Creating an Outer Boroughs Sticky - Your Feedback
We've been trying out a new sticky format on the Manhattan Board for awhile now, and while it hasn't completely eliminated 'Coming to town for the weekend, where should I eat?', it also hasn't caused any problems, so we're going to go ahead and start working on these stickies for some others of the boards, beginning with our most active regional boards. This thread is for feedback on what should go into the sticky for the Outer Boroughs.
Check out the sticky on the Manhattan board ( http://www.chowhound.com/topics/444453 ) for an example, and then let us know:
1. What are the most repetitive (yet generally on topic) questions that get asked? Are there specific events or attractions people are always asking for recommendations near? Specific restaurants that have been discussed in great detail? We're not trying to totally eliminate these questions, just help people to find the information that already exists. The really general 'Coming to town for the weekend, where should I eat?' questions that are an issue on every board are a given for this list--you don't need to suggest them here.
2. Any board specific vocabulary, abbreviations or habits that people should know? On the multi-state boards, this might be the habit of using airport codes in titles to note the town, locally it might be that putting the airport code in the title means you want to eat near the airport. On Manhattan, we mentioned that prices there are generally higher than average so people should try to use clear cost descriptions if they have budget limits.
3. Are there any off board chowdown lists/groups that people should be aware of? How can they sign up?
If you've got any other feedback about the stickies, let us know that, too.
We probably won't be able to use everything that gets suggested, but we will try to incorporate as much feedback as possible while still keeping the stickies manageable.
-- Jacquilynne, Community Manager for Chowhound
A word of warning: tread softly and be prepared for loooong discussions when you ask for pizza or steak recommendations in Brooklyn.
If you want the best pizza, just go straight to DiFara. Yes, you'll have to wait. Sometimes an hour. Yes, it's worth it. (uh-oh did i just get myself in trouble?)
And, no, there is no good Indian or Chinese in South Brooklyn.
to me its whistling in the wind giving people search advice in a sticky. It would be better to create a handful of sticky threads on each board for things like best pizza, best steak, best thai, theater district choices "lunch near the Brooklyn Museum" "dinner around BAM" and and party/event locales which would accumulate a lot of the repetitive request info.
re: jen kalb
as usual, jen kalb has it right
and due to human nature and the many ways people find their way to threads, I have low expectations for stickies to cut down the tedious repetitions. but seriously, thx for trying!
other frequent repetitive Qs:
I have a car for the weekend, where should I go?
I have parents coming, where do I take them?
what should I order at
al di la
for citywide menus
One thing I want to clarify (and I'm posting this in every thread, it's not specific to this one) is that we're not looking to elevate specific topics or answers to sticky status, or even link them within the stickies. Nor are we looking to completely eliminate repetition from the boards. Repetition is still good--it brings out new answers (whether from new posters or about new restaurants) and ensures that things are updated. A single sticky (or otherwise annointed as official) thread for a given popular topic wouldn't do that job as well.
From the perspective of the new user, we're trying to help them find the information that's already out there, as well as help them craft a good question that will get them the information they need if they can't find it.
From the perspective of our regulars, we're trying to cut back a moderate amount on the repetitive questions, as well as help to ensure you get the information you need, rather than having to ask a bunch of clarifying questions every time someone new comes along.
re: Helen F
Yes, absolutely--where to eat near Yankee Stadium is frequently asked. Greatest hits at Spicy Mina's and Sripraphai often come up as well. People also ask about Arthur Avenue recommendations relatively frequently. There are some excellent old thread on all of these topics that people should check out (ideally before posting).
re: rose water
these questions come up particularly for queens:
korean fried chicken
taco trucks / street cart food
bakeries - then broken down by ethnic cuisine (Italian, Chinese, Korean, etc)
the best in this type of cuisine:
then, there are the neighborhood specific ones, particularly:
Forest Hills/Rego Park
or the specific streets/areas of interest, like:
along the LIE
Queens Center Mall
Are you sure "Manhattan"/"Outer Boroughs" is the best way to to separate the NYC boards? Personally, I would prefer one board for Brooklyn and Queens (they are connected on Long Island), another for Manhattan from Harlem on down, another for the Bronx and upper upper Manhattan, and another for Staten Island. Maybe even one for North Jersey. I just feel that this would reflect geographic and cultural realities a bit better.
Also, isn't the term "Outer Boroughs" itself somewhat...dismissive? It sounds old-fashioned to me, and I grew up in Manhattan--I rarely hear it anymore, maybe from out-of-towners. Besides the excellent quality of some of the dining to be had in the "Outer Boroughs", it is inarguably true that some close-in "Outer Borough" nabes (Williamsburg, for example) are culturally AND GEOGRAPHICALLY more "Inner" than, say, Inwood, as well as being more relevant culinarily speaking. But maybe the out-of-towners are an essential piece of your audience and you don't presume to educate them?
re: Mr. Particular
Yeah, being from Brooklyn, I feel like this is a dis; like if you're not in Manhattan, you're not part of NYC.
What's also bothersome is now I have to comb multiple boards on one site to find what I'm looking for and post to multiples as well. My boyfriend is in Manhattan, I'm in Brooklyn. Like I won't cross a river to try some new market or restaurant? If something great is just off the PATH train in NJ or over in Nassau or Westchester, we'll never know.
C'mon, Chowhound, foodies go the distance.
yeah and I dont think that a sticky suggesting a search for "brunch park slope" or whatever on outerboroughs is going to reduce the flow. Maybe adding something general at the top of each board to encourage searching (with a method suggestion) in order to tap into the existing trove would make sense, but its just overly pedantic and time wasting to suggest specific searches for common items, when a sticky, wiki or such could deliver the info so much more efficiently.