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Decent Pizza in JP?

maillard Nov 14, 2007 08:10 AM

Is there any good or even decent pizza in JP? A friend of mine has gotten tired of trying places and being disappointed/disgusted. I'm not sure where he's tried so far. Definitely Bella Luna and Doyle's, not sure where else, but quite a few.

Nobody should have to live without pizza... Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

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    autopi RE: maillard Nov 14, 2007 09:21 AM

    people on the board seem to have passionate and deeply held religious convictions about what constitutes great pizza and where you can get it.

    for instance, i think bella luna's pizza is actually quite good. certainly not "disgusting." on the other hand, i really do not get the fuss about the pizza at galleria umberto.

    anyway, my 3 places for pizza in jp are 1) dogwood cafe, 2) bella luna, and 3) same old place (i've only gotten slices there, i'm told the whole pies are not so good.)

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      maillard RE: autopi Nov 14, 2007 11:13 AM

      Right. I probably should've worded my post a bit more carefully given the passionate feelings that people have about pizza (myself included!).

      Neither of the places I listed were the ones deemed 'disgusting'. I figured best to leave those ones anonymous. :) Same Old Place was the other one I know he tried.

      Dogwood sounds promising. Thanks everyone for the suggestions so far.

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      TheScribe RE: maillard Nov 14, 2007 09:29 AM

      Same Old Place! It rocks.

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        skc RE: maillard Nov 14, 2007 09:36 AM

        My fiancee and I are on a similar quest to find decent JP pizza. So far we've come up empty, settling for just adequate pizza.

        Bella Luna is fine, but expensive. Dogwood is good too, but too far away for us. Same Old Place is fine. Our go-to place is Brescia (near the Stop and Shop), mostly because they're inexpensive and they deliver, although they seem to go out of their way to make their pizza as unremarkable as possible (I think it comes from a franchise kit) and their pricing changes with the weather.

        Its actually kind of criminal, the quality of the pizza in JP. I would be all over a good, high quality place. Thankfully, there are other places that fill the takeout junk food niche nicely (I'm lookin at you La Pupusa Guanaca).

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          Bostonbob3 RE: maillard Nov 14, 2007 10:26 AM

          I like The Dogwood's Cafe, and Forest Hills Pizza (right up the block) makes a superior Greek pizza. They just reopened after a horrible fire.

          1. hiddenboston RE: maillard Nov 14, 2007 10:32 AM

            How's the pizza at the Pleasant Cafe in nearby Roslindale? I've been there for Italian food, but never for their pizza.

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              Joanie RE: hiddenboston Nov 14, 2007 10:42 AM

              It's good, flat floppy crust, more tomato sauce than I prefer but the style that most people enjoy.

              Hiddenboston is posting from the future still I see.

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                hiddenboston RE: Joanie Nov 14, 2007 10:49 AM

                Uh, what? :-D

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                  Joanie RE: hiddenboston Nov 14, 2007 11:56 AM

                  The posting times are still an hour ahead on the board.

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                    hiddenboston RE: Joanie Nov 14, 2007 12:04 PM

                    So I guess that means it's ok for me to shut down for the day right now. Excellent! Have a good night, everybody!

                    Just to get back to the OP, I actually like the bar pies that they serve at Doyle's. Not the best in town, but I would certainly get it again.

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                      Prav RE: hiddenboston Nov 14, 2007 12:41 PM

                      Wait, it's not Saturday?!

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                        twentyoystahs RE: Prav Nov 14, 2007 12:45 PM

                        I second Same Old Place (for slices) and Dogwood Cafe. I ordered a small cheese pizza from Bella Luna recently and was really disappointed. It was fairly flavorless. I think the bar pizzas at Doyles are pretty good too, esp if you actually sit at the bar and order a beer or two ;)

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                          MB fka MB RE: twentyoystahs Nov 14, 2007 05:12 PM

                          more often than not, I concur with nearly all of twentyoystahs suggestions, but here's what I have to say about (even just) good pizza in JP:

                          It doesn't exist.

                          I tried Dogwood a couple of times (the first time it was blah and then I tried the "extra crispy" on the second order, again, kind of blah) and slices from Same Old Place were eaten because I was starving. Didn't care much for Bella Luna either. Refused to try Zesto's. When I lived in JP this year (I just moved to Brooklyn), I would wait for a jaunt to the North End or to Cambridge (Armando's or Pinocchio's) for pizza.

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                            twentyoystahs RE: MB fka MB Nov 14, 2007 06:21 PM

                            MB, well, more often than not, i concurred with your suggestions. Looks like I will have to resort to Brooklyn suggestions now when I find myself in the city.....not that it's a bad resort, as Brooklyn has some amazing eateries...including supposedly first-class pizza....
                            And speaking of pizza, I do agree that there are no standouts in JP. I was merely mentioning what I thought was passable. That being said, i haven't had a Dogwood or Doyles pizza in over a yr, and Same Old Place slices are only reserved for when I'm really starving for a slice and I can't get outta JP.....

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                              MB fka MB RE: twentyoystahs Nov 15, 2007 05:59 AM

                              I think what made me mad about the pizza situation in JP was that if I was going to "cheat" on my training diet (which lately had been happening more often than not!), I wanted pizza that was worth the calories and none of the JP options were it for me.

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                              digga RE: MB fka MB Nov 14, 2007 06:47 PM

                              Dude, WTF?! You will be missed....good eats in Brooklyn, though, so I feel worse for Boston than for you!

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                                yumyum RE: MB fka MB Nov 15, 2007 10:01 AM

                                Yeah. What digga said. You moved? Who told you you could move?

                  2. re: hiddenboston
                    Science Chick RE: hiddenboston Nov 14, 2007 12:53 PM

                    I've always really enjoyed Pleasant Cafe. Nice flavor to both the crust and the sauce, and the crust is pretty crisp/thin. Ask them to cook it well done to avoid Joanie's reported floppiness.

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                      hiddenboston RE: Science Chick Nov 14, 2007 06:22 PM

                      Guess where I just came back from: Pleasant Cafe! :-D I used to go there every now and then awhile back, but had never tried their pizza. Well, tonight we tried it, and it was really good. It reminded me a bit of the pizza at The Paddock in Somerville, though the bottom of the crust was a bit too greasy for my liking, and I think I like the crust at The Paddock better overall. But I really liked the pizza, and thought the sauce was especially nice. I didn't ask for it well-done, but probably should have.

                      By the way, the drink list looked almost as old as the place itself. I had a Rob Roy because I've heard it seems to go particularly well with pepperoni pizza (chortle).

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                        veeva RE: hiddenboston Nov 15, 2007 03:37 AM

                        Can you describe Pleasant Cafe's pizza a bit more? Thin? Thick? A lot of sauce? Is the sauce seasoned or relatively simple? Sorry to ask so many questions, but I'm always disappointed with a pizza that has piles of over-seasoned sauce (so it squishes out when you take a bite). I'm looking for something simple along the lines of Regina's - aren't we all?

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                          hiddenboston RE: veeva Nov 15, 2007 05:00 AM

                          It's a thin-crust pizza that, as Joanie says, is more floppy than crisp, and more greasy than similar pizzas (The Paddock, Bianchi's, etc.). The sauce is seasoned, but not overly so, IMO, and it does have a good amount of sauce, though perhaps not as much as Santarpio's.

                          It's a fairly simple pizza, and they have been making it there for a long time (though last night was the first time I had it, as I've only gotten their pastas, veal, etc. in the past).

                          I really liked it, though I'm not sure whether you would or not, since it may have more sauce (and more "zest") than you like. If you try it, definitely let us know what you think.

                          BTW, the waitresses have been at Pleasant Cafe forever, and the woman who waited on us last night was one of the nicest persons you could ever meet. My GF and I chatted with her for a good amount of time about everything under the sun, from the weather to family to the holidays and so on. I've seen my share of surly, uncaring, unsmiling waiters and waitresses over the past year, and it's really refreshing to have someone like her wait on us.

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                          Science Chick RE: hiddenboston Nov 15, 2007 03:58 AM

                          If you ever venture back, try their fried clam plate. Whole bellies, beautifully done and usually quite a bargain IIFC.

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                        Pegmeister RE: hiddenboston Nov 15, 2007 08:00 AM

                        The Pleasant Cafe has pretty decent pizza. Thin crust, oily and more of a bar pie. I prefer the Dogwood's pizza though, and they have more variety.

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                        haschen RE: maillard Nov 15, 2007 07:10 AM

                        so does pizza oggi still exist? granted, i have been there in a couple years, but i remember the pizza being quite good. it is/was around the corner from bella luna.

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                          TheScribe RE: haschen Nov 15, 2007 07:12 AM

                          Pizza Oggi rocks! They now have a location at the Holyoke Center arcade, Harvard Square.

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                            haschen RE: TheScribe Nov 15, 2007 07:22 AM

                            holy crap! harvard square just got better! :) i didn't even know and i live out thattaway.

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                              Bostonbob3 RE: TheScribe Nov 16, 2007 05:07 AM

                              Not a big fan of Oggi's crust. It's very un-chewy. And I personally like a crust with good chew. Except for the occasional Greek pizza foray, of course.

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                                skc RE: Bostonbob3 Nov 16, 2007 12:45 PM

                                Pizza Oggi in JP is long gone. I agree with Bostonbob -- the crust was kind of weird. The toppings were good, if I recall.

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