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C'mon is Nobu that bad?!

jessheslin Nov 10, 2007 03:23 PM

Hi I had a stellar omekase there many moons ago (10 years?) and have raved about it ever since. My hubby is just discovering japanese food and I have been his fine dining guide since we met 6 years ago. So we booked it for our anniversery dinner on 11/17. Will we really be miserable or is it possible to have a good time with cocktails, sake, omakase and dessert and 2 still lovestruck people???

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  1. eternalX RE: jessheslin Nov 10, 2007 03:31 PM

    No. Nobu is not bad at all. Many people love Nobu. I would guess that most people here just think it is over-hyped and over-priced.

    1. goodhealthgourmet RE: jessheslin Nov 10, 2007 03:35 PM

      it's not that it's BAD, it's just overrated...there are better places to go, but your meal will be good.

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        theannerska RE: jessheslin Nov 10, 2007 04:26 PM

        I've heard positive things from everyone -- and it is the favorite of several friends. I haven't been, but it surely can't be bad.

        Happy anniversary!

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          KTinNYC RE: jessheslin Nov 10, 2007 05:26 PM

          Nobu isn't really known for sushi. I don't think many people would place it in the upper echelon of sushi restaurants in NYC. It is better known for it's cooked foods.

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            jvish RE: KTinNYC Nov 10, 2007 08:07 PM

            Nobu bashing is pretty popular, the Sushi isnt that bad its just not that spectacular either, the food is always really good though. Its the same food / menu that made the place famous and its still great. Its lost a bit of its luster but..especially if you havent been before im sure you will enjoy it. we have always had great service and a great meal every time we have gone

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            BW212 RE: jessheslin Nov 10, 2007 09:44 PM

            The one time I ate there (last year) I was extremely disappointed. The sushi was not not impressive. The cooked food was better but it didn't impress.

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              jessheslin RE: BW212 Nov 11, 2007 04:33 PM

              Thanks all for being honest. I think at this point we will keep our res and have fun, knowing it won't be the best best ever.....

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                gramercyfoodie RE: jessheslin Nov 12, 2007 03:01 AM

                just want to echo everyone else in saying that their cooked dishes are really outstanding and for omakase try elsewhere. You should absolutely take him but stick with cooked foods. My fiancee is a sushi/japanese food snob and love, love, loves Nobu, will go at any chance he gets, but we don't order much sushi. Enjoy and have fun!

            2. thew RE: jessheslin Nov 11, 2007 04:49 PM

              there is nothing wrong with Nobu.. Nobu bashers just think it makes them hip to do so. It is not a sushi place, so judging it on its sushi would be like judging picasso on his creme brulee. I have had the omakase there several times in several different prices, and never was disappointed. Enjoy yourself. Ignore sour people. It's your mouth that matters, not theirs.

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                Midtown Jimmi RE: thew Nov 11, 2007 07:41 PM

                I get what you're saying, semi-agree with it, but the analogy is a little off. Picasso painted, sculpted, drew...was known for art, not cooking. Creme Brulee is cooking. Nobu is a Japanese Restaurant. They put sushi on their menu. Sushi is a Japanese food. Maybe it would be better to say judging James Joyce on his poetry. Though Nobu ain't no Joyce. More of a late-period Hammett.

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                  BW212 RE: thew Nov 11, 2007 08:06 PM

                  I politely beg to differ. I didn't put down Nobu because it "made me hip to do so." My best friend and I went there. She lives in LA and I live here. We're both big foodies and we were both disappointed by our meal at Nobu.

                  Was it horrible? No. But it wasn't particularly good, let alone great.

                  Now maybe they had an off night, I don't know. It was the only time we were there. All I know is that we both felt let down afterwards.

                2. financialdistrictresident RE: jessheslin Nov 11, 2007 04:57 PM

                  I have only been to Nobu once. Food and service were very good. We saw Mario Battali dining there as we left. Based on the posts here hounds don't consider it top sushi (you might want to do a search of this site to see what hounds consider best sushi). New Yorkers' dislike that the menu is consistent, doesn't change.

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                    kobetobiko RE: jessheslin Nov 11, 2007 08:38 PM

                    Hi jessheslin,

                    Let's rewind 10 years. 10 years ago there weren't that many high-end Japanese restaurants, even less on good fusion Japanese. I think at that time Nobu was the best, and I am not surprised that it got such high praise at that time.

                    But then similar kinds of restaurants popped up everywhere. There were Nobu-like restaurants in every city. Everyone has tried some versions of miso-marinated cod, which was one of dishes that made Nobu really famous. Even Morimoto who used to work at Nobu had his own restaurant with a menu similar to Nobu. A lot of these restaurants are just as good as Nobu, if not better. Morimoto's restaurants in Philly and in NYC, in my experience, are better than Nobu, but I will still say sushi at Morimoto isn't anything impressive. Another restaurant in East Village called Le Miu, was opened by chefs from Nobu. The taste of the dishes are just about the same, only the restaurant is a lot smaller, and a lot cheaper.

                    So in short, Nobu did not change. It is still the same as it was. But the world around it did. When everyone else moves forward, Nobu stays where it was 10 years ago.

                    I think that's why you can a lot of negative reviews of Nobu.

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                      eternalX RE: kobetobiko Nov 12, 2007 08:05 AM

                      This is an excellent response to the OPs question.

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