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Thinking of going to Keen's and have 2 questions

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sbouldin Nov 12, 2007 08:45 AM

1. I'm usually not one to feel ashamed when eating by myself, but I'll be in NYC for training and was wondering if I can pull this off at Keen's. I noticed that they have a pub, which I'm wondering would be more conducive to a single patron, although it doesn't have the same menu.

2. Which steak should I get? I've been reading that the mutton chop is a must have, but to be honest, I've never had that type of cut. I'm a big rib eye fan, but didn't see that on the menu.

Thanks in advance.

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    Hungry Esquire Nov 13, 2007 10:49 AM

    I agree with those who have recommended that if you go to Keens, you should get the mutton. It really is great. If you just want a good steak, there are, in my opinion, much better places to go. For example, I would recommend Sparks. They have a bar area with televisions, so you can sit by yourself, have an amazing steak, and catch whatever game is on at the same time. Just a thought.

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      snaporaz Nov 14, 2007 05:40 AM

      Be aware however, that Sparks does not serve any meat on the bone. Based on the first reply, I'm with JoanN and prefer a bone on my steak, chop etc...
      I really like Keens, and I think you can't go wrong with either the mutton chop or the prime rib (or the lamb chops for that matter).

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      RGR Nov 12, 2007 01:31 PM

      Actually, the dining room's menu is available in the Pub Room. However, you should not feel you need to avoid the main dining room just because you are solo. If that's where you prefer to sit, then go for it!

      If you're not sure about the sizable mutton chop -- which, btw, is actually lamb, not mutton -- you might want to consider the lamb chops. A favorite of mine and some of the best I've had anywhere. And the filet mignon is not too shabby either. Let me also suggest my favorite dessert: the coffee cantata. I'm drooling just typing the words! lol

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        mrnas Nov 12, 2007 01:40 PM

        OK, lets get this straight. Lamb is a young sheep. Mutton is an old sheep. There's a name for a medium-aged sheep but the name escapes me.

        Lamb is traditionally very tender, as the fat, muscles and connective tissue are not given a chance to grow. Mutton is gamier as the fat, muscles and tendons have been given a chance to grow. However, whatever you lose is texture you gain in taste, due to the growth of enzymes that give meat its particulat taste. Mutton is far tastier than lamb, though I wouldnt say that at a sophisticated party, but it is actually scientifically true.

        It amazes me how many people go to Keen's and pass on the Mutton. Its a dish that is AMAZING, and you can get barely anywhere else. Its a massive dish, so bring your appetit, and bring your rested muscles as a lot of work goesd into eating this meice of meat. A lot of cutting and manuevering involved.

        The standards such as filet, strip, etc are good there, but you can get the same quality at literally more than a hundered NY steakhouses. Get the Mutton and end it.

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          elecsheep9 Nov 12, 2007 01:49 PM

          Salad ain't got nuttin' on this mutton!

          Love keens.

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            JoanN Nov 12, 2007 02:13 PM

            I don't think RGR is unaware of the difference between mutton and lamb. The issue is that although Keen's has never changed the name of the dish they were so famous for, they admittedly are no longer able to buy quality mutton and so serve a saddle of lamb that they call mutton. Frank Bruni of the NYTimes tracked down the story a couple of years ago when he reviewed the restaurant. See the details here:

            http://events.nytimes.com/2005/12/14/...

        2. ssf36 Nov 12, 2007 10:58 AM

          As the others have said, there's no shame in dining alone in the dining room. Though if you do end up at the pub, the barbecued lamb sandwich is superb. I don't believe it's on the dining room menu. They also have one of the best Scotch menus in the city.

          1. financialdistrictresident Nov 12, 2007 09:55 AM

            Based on my experience it seems like there are always alot of people dining solo in NYC. I am often one of them. It's not like the suburbs, you have a lot of singles and business travellers here. I'm with spiritchaser, go for the dining room and enjoy!

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              sam1 Nov 12, 2007 09:06 AM

              you have to get the porterhouse...usually its for two but i think they can do it for one.

              the pub is great but it does get crowded with actual drinkers at times. ive found that the weekends are less crowded than weekdays.

              call ahead...theyre very accomodating.

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                sbouldin Nov 12, 2007 09:14 AM

                Is it even worth going then If I'm just going for the pub-version of their menu or is there another steak place that may be better suited. I'm just looking for a really good steak while I'm up there.

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                  Spiritchaser Nov 12, 2007 09:27 AM

                  If you are okay in general with dining alone then go to Keens, do the regular dining room. Why deny yourself the full affect?

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                    LDubs Nov 12, 2007 10:52 AM

                    Agreed! Do the regular dining room, gotta try the mutton chop. The Prime Rib is also fabulous. And a huge selection of single malt scotches too. What more do you need? Oh, can you tell this is one of my all-time favorite places to eat?

              2. JoanN Nov 12, 2007 08:53 AM

                You might well be more comfortable in the Pub. And yes, it is a different menu. For instance, you can get a burger in the pub but not in the main dining room. And most of the steaks are, I think, available only in the dining room. No, no rib eye. But the prime rib may be the best in the city. I'm a big fan of the porterhouse for two, but if I were a single I'd go for the t-bone. But then, I always prefer my meat with a bone. I just think it's tastier that way. The mutton chop is only a "must-have" if that really interests you. The lamb chops are winners also.

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