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Densible Nov 12, 2007 09:13 AM

My sister lives in Florida and sent me this article and wants to know "Are you people really likes this?"

Interested in your thoughts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/mag...

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  1. garvanza girl RE: Densible Nov 12, 2007 10:30 AM

    Um... no. Raw foods, Pinks, and cupcake mania aren't exactly a big part of my life as an Angeleno.

    Also have to question the assertion that "Los Angeles is more abundant with wildly popular and totally pervasive fattening foods than perhaps any other American city." As someone who prefers simply prepared food with healthful ingredients, I tend to have an easier time finding things to eat here in L.A. than I do when I travel.

    1. aching RE: Densible Nov 12, 2007 10:41 AM

      In my opinion, this is a puff piece and not worthy of the NY Times' usually very high journalistic standards. First of all, with regard to the guests who demanded that their diets be catered to and who "recoiled" from the food they were served - that's just plain rude, and while there are plenty of rude people in LA, I don't think we have the monopoly on rudeness. If memory serves, there's lots of rude going around New York as well, and, I would imagine, everywhere else too! Secondly, it's ridiculous to try to generalize about what an entire city - especially one as huge as LA - eats. Like Garvanza Girl, I don't fixate on raw foods, Pink's, or cupcakes - although I've had all three on occasion (but not all in the same meal). But in my experience it's easier to find a good salad in LA than any other city I've lived in or visited. Whether or not you choose to order a salad - well, that's up to you! Bottom line is, IMHO, this article was a product of yet another New Yorker who loves to hate LA. Yes, we wear T-shirts and flip-flops in January. Get over it.

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        slacker RE: Densible Nov 12, 2007 10:51 AM

        We're not all in the Industry either. So sick of that portrayal.
        Poor New Yorkers, can't get avacados easily.

        1. Caroline1 RE: Densible Nov 12, 2007 11:17 AM

          I can not believe anyone would actually send a note like that covering diet restrictions and don't-likes and expect to be welcome! But it's delicious to think about sending a note back saying, "I can't cook like that so please feel free to bring your own dinner and use my microwave to heat it up." I'm so wicked! '-)

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            jlafler RE: Caroline1 Nov 12, 2007 11:38 AM

            I agree with you about the crassness of the list. But if you did have a severe food allergy, and someone you didn't know well invited you over for dinner, how would you handle it?

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              Elizzie RE: jlafler Nov 12, 2007 03:15 PM

              I do have a severe food allergy (to all shellfish), so I usually let my hosts know that with a simple, "Oh, I'd love to join you! Fair warning, I'm completely allergic to shellfish."
              And I always ask people if they have allergies (or if they're vegetarians) when I invite.

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                jlafler RE: Elizzie Nov 12, 2007 03:43 PM

                That seems like a good way to bring up the subject. If I'm cooking for someone I've never cooked for before, I generally ask if they have any food restrictions or strong dislikes -- because what's the point of serving food that your guests can't eat or won't enjoy?

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                Caroline1 RE: jlafler Nov 12, 2007 06:10 PM

                The article says the list of "requirements" was unsolicited. I think it would be MUCH more courteous to just decline the invitation. That said, my personal practice is that when I invite someone for the first time, I ask if there are any foods they are allergic to or dislike before I plan my menu. If they arrive for dinner and THEN announce their allergy/ies after I have asked and they've withheld the information, well, they either skip the dish they're allergic to or swell up from eating it... Their choice!

                But I have to admit to being less and less tolerant of some people with food allergies under certain conditions... Last year I had houseguests -- atheles all -- and explained that I was planning on making pasta carbonarra for dinner (carbo loading), then went into detail on what is in it just to be sure no one had a problem with it. The wife (they were cyclists) said it was fine and off they went to Day 1 of their races. Then at dinner she claimed to be allergic to bacon, got up from the table and made herself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Ticked me off! Next time they come to town for a bike race, I hope she enjoys their hotel.

                On at least one occasion, when I knew ahead of time what the hostess was planning for dinner and I was allergic to it, instead of asking her to make something special just for me, I tactfully lied that we had something going on that would make it impossible for us to get there on time, but asked if it was okay if we came for after dinner coffee. Worked fine and the dessert was great.

                Guess I'm "old school," but I strongly believe guests have as much obligation to making a dinner successful as the host and/or hostess. Unfortunately there are people around today who seem totally unfamiliar with the concept. Or maybe I'm just a dyed-in-the-wool curmudgeon. '-)

            2. Akitist RE: Densible Nov 12, 2007 12:11 PM

              The article's so silly it really doesn't merit a rebuttal. Written for those who want to believe the worst about Angelenos, and what better vehicle than the Good Gray Times?

              1. Ruth Lafler RE: Densible Nov 12, 2007 01:38 PM

                Well, I can't disagree that it's a silly little puff piece, but to be fair, the author is quite clear that she's a talking about "Hollywood," which she is defining as "people in the industry" and not Los Angeles and Angelenos in general.

                And anyone who thinks LA is a hotbed of fattening food has never been to the South!

                1. redfox697 RE: Densible Nov 13, 2007 12:49 PM

                  This isn't the sole domain of LA, either. When I went to Michy's in Miami this past spring, I overheard a table of spoiled high-society wives ordering their first course, in which one of them ordered the Tuna Carpaccio salad (or something to that effect). The dish basically consisted of tuna, greens, fennel, and a garnish- she asked for it without the greens or fennel. The server replied, "So you would like a plate of raw tuna?" Upon hearing this, she appeared to feel mightily stupid (as she was), and her friends tried to coax her into ordering something else.

                  It just made me angry. Have an effing clue, people!

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