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Waffle Mania Belgian Waffle Truck at Civic Center Farmer's Market - SF

This morning at Civic Center Farmer's market I came across a waffle truck! The man at the truck said that they are usually at the Marin Farmer's Market, but today was their first day at Civic Center. According to the truck sign, they are based in Mill Valley.

I tried a waffle (3 dollars) and it was really really good. The outside was crispy, and parts were almost caramelized along some of the edges. The inside was soft and still very hot...almost slightly undercooked, which I loved. The waffle was topped w/ powdered sugar which made for messy eating as I walked around the farmer's market since the powder blew all over my clothes and face. It was, however, delicious. I am excited that the truck is here and I hope it stays! If you're in the area, I recommend stopping by.

Dave MP

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  1. Presumably it's the same folks who sold me a waffle at the Oakland Grand Lake market several Saturdays ago - wasn't bad, though the crust seemed a tad chewier than I'd have liked. Still, a nice change from the usual crepes/steam-table Thai/etc I usually see at the local farmer's markets.

    1. My wife and I just tried it based on your post. It was very good. Although the inside wasn't as hot as we would have liked, it had a nice texture and we liked the contrast between the crispy outside and the chewy center. The owners said that they plan to be there every week for the entire day, but they would have to see how business is going at that location. They also said that they get their batter from Belgium and claimed to be the only U.S. distributor. Hopefully they'll stick around, it's a nice addition to the usual farmer's market food trucks.

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      1. re: lexmob

        I'm glad you liked them, though that's too bad the center wasn't very hot. I saw quite a few sitting there when I bought mine at 8:45 AM....but until people start lining up, I think they'd be better off making only a few at a time so that they're always very fresh and hot.

      2. What kind of toppings do they have? Strawberries and whipped cream like I first had at the Seattle World's Fair?

        1. Interesting...if these are the same people at Oakland Grand Lake, I think they charge a dollar more there, which is why I've never tried the waffles...four dollars for a small waffle is outrageous to me. They better be good (and hot) for that price!

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          1. re: chompy

            I'm not sure if it's the same ones that are in Oakland. The man only mentioned Marin. I didn't even ask about toppings, since toppings are 1 dollar extra. However, I got a sample of an apple slice to eat along with my last few bites, and that worked very well.....it'd be a good experiment to carry a waffle around to see which fruits in the market go best with it.

            1. re: Dave MP

              What day of the week is Civic Center Farmer's Market?

                1. re: artemis

                  So the Waffle Man is there two days of the week?

                  1. re: ChowFun_derek

                    I don't know. He implied that he's only there Wednesdays, but perhaps they will be there on Sunday too.

                    1. re: Dave MP

                      If he only goes to one market at a time then Sunday is the big day at Marin.

                      1. re: wally

                        Thanks guys...I'll give wednesday a try!

                          1. re: Agent 510

                            I went again today. Waffle was good. Like Spatlese says, the crust is a bit chewy, but I think the flavor is really great. These waffles remind me of really good churros.

                            I was there at 8:40 AM and I saw several people eating/buying waffles.

          2. does anyone have a telephone number or an email address to get in touch with the owner of the truck? I'm pretty sure his name is Derby Preston.

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            1. re: arriadevoe

              From the Marin Civic Center FM website:
              Jean-Louis Van Den Bosch & Alain Dupont
              Waffle Mania
              415-269-2636

            2. Here's a picture of the waffle truck from sfeater.com which credits the tip to Chowhound
              http://sf.eater.com/archives/2007/11/...

              Here's a picture of the waffle itself topped with chocolate hazelnut spread and whipped cream.
              http://www.flickr.com/photos/voyageur...

              There is a good article (repeated in the flicker link) from the Marin Independant Journal.
              http://www.marinij.com/dining/ci_4257434

              The batter comes a Belgium company called SoGood ... hey SoGood calls it batter. However in the Marin IJ article the owner says it is yeasted dough that is squeezed.
              http://www.sogood.be

              SoGood is one of the leading Belgium waffle companies which exports the flash-frozen yeasted dough. It is the pearl sugar made from beets which is not available in the US that gives them the crunchiness. Nice pictures of the dough on the SoGood website.

              They are good up to 5 days and can be reheated in a toaster or toaster oven.

              Plans are for a permanent waffle cart on Pier 39, the warming hut and ski resorts in Mammoth and South Lake Tahoe.

              They are a street food called gaufres in Belgium. .

              The Marin IJ quotes one of the owners....

              ""Basically this is the same as what originated in Liege - a town in Belgium where the waffles were invented sometime in the 12th century," says Derby Preston, who says that they were baked by miners' wives who would give them to their husbands as snacks when they walked in the door."

              The other partners are Belgium-born Jean-Louis Van den Bosch and Alain Dupont

              Where they currently sell

              Civic Center Farmers Market Wednesday morning
              Fairfax Wednesday night market from 6 to 9 p.m.
              Downtown San Rafael Thursday night market from 6 to 9 p.m
              Grand Lake farmers market Saturday morning
              Marin Civic Center farmers markets Thursday and Sunday from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m.

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              1. The truck was not at the Civic Center Farmer's Market today (Wednesday Jan. 30) when I walked through at 7:20 a.m. Anyone know what happened?

                Last week you couldn't miss it because of the magnetic aroma. I thought $3 was a bit much to pay for a small waffle that wasn't hot, but then again I never thought anyone would pay the prices at Mrs. Fields for cookies they could make at home.

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                1. re: Bay Gelldawg

                  I went by around 9:30am and they were there, although not busy. The waffle was warm (not hot) and was pretty good--it's a yeasted dough, as others have pointed out, so it doesn't have that typical american-waffle fluffy/crisp thing going on. It's dense and bready-yeasty, more like challah/brioche in flavor, with a slightly crunchy outside. Did I love it? No, not really, but it's a cute idea. I don't think they have toppings at Civic Center; I asked and was told that it didn't need them--just a sprinkle of powdered sugar. Maybe I've have gotten Nutella if I've begged, but I settled for the standard $3 plain.

                2. Went by this morning and there was no sign of the truck...does it still come every Wed? I got there at 8am, then shopped around for about 40 minutes until I lost faith in the truck appearing and got 3 All-Star tamales instead...they were tasty in their own right and a good attempt at sans-waffle-consolation, but I really was looking forward to my first waffle. I left the market at 9:10 with no sign of the truck. Is it usually parked right by the tamale and falafel vendors? I'll try again next week.

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                  1. re: justtryit

                    The Marin Farmer's Market is on Thursday and Sunday.

                    1. re: marian

                      The truck has been going to the Civic Center farmer's market on Wednesdays, so justtryit was asking about that market.

                      1. re: farmersdaughter

                        there is no farmer's market at the Civic Center on Wednesday.

                        1. re: marian

                          Yes, at the SF Civic Center, there is.

                    2. re: justtryit

                      you know it's no longer a truck but a stand
                      same location and same good stuff (dough) from belgium

                      i was there wednesday also and the waffleguy wasnt around. i know he sometimes caters elsewhere on assignment so it's a bummer when we can't get our waffle fix. he needs to get himself a retail space or partner with one of our fancy coffee shops

                      1. re: kewlio

                        The stand was at the Civic market this morning, and the waffles were gloriously delicious! I had one without sugar, and found it to be the perfect level of subtle sweetness. Need to learn how to make these myself -- has anyone made these successfully at home?

                        FYI, he said he usually arrives around 7:15, to be set up and serving around 8 am.

                    3. A regional variation of Waffles are Waffles Liegeois (of the town of Liege, in the south), aren't meant to be crisp. They should have so much sugar that the outside is a little chewy simply because the sugar is somewhat melted and fluid. The comparison to churros is somewhat apt - they're that sweet, although unfried.

                      So, perhaps these are Liegeois instead of Bruxellois?

                      In Liege the waffle guys have a stack of premade but will be making one every now and then, as the smell is the calling card. You want to wait around until a freshie comes off the griddle

                      There is commonly a choice between standard (vanilla) batter and chocolate batter. I think y'all would have mentioned the chocolate batter if they had it.

                      Dang, I could really go for a waffle now....

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                      1. re: bbulkow

                        Your description makes me think they are Liegeois, because they are chewy and sweet, not crisp. As of the last time I went (which was in the fall), there was no chocolate :(

                        Dave MP

                        1. re: Dave MP

                          Don't recall seeing a chocolate batter when I went about one month ago.

                      2. Daily Candy reported in January that Waffle Mania was planning a permanent home in North Beach. I've seen no evidence of it yet, has anyone?

                        http://www.dailycandy.com/san_francis...

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                        1. re: Xiao Yang

                          Has anyone called them to ask what their current schedule is?

                          Waffle Mania, Civic Center Farmers Market, 1182 Market Street, between Eighth and Grove Streets. Wednesdays, 8 a.m.-2 p.m. For more information, call 510-604-3009.

                          1. This article is out of date -- I wrote it for one of SF's major newspapers about seven months ago, but things didn't pan out. Anyway, I thought readers and waffle lovers would be interested in the background information. I haven't been to the Civic Center market in a while, so I'm not sure about the latest.
                            .......................
                            It's Waffle Mania
                            By Alexandria Rocha

                            Morgan Davis, a 24-year-old public relations director for the Orpheum Theater, had her first waffle from Waffle Mania in 2007.

                            She was intrigued by a thick smell of vanilla and sugar coming from the Civic Center farmers’ market as she stepped off the bus at Hyde and Market streets one Wednesday morning.

                            She continued toward the usual bagel and coffee shop for breakfast, but stopped short after eyeing a small white truck boasting authentic Belgian waffles next to the rotisserie and tamale vendors. She got into the long line.

                            “Powdered sugar?” the man asked, winking.

                            “Yes, please,” she said, a little intimidated, handing him $3.

                            It was crisp, chewy and warm, just like in Brussels. Definitely not frozen.

                            “We had Eggo waffles,” Davis said of her childhood experience before her parents bought a waffle maker. It was then waffles made from cinnamon batter, drenched in butter and fruit toppings, were introduced at Sunday brunch.

                            Waffle Wednesdays is now a permanent routine for Davis and her co-workers at the theater. It’s a lot like the episode of NBC’s “The Office,” she said, where everyone gets a little too excited for pretzel day.

                            “There is a buzz in the office. Everyone talks about the smell,” she said. “I really do make sure I go to the ATM Tuesday so I have cash for my waffles Wednesday morning.”

                            Since its debut at the Heart of the City Farmers’ Market a year ago, Waffle Mania – either a converted ice cream truck or standard market tent equipped with two gas-powered waffle irons – has spurred a waffle fever of sorts, not unlike the San Francisco crepe craze. Its customers, who are about 60 percent women, range from workers looking for a breakfast alternative or an adult take on a school-day treat to those hoping for a flashback of a European vacation or semester abroad. There are plenty of market shoppers and tourists who eat them, too.

                            Co-owners Derby Preston, of Danville, and Alain Dupont and Jean Louis Van Den Bosch, who are both of Belgium and now live in Marin County, hope to carve a niche for the waffle among the European street foods San Franciscans already enjoy, such as crepes and gelato.

                            “Waffles are a proven product beyond the lifespan of America. I looked at a painting of Bruegel, and there was the waffle,” said Preston, a care bear of a man with white hair and beard, regarding the 15th Century Belgian painter Pieter Bruegel the Elder’s paintings, which often featured waffles.

                            There are only a handful of full-time Belgian waffle purveyors in the U.S., said Edith Mayeux, a New York-based commissioner in charge of the food sector for the Belgian Trade Commission. “A lot of people have shown interest in opening a business and selling these waffles. Nobody has succeeded yet.”

                            Mayeux said rents in cities such as San Francisco are typically too high for would-be purveyors of the specialty snack.

                            “This is why waffles are only sold at diners as part of a range of products,” she said. “The Belgian concept of having a little place on the street where you can attract customers by the smell on their way to work has not been possible.”

                            A mobile truck, however, could be the key, she said.

                            Waffle Mania has been a 30-year-old dream for Preston and Van Der Bosch, who both make their living outside the waffle business as jewelers. The two met while working as heavy equipment operators in Walnut Creek in the 1970s.

                            Becoming fast friends, the two took a trip to Belgium in 1981, where Preston had his first waffle in Brussels. A year later, he imported two 80-pound waffle irons from Belgium. He wasn’t an entrepreneur, but thought waffles could be big. The irons sat in his garage for 24 years.

                            Like many chefs trying to replicate a recipe, Preston and Van Der Bosch failed again and again. They tested various recipes throughout the years, but couldn’t seem to get it right. Finally, after meeting Dupont, then the owner of Crepes Factory at the Ferry Plaza Farmers’ Market on the Embarcadero, they decided to buy dough directly from the source.

                            They hooked up with a company about 10 minutes outside Brussels called So Good, which flash freezes waffle dough for shipments around the world. The ingredients are simple: flour, butter, water, eggs, yeast, salt, vanilla and Belgian pearl sugar. The pearl sugar is made from beets and hailed as the special ingredient – it’s coarse, large grains melt down for a crunchy texture.

                            Unlike toaster waffles or the ones served at IHOP smothered in maple syrup and whipped cream, the Waffle Mania cakes have a bread-like texture that is soft and fluffy with pockets of pearl sugar on the inside and a crispy outer layer. Dupont, the waffle-ologist of the group, encourages customers to eat them plain, but has powdered sugar and chocolate sauce on hand for the sweet-sweet toothed.

                            The product rivals the waffles in Belgium, said Dupont, who returned to that country for waffle training after signing on with Waffle Mania and selling Crepes Factory.

                            “I try to keep it as authentic as I can,” Dupont said. “People have asked me for maple syrup, and I say, ‘No way, it will ruin it.’”

                            At 360 calories each, the waffles are a bit indulgent all on their own.

                            “I tried one, and I was hooked,” said Sun Lee, a stay-at-home mom who brings her two daughters to the market each week. “I’ve never seen another authentic Belgian waffle purveyor. These are more substantial being yeast raised,” rather than baking-powder raised as is common in the U.S.

                            Art Institute student Aziza Odeye trades a cold pastry for a warm waffle on Wednesday market days. “I say I’ll get one, but I’ll get two,” she said. “If they had fruit, that’d be a wrap for me.”

                            During her first visit, Myke Buster, a student at City College of San Francisco, asked Dupont for sugar-free syrup.

                            “What’s that?” he asked.

                            “It’s a way to cut back on the fat,” she said, accepting a dusting of powdered sugar instead.

                            “It’s moist, definitely flavorful,” she said, after the first bite. “You don’t need syrup on these.”

                            While additional toppings are not likely, the co-owners are envisioning a full-scale waffle enterprise. There is already talk about selling the waffles out of bakeries and coffee shops throughout the city, including North Beach and Pier 39 at Fisherman’s Wharf, and possibly on ferryboat charters to Alcatraz. The owners plan to sell the dough to other waffle purveyors, and have already contracted with a baker in Los Angeles who wants 30 cases.

                            They hope the lines at the Wednesday Heart of the City market are an indication of things to come. For now, the owners are setting up a tent at the market, while the truck is in the shop.

                            “Sometimes they’re long gone, and people still come asking for them,” said Sara Manivong, whose family sells produce at the market.

                            She buys her waffles first thing in the morning.

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                            1. re: Alexann

                              If the previous post has whetted your appetite for Belgian waffles like it has mine, you should call and confirm that they are going to be on site tomorrow before making a special trip. I just called and they aren't sure they will be there tomorrow. They are waiting for the dough.

                                1. re: kewlio

                                  FWIW I don't think they were there last weekend either... at least we didn't see them between 10 and 11 am.

                                  1. re: grayelf

                                    weekend? i thought we were talking about the waffle truck
                                    it is at civic center on wednesdays

                                    seems to have been there last 4 weeks

                                    1. re: kewlio

                                      According to the schedule above they do the SF Civic Center Wednesdays but *not* Sundays, because Sundays they're at the Marin Farmers market. And Saturday they are at the Oakland/Grand Lake market (where I've seen them and smelled them but never tried them), not Ferry Plaza.

                                      In other words, don't look for them in SF on the weekends!

                                      1. re: Ruth Lafler

                                        I can verify they were at the Civic Center Farmers' Market last Saturday (11/12/2008) at around 11:30 when I stopped by to shop.

                                        1. re: Euonymous

                                          You mean Wednesday, correct? That is the date for Wednesday and AFAIK there is no Saturday market at Civic Center

                                          1. re: rworange

                                            Not to mention 11/12/2008 wasn't a Saturday. It was, however, a Wednesday, which is when the truck is at the SF Civic Center market.

                                            1. re: rworange

                                              They mean the "Marin County Civic Center" where the Marin Farmers Market takes place

                                              1. re: rworange

                                                Sorry, yes. I meant Wednesday, 11/12/2008, at the SF Civic Center Market..

                                      2. re: kewlio

                                        It's somewhere higher up in the thread. They called me back to confirm that they would be at the market that day, but I ran short of time and didn't go.

                                  2. Ruth Lafler's quoted in SF Weekly about "The Public Shaming of the Waffle Truck Guy"
                                    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/foodie/2010...
                                    for her comment here,
                                    http://www.chow.com/blog/2010/03/faux...

                                    How are 'hounds liking the waffles these days? Now in Oakland and SOMA, as well as Civic Center.
                                    http://twitter.com/wafflemaniasf

                                    1. I saw the white waffle truck at the Old Oakland Farmer's Market a few Fridays back. Not sure if it's the same as the Civic Center but it makes sense.