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Green bean casserole w/o mushroom soup

danhole Nov 10, 2007 10:15 AM

My SIL loves this dish, but I was force fed cream of mushroom soup as a child, and frankly it makes me gag just to look at it. Can I make this w/o that, and especially without mushrooms? Could I use cream of chicken soup, or cream of celery? Of course, I will ask him if the mushrooms are a deal breaker, If they are I will make it but not eat it!

  1. PurpleTeeth Nov 10, 2007 10:40 AM

    The mushrooms can be good if done right. I made this last year by sauteing fresh crimini mushrooms in butter sprinkle them with a little flour while doing this. Then I added white wine and a little bit of good chix stock. Blanch the green beans and add them to this. Put in a dish and sprinkle with the requisite fried onions. I too do not like my mushrooms drenched in cream.

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    1. re: PurpleTeeth
      PurpleTeeth Nov 10, 2007 10:52 AM

      I forgot to say you should reduce the chix stock and wine for a bit until it thickens a little. Probably about 1 cup of wine and 2 cups of good stock per pound of beans.

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      kkak97 Nov 10, 2007 10:41 AM

      Try one of these. I can't imagine why you couldn't leave out the mushrooms.

      http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_81503,00.html

      http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recip...

      1. revsharkie Nov 10, 2007 10:48 AM

        The South Beach Diet cookbook (the orange one) has a recipe for "homestyle green bean casserole" that looks like a better version of the canned-soup-glop one. It actually has you make baked onion rings to put on top. Then you saute onions and mushrooms and make a white sauce with them, and stir in the beans.

        1. toodie jane Nov 10, 2007 10:50 AM

          the pioneer woman does a "Spanish" tomato/greenbean/bacon and onion thing:
          http://www.thepioneerwomancooks.com/
          (Note feel free to use fresh produce. She lives in the MON and use of pantry items is her schtick.)

          1. chef chicklet Nov 10, 2007 10:55 AM

            If you want that traditional casserole, yes you can make it with cream of chicken or celery, or asparagus. I have to make if for my family, I don't use the cream of mushroom, I use the above. But what makes it better is to add about 2 large onions, and garlic (add the garlic last don't burn it) saute until they are carmelized, and then add that to the soup with cream and sherry - 1/3 cup good sherry to the onions will ensure the alcohol cooks off.

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              brchbell Nov 23, 2011 04:20 AM

              TY! I'm deadly allergic to mushrooms and wanted to try something new so will try the tradition recipe with my home made cream of celery soup and love the idea of caramelized onions! A little cram and sherry sounds yummy too!

            2. paulj Nov 10, 2007 11:39 AM

              How about making a thick cream sauce with whatever flavor you want? There's nothing magical about canned soup in this application. Even if you use the canned fried onions, you could add more onion flavor with a generous use of sauteed diced onion. Slivered or sliced almonds also go well with green beans. Bacon also comes to mind.

              paulj

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                chef chicklet Nov 10, 2007 01:49 PM

                And I agree, try to make your own sauce if the others will let you. Some people though like the soup in there, and are looking at Thanksgiving for tradition and memories.

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                  Jane917 Nov 10, 2007 04:18 PM

                  Here is a link to Cook's Illustrated World's Best Green Bean Classic. No cream soup!

                  http://kitchen-parade-veggieventure.b...

                  1. re: Jane917
                    danhole Nov 21, 2007 07:50 AM

                    I passed this job on to my oldest daughter, and sent her a link to this, and this is the one she is going to make! I hope the die-hard GB casserole fans don't start a revolution over this, but it looks really good to me, even though I'm not crazy about 'shrooms! But fresh has to taste better than that darn soup.

                2. re: paulj
                  danhole Nov 11, 2007 11:28 AM

                  What is a good recipe for a cream sauce? My family is weird about sauces, casseroles, and textures, so I can make a mean gravy, but not very familiar with sauces. I love the idea of bacon but that is in my corn recipe, so it would be over kill. The way I usually make green beans is country style with onions and diced ham, which my daughter will probably do also, but I am trying to do something special for the SIL since he won't get his fix at his family's this year. But I really do NOT like mushrooms at all. I'm trying, but . . .

                  1. re: danhole
                    paulj Nov 11, 2007 01:10 PM

                    A cream sauce is like your gravy, but made with milk (and/or vegetable broth) and butter, instead of meat stock and drippings.
                    paulj

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                      revsharkie Nov 11, 2007 06:20 PM

                      The equivalent of an undiluted can of condensed soup is 3 tablespoons of butter, 3 tablespoons of flour, and a cup of liquid. I did this last night to put over a batch of ham balls, after I refused to buy canned tomato soup any more when I read the ingredients and discovered the dreaded HFCS. Why does that garbage have to be in everything?! (For tomato, obviously, you use tomato juice as the liquid, and you add a little garlic powder, onion powder, and oregano.)

                    2. re: danhole
                      KaimukiMan Nov 11, 2007 11:38 PM

                      i can't imagine bacon in both the corn and gbc being overkill, but you might consider pork sausage in place of the bacon in one dish or the other. I too am making GBC, and agree with the other posters about the use of onions and garlic. A white sauce is not that hard, plenty of recipes for it, but using another cream soup (asperagus, broccoli) will be a good substitute for mushroom.

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                        GenieinTX Nov 12, 2007 05:57 AM

                        Check out Alton Brown's recipe above. It uses a cream sauce and will tell you how to make it. As Paul said, it's just like gravy. Melt butter in pan, add flour to butter. Cook a little bit, add milk.

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                      momjamin Nov 11, 2007 01:44 PM

                      http://www.amazon.com/Deep-South-Stap...

                      I've flipped through this book and like the stories. I haven't tried the recipes, but think "mushroom bechamel sauce" instead of cream of mushroom soup.

                      1. Caroline1 Nov 11, 2007 06:41 PM

                        Here's a recipe for a delicious green bean stew made with tomatoes. It can be served hot or room temperature. Give it a try before you decide on serving it for Thanksgiving.
                        http://almostturkish.blogspot.com/200...
                        If your sister in law is determined to have the cream of mushroom soup version, maybe serving both. Chances are even she will be won over by these green beans!

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                          toodie jane Nov 12, 2007 06:48 AM

                          following this link, here are many more green bean dishes NOT involving creamed soups: (scroll below the featured recipe)

                          http://kalynskitchen.blogspot.com/200...

                        2. danhole Nov 19, 2007 12:50 PM

                          So, the son-in-law has spoken, and he says that green bean casserole will not be the same without cream of mushroom soup - YUK! So my answer is to pass this off to another daughter to make for him. She is not adverse to that soup as I am, so she can make it, and I will make nice and have a bit, but inside I will be cringing! Thanks for all the ideas, I just wish I could have used one of them!

                          He also has decreed that the stuffing HAS to be cooked inside the turkey, which he did last year and it was awful (even he thought so), but he will not have it any other way. Since the dinner will be at their house and not mine, so be it. He can make his turkey and stuffing, and we are taking a turkey to fry (at his wife's, my daughter's request), and my stuffing (which is very good). This is not a competition, but we are accustomed to certain things and he is accustomed to others, so we will all have what we want. They haven't been married that long, and when they were dating he was fine with my Thanksgiving, but now that they have their own house, it's another story!

                          Now I have a lovely smoked turkey to make another day, since he doesn't think that is "traditional" enough. Color me a bit upset, but I will get over it. It's all about being together, right? Yeah, right!

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                            MakingSense Nov 20, 2007 05:12 PM

                            "we are accustomed to certain things and he is accustomed to others" - Isn't that the theme of Thanksgiving? It's all about the traditions you grew up with.

                            I remember reading about some academic - a cultural historian or something - who claimed that he could tell where someone was from by what they had for Thanksgiving dinner. That may not be so true any longer as so many people now move around the US so much and aren't as mindful of family traditions and heritage, being influenced by TV cooking shows, the media and mass market foods in supermarkets. More people used to marry folks from close to home and their families had similar traditions. There have been major changes in just 30 years in the US.
                            I'll eat at my daughter's home on T'giving and the menu planned is nothing like what my mother or I served. Sic transit gloria Turkey Day.

                            1. re: MakingSense
                              danhole Nov 21, 2007 07:43 AM

                              The really sad part about all of this is that I was not really raised with Thanksgiving traditions, per se. We moved, a lot, and my parents had odd hours, and often worked on holidays. So our tradition was to find a restaurant that was open on Thanksgiving,

                              My DH on the other hand was born and raised in the same house his entire life with family surrounding him, but he is so picky that his idea of Thanksgiving was turkey and mashed potatoes. But his mom hosted us and it was an odd hodge podge of cranberry nut salad, cornbread dressing, mushy sweet potatoes with marshmallows, dry turkey, watery gravy, canned asparagus, green bean casserole, corn, frozen pies and some Mrs. Bairds rolls!

                              I started out family Thanksgiving dinners at our house back in 1995, so although we haven't had years of "tradition" to fall back on we know what we like. Before that we were always alone, so we would eat whatever we had on hand, and then address Thank you cards to people we were thankful for.

                              It has only been for the past 2 years that I have not hosted, and I will admit that I am a control freak when it comes to cooking. Of course, no one else can cook as well, and they certainly haven't "perfected" their recipes with the same loving care that I have. ;-) So, I am trying to get over it, and go with the flow - trying being the operative word here. My daughter, his wife, is along the same lines as her dad. Just serve her turkey, mashed potatoes, corn, green beans (not the casserole) and gravy and she's happy. She could care less about any of the other things that go with it. Ah . . .as you said in your last line!

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