but due to renovation delays not installed for months. Once we tried to use it we started reporting terrible problems.  Front heats up to over 128 degrees which has burned us and company.  Stove heats totally unevenly, with or without convection on, front left burner leaks gas as well as the oven which can be smelled out in our apartment hallway and the oven sides are so hot that they are burning our custom cabinets which also can be smelled throughout our apartment and into the hallway.  At first they, American Range, seemed concerned and replaced the stove front door twice but told us smelling gas was normal and denied that the repairman had reported uneven cooking.  The front still heats up hot enough to burn you if you touch it. We have been calling weekly and the VP won't return our calls.  They have sent out a repairman at least 6 times but he has said from the beginning that he can't fix the stove.  About a month ago they told the repair man to come back and put more insulation around the stove even though he keeps telling him that won't solve the problem or any of the other problems.  They told him they would have their engineers research what type of insulation etc and they have never even called him back.  Months ago the VP finally said he agreed that the stove had to be replaced but after weekly calls from us after about a month he said the President of the company refused to replace the stove.  He is the one who said just have the repairman stuff more insulation around the stove. THEY ARE SIMPLY NOT RESPONDING AND RUNNING AWAY FROM US.  Don't buy an American Range!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 29 07:16:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3198514</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1120085</id>
        <name>vahiggins</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5142666</id>
      <content>For every brand of range out there, there's someone who's had a bad experience, felt they got the shaft from the dealer/mfr and then goes all over to shrilly exclaim that no one should ever buy that brand.  First and only post(s), etc.

I've seen this a lot with Bluestar over the years. And I feel for you, in particular regarding the gas leaks. That's something that, if it is really leaking when the range is off, is a real safety hazard.  On the other hand, if it's fugitive gas when a burner or the oven is firing up, that to me isn't as big a deal.

Regarding the outside temperature of the oven door, IIRC, UL allows up to 180 degrees F.  This is basically where you can touch it and right away know it's hot and pull away without being burned (i.e. temp over 212F).  At 128F, you aren't even close (that's hot tap water temperature in a lot of homes). You also shouldn't get burned unless you touch and hold against the hot surface for a long time (say a few seconds).

Temperature against the cabinets I believe is allowed to be in the same range. That's presuming you purchased the residential version (commercial requires an air gap on both sides).  If your custom cabinets include MDF or particle board in the sidewalls, you could simply be hastening the evaporation of the VOCs in the glue holding them together. If you're seeing scorching, well that's a different story.

I'd be interested to hear how you quantify the unevenness in the oven.

Anyway, best of luck getting your issues resolved.
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      <published_at>Fri Oct 30 07:54:39 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5139839</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12626</id>
        <name>ted</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3487138</id>
      <content>Well, we did it - have had this stove for about a month now, and I absolutely LOVE it! I've never had anything but "landlord specials" and the dirty old thing that was in our house when we moved in, so I certainly can't compare it to any of the other pro-quality stoves, but I don't think I could ever go back, now.

I think they raised the price right after we got ours, too.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 12 18:00:31 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3130360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>158897</id>
        <name>inarges</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3620531</id>
      <content>That's a commercial range, not one for residential use.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 22 17:34:44 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3615208</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>170353</id>
        <name>dscheidt</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3618011</id>
      <content>Hey 65tang,
   What happened to your Wolf?  
I have narrowed down to Viking or Wolf myself.
They both look fabulous.
What type of Wolf did you have AG, Dual Fuel and please, may I ask what went wrong and how old is your Wolf?
Many thanks, I am to buy in less than 2 weeks. 

Many thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 22 06:55:19 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3130360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>179406</id>
        <name>scotlandyard</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4531970</id>
      <content>Hi 65tang,
How is the American Range still going after  1 1/2 years? I am considering the 36". Thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Mar 23 19:34:40 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3130360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>276876</id>
        <name>Karlson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5139856</id>
      <content>Hi Karison,
Not sure if you bought an American Range but if you haven't DON'T.  Ours has never worked, is dangerous due to front heating up so hot it can burn you, oven heats totally unevenly, stove leaks gas, and is burning our custom cabinets on each side.  American Range won't even return our calls or the calls of their repairman here in NYC.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 29 07:20:18 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4531970</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1120085</id>
        <name>vahiggins</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5189932</id>
      <content>We purchased a 36" American Range (AR12G-4B) online about a year and a half ago for our restaurant in NYC and we love it. I've owned Wolf and this is built and performs just as well. I'd recommend to anyone, and often do!
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      <published_at>Tue Nov 17 16:29:41 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5139856</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>161111</id>
        <name>Marsala</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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