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Elemental - anyone have a recent report?

wetdawg Nov 9, 2007 11:59 AM

Is the food holding up? And how successful have you been on scoring a table?

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    stolenchange RE: wetdawg Nov 9, 2007 01:24 PM

    A co-worker was just there a few weeknights ago.
    Food: Good, but not consistently "Wow!"
    Tables: At 5:02, the last table was filled.

    1. Freida RE: wetdawg Nov 9, 2007 03:52 PM

      I was there this summer with 3 other people. We had to show up early to get a table, and the place filled up immediately after 5. I thought the food was fantastic, although I will freely admit we were all thoroughly smashed by the end of the meal, even trying to take care with the wines. Four people equals a lot of courses!

      When we left, I think around 9:30, I'm not sure there had been a second seating yet.

      1. allisonw RE: wetdawg Nov 11, 2007 05:40 PM

        I tried to go there for my birthday on a recent weeknight with four friends. They refused to seat us and were very rude.

        I will not be back.

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          stolenchange RE: allisonw Nov 11, 2007 06:19 PM

          What reason did they give for refusing to seat you? Just curious.

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            allisonw RE: stolenchange Nov 11, 2007 06:34 PM

            They said "we're full" despite there being 3-4 empty tables.

            This may be how they do it in NYC, but I'm a native daughter and I'm not interested in eating there no matter how damn good it is.

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              barleywino RE: allisonw Nov 11, 2007 07:10 PM

              i went once with 2 friends and they were full and said we could sit in the lounge area near the door, but then they (meaning "he") refused to bring us drinks and got angry and sarcastic, so we left. I didn't find the food to be terribly special anyway, the other couple times I've been i.e. not worth the aggravation of getting there early to get in line for a table, or the attitude.

              1. re: allisonw
                stolenchange RE: allisonw Nov 11, 2007 08:52 PM

                That sucks. I have zero patience for bad service and attitude when I'm dining out.

                1. re: allisonw
                  Freida RE: allisonw Nov 12, 2007 11:20 AM

                  Eating at Elemental requires a suspension of belief in the usual restaurant rules of conduct. Phred has a certain idea of how his restaurant works, and if you don't feel like going along with him, you can leave. I think the place only has two four-tops, and he won't change that just because people are waiting. I have heard him be rude to people who try to get in after the initial seating, but he's always been nice to us, because we wait politely, drink what he gives us and try not to ask what any of the wines are.

                  Like I said, it's play by his rules or go somewhere else. I think it's great that he's not trying to be like every other place.

                  1. re: Freida
                    barleywino RE: Freida Nov 12, 2007 03:18 PM

                    At the very least, a rude and arrogant host tends to put a damper on the evening, why bother if the food isn't that great anyway?

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