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Nov 15, 2007 09:13 AM

Dogfish Head

Made the trip to Dogfish Head brewery in Milton and brewpub in Del beach.

Truly the greatest pilgrimage to a beer-dorks Mecca. It was just flat out awesome. Their beers are so off the hook good, its just silly.

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  1. Weyerbacher should be your next stop. Don't know if you'll be as impressed but their "Eleven" DIPA got my personal "regional beer of the year" award. They are located in Easton, Pennsylvania.

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    1. re: Chinon00

      Weyerbacher has really made great strides in the last few years. I really like their Double Simcoe.

      1. re: brentk

        For clearly over-the-top beer, they are tops in the region.

    2. Thanks for the suggestion. I do have them high on my list of visits. It will be hard to live up to the Dogfish though.

      Came back with a truckful:
      - last of what they had of punkin
      - case of 120 minutes
      - case of pangaeas
      - case of world wide stouts
      - case of chicory stout

      best part was the rarities they had on tap.

      chinoon- impressed with your beer knowledge and opinions, are you out of the philly area? respect your opinion.

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      1. re: yankeefan

        A case of World Wide Stouts.......

        All I can say is wow. How much did that run if you don't mind me asking?

        Also if you like Pumpkins try to get your hands on the Southern Tier Pumking. It is the best of the lot in my opinion

        1. re: MVNYC

          A case is only 8, but good God are those beers legit. Actually had from tap there the heaven and hell which is a black/tan of WWS and 120. The case of 8 ran $70 I believe - my intention is to age but I have a feeling that wont last too long. Do they have the WWS in NYC where I assume you are?

          I agree with the pumpking, it is my 2nd favorite behind the DF punkin. Its one of the few that isnt overpowered with pie spices and cloves. I really cant wait to get back down to Delaware.

          1. re: yankeefan

            That sounds like one black and tan and lights out. They had Dogfish head night at Blind Tiger a while back and I was mixing the beers as well. 90 minute out of the Randall mixed with Olde School Barley wine was a definite winner there.

            World Wide Stout is available up here, i think $8 a 12oz. It is good but not something i would drink regularly. With the cold weather though, it is a good time for one.

            1. re: MVNYC

              Lights out is right.

              DFH beers lend well to the combos- not a big fan of the barleywine but sounds interesting. My favorite to this point is the punkin/indian brown and Im going to try the punkin/chicory combo tonight. Of course the old standby of the 75 minute - 60/90 combo

              1. re: MVNYC

                finally had a red and white at blind tiger two nights ago. it's still haunting me.

                1. re: TBird

                  Good to know. I picked up two of those in TX and am greatly looking forward to sampling.

              2. re: yankeefan

                Yankeefan - if you like Dogfish that much, keep your eye on the Artisanal Cheese center's website for classes. We went to a Dogfish event there in October (and maybe they'll do another one). They served 8 of their beers (and served and served and served...) along with cheese pairings selected by Artisanal. It was really awesome. The Dogfish rep there did most of the talking about how they make it, etc.

                1. re: LNG212

                  Im looking forward to getting down there for several events.

                  Ive read his book, and Business Week has a good article this month:


                  Makes you feel good about drinking this beer and paying the premium. Well done Sam.

            2. re: yankeefan

              I do my best. Yes from Philadelphia. If you visit Weyerbacher what has sort of been their thing recently is beer on wood. For instance they've put 3 of their ales on wood (Heresy - Imperial stout, Prophecy - Abbey triple, and Blasphemy - Quadrupel) and one barley wine (Insanity). I was not at all a fan of wood aged beer until a tasted Weyerbacher's versions. There is no overwhelming vanilla-wood taste like I've had from some other breweries. These I think are all seasonals so get 'em while they are around.


            3. of the ones i've tried so far the d'etre is what got me on board and the 120min ipa made me skeptical (just toooo bitter) and the immort ale brought me right back. but with the immort it could be the canadian in me ;)

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              1. re: pinstripeprincess

                I had the Immort Ale tonight. I really liked it. I got everything described on the label: "maple, vanilla & oak". But I also got noticeable smoke and booze.

                Another unique offering from Dogfish Head.

                1. re: Chinon00

                  That and Aprihop are the two that I have not tried as of yet but am really looking forward to- Im sure it was good.

                  The maple flavor supposedly really comes through, which Im positive Ill enjoy.
                  As far as Aprihop, any thing advertised as intensely hoppy with apricot undertones has me drooling.

                  WWS, 90 minute, and fedex mild still my top DFH offerings. Not many I dont like.

                  1. re: yankeefan

                    Fedex mild is a "wet" hopped AIPA? I've only had one wet hopped beer (Victory Braumeister Harvest Pils). There is nothing like a wet hopped beer.

                    1. re: yankeefan

                      Aprihop is one of the best fruit beers I've tasted. It's helped along by the fact that the fruit flavors taste natural (unlike the cough drop taste in, say, Samuel Adams Cherry Wheat) and subtle -- the apricot it not heavy-handed. Also it has a ton of hops, and some of that delicious maltiness that is also evident in DFH's stronger 90-Minute IPA.

                2. Speaking on Weyerbacher again, I purchased both the Heresy (oak aged imperial stout) and Blasphemy (oak aged quadrupel). Short review(s):

                  Heresy - I admit that due to the style (and the oak) I was expecting something like World Wide Stout or Storm King Stout (i.e.:far from subtle; crashing waves). But Heresy wasn't as stark or as deep. Instead of crashing waves think of thinner quieter ones reaching shore each one bringing something different: coffee, vanilla, cocoa, whiskey, tar . . . It reminded me instead of Harviestoun's "Old Engine Oil" (which is a very good thing).

                  Blasphemy: What you would expect from a Quad on wood; sticky, toffee, cola, candy, vanilla and whiskey. Interesting but it wouldn't be my first choice. Note: 11.8% alcohol by volume.

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                  1. re: Chinon00

                    In terms of heresy, nothing is really as dark as what you have mentioned.

                    I just scored some Goose Island County Bourbon Stout and Founders Breakfast Stout that I cant WAIT to enjoy this weekend. May not make it that long, in the meantime, Im enjoying many a Chicory and Mad Elfs.

                    I would like to try Blasphemy. Just picked up some Old Heathen, havent tried yet but looking forward to as well.

                    1. re: yankeefan

                      I visited the Weyerbacher brewery in Easton, PA today (a modest setup). They do sales, tours and tastings on Saturdays between 12 and 3. Anyway, I brought home a mixed case of: blithering idiot (barleywine), old heathen (imperial stout), merry monks (abbey dubbel), winter ale and house ale. The old heathen I describe as a "breakfast beer" (i.e. profound cocoa and roasted coffee). And the mouthfeel was rounder and light and sort of milky (not very "hot" or very inky [for an imperial]). The winter ale was also surprisingly good and the house ale is their version of a "session" beer. I'm sure that you are familiar with their abbey dubbel and barleywine (big and biggest).
                      I got a moment with one of the guys who worked there and asked "why no Pilsner?" He went on to explain the money aspect of brewing lagers (longer hold times required for lagers = less profit) and he also mentioned the creative limits of lagers versus ale. But in doing so he (to me) sort of derided lager. And again to me brewing lager really proves that you have chops as a brewer. To me brewing lager is sort of like singing "a cappella" where as when brewing ales there is some "accompaniment" (i.e rich and funky esters).

                      1. re: Chinon00

                        Brewing lagers and drinking lagers are two different things.

                        I understand the both the economics and the technical issues involved. (There is also the matter of different yeast strains and making sure they do not somehow co-mingle.)

                        But I would rather drink an ale than a lager six days out of seven. I like a good pilsner or a doppelbock every now and again but I would get pretty bored if that was all there was.

                        1. re: brentk

                          Yes, I've heard that before from folks. I like to draw an analogy between lager and ale, and white and red wine. I used to work at a wine store where we did tastings. And most days at least one customer would say (if offered say a taste of Sancerre or other white) "oh, I don't drink white wine". The reason that they'd provide mostly was that white wine didn't have enough flavor for them. Then one day a customer came in who was very eager to taste and particularly the whites. He commented "ya know for years I used to only drink red but now I'm really starting to appreciate white wine a lot more". One of our senior employees responded to him "that is because your palate is becoming more focused".

                          1. re: Chinon00

                            Great observation, and I couldn't agree more. It's always seemed strange to me when people will close off their palates to certain things based on ill-informed expectations. I know wine drinkers who have said they don't like red/white/rose, and their rationale for this position is always based on having had one or two bad experiences with those varieties. I've had plenty of crap whites and roses, but the good ones are amazing.

                            Similarly, when I've heard some craft and homebrew types talk about lager, they often seem to regard its more subtle flavor profile as a detriment. But what I like about well-made lagers is how much more the interplay of malt and hops are emphasized when you don't have such estery yeasts involved. Amber and dark lagers particularly can have such great toasted/roasted flavors, without the ale fruitiness.

                            1. re: Josh

                              I would agree completely. While I definitely enjoy ales more than lagers they are different experiences. The clean profiles you get from a good lager can really showcase good hops and malt. Brooklyn Lager and Bluepoint Toasted Lager are both staples. There are some times when I just want a toasty clean lager.

                              As to white wines, I can see your point as well. It took me a lot longer to get into whites than it did to reds but I would have to say I even prefer a good white nowadays

                        2. re: Chinon00

                          I was actually heading to attend the same brew tour up there yesterday but got stuck raking leaves and didnt get done in time. Ill probably be up there next saturday for the tour. Funny coincidence.

                          I actually just picked up a six of old heathen earlier in the week and found it quite good, I think youll definitely like it if you havent tried yet.

                          As far as the fedex and the wet hopped method, its all thats advertised. Between that and getting some 90 minute through the randall makes the trip all worth it.

                        3. re: yankeefan

                          Founders Breakfast Stout is the one coffee-infused stout I've tasted (I've tried a lot of them, since I love both coffee and stout) that really works -- where the coffee tastes good for one thing, and melds well with the malt flavors.

                      2. I have to admit this is one of the best craft breweries in America. I'm a Californian, so we don't get Dogfish beers out west, but I'll always leave a little extra room in my bag when I visit friends on the east coast to bring back some Dogfish beers. I had the World Wide Stout a few days ago. Have to say, probably one of the best (if not the best) stout I have ever had.

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                        1. re: shellshock24

                          I was actually down there again just before the new year, there is nothing quite like the WW stout on tap. Truly a pleasure.

                          Cant wait for the Aprihop to come out.

                          1. re: yankeefan

                            Wondering if you've had Old Rasputin Russian Imperial on tap or otherwise? I had it on tap last weekend. Towering! How would you compare it to WW stout (if you've had it).

                            1. re: Chinon00

                              Not sure if the question is directed towards me, but since North Coast is a California brewery, I assume me. I really like RIS, which is why i'm not a 100% sure I would say WWS is my favorite stout. I like the hoppiness of RIS, but I also enjoy the sweetness of WWS a lot. It's a toss up, but since I can't get WWS whenever I want, I would say WWS is the best stout I have ever had, largely because I know it would be such an effort for me to try it again. By the way, I had a bottled RIS.

                              1. re: Chinon00

                                WWS is about 20% alcohol by volume, about 2X as strong as a typical RIS. Like many DFH big beers, I find it boozy and unattenuated (sweet from unfermented sugars) and prefer an Old Rasputin.

                            2. re: shellshock24

                              The Emeryville Trader Joe's used to sell several of the Dogfish Head beers.

                              1. re: Kenji

                                Really? I used to live in Emeryville, never saw it there. Plus, I thought because of distribution laws that its technically illegal to sell beer in a state if it doesn't go through a distributor (and there are no DFH distributors in CA)? Just wondering when you saw it. Thanks!

                                1. re: shellshock24

                                  From about '00 to '03, I was buying DFH beers at the Emeryville TJ's. Really. It was my first enconter with them. At the time, no one else in the area (that I knew of) was carrying them.

                                  1. re: Kenji

                                    Either way, looks like its officially coming (back?) to California;