Best of the E/F Line?
I'm contemplating a return to New York as a part-time resident (after 45 years!) and have been focusing on the 7 line corridor due to good, cheap and diverse ethnic eats and bargain basement housing prices (in old Co-ops). However, I've been advised not to rule out the Rego Park-Kew Gardens corridor which apparently has the same attractions.
There was a great collaborative thread on "Best of the 7 Line" and I'd love to see something similar for the E/F line covering all stations in the whole corridor out to Jamaica (including the local stops on the G/R/V). I've seen a bit on "Registan" but in general this area hasn't gotten the same attention the 7 line corridor has. Anyone care to start?
For reference, the "Best of the 7 Line" thread is here:
There's a sort of cheesy, over-the-top Italian place (think Moonstruck) on Ascan Avenue in Forest Hills. Mussels fra diavlo that I pine for.
Bann Thai on Austin Street, on perhaps 69th Ave.
Finally, though this place isn't worth a trek, Chicken House, on Kew Gardens Road. Totally basic, charbroiled chicken done right.
I think some of the places/locales mentioned are stretching what it means to be "on the E/F line."
Perhaps we should define some parameters. I have often chosen, for instance, to walk to the Elmhurst/Bway shopping center area(Chao Thai, Minangasli, Taste Good, etc_) from 74th and Bway, and I know that to be anywhere bet. 10 and 15 minutes. Of course, you can switch to the R and be there much quicker. But Tangra Masala? That's two station stops and anywhere bet 20 and 25 minutes walking. By that same token/logic, you could easily say that Tangra Masala was on the 7 line as well.
To my memory, all or most of the 7 train places mentioned were actually on the 7 line, meaning that the 7 was the closest actual train. How close is Steinway street - which I consider to be on the R line - to the nearest E or F?
You got the point. My "best of all possible worlds" scenario (food-wise) is to live near the 74th/Roosevelt stations where the E/F/G/R/V all stop (as well as the 7, but that's another list).
I definitely will be imposing a walking distance limitation. I already have a (fairly exhaustive) dump of restaurant names, addresses, and distance from subway stations from Delorme Street Atlas USA+ 2008 software. It'll be 1/4 to 1/3 mile from any subway stop. A lot of the good stuff is located as close as possible to Metro stations by design.
Some undermentioned places/stops in Queens: El Rey's, an underrated Dominican diner, as well as El Comal, a recently renovated Salvadoran Pupuseria, are both a stone's throw away from the Sutphin F stop on Hillside. There is also a new branch of Pio Pio on Hillside, closer to the Parsons stop, I believe. If you're in the mood for a good bialy, get off at the Kew Gardens/Union Turnpike stop, and head to a Thai owned neighborhood staple, name of Hot Bialys (Of course, Kossar's is also on the F line too, isn't it. East Broadway stop).
Here's what I have so far. I'm going by a "Station Master List" for the IND Queens line I found on Wikipedia. I'm not including a couple of Brooklyn suggestions because that would involve a very roundabout trip through Manhattan. My eventual final list will include a cuisine classification and distance from nearest subway station (some may be eliminated based on that). My idea is to come up with a chow-worthy list of eats in Queens a short fop by subway from either of the two 74th/Roosvelt stations without a transfer. Please comment on my preliminary list, and keep up the good work!
23rd Street–Ely Avenue:
Bosnian Hamburger Place?
Cruz Mexican Products
S.C. Rudar Sports Club
New York Diner
Roosevelt Avenue–Jackson Heights:
Sammy's Food Cart
Lao Bei Fan
63rd Drive–Rego Park:
Forest Hills–71st Avenue:
Union Turnpike–Kew Gardens:
P.S., aren't there some Guyanese places around Jamaica near the Metro?
Steinway: Cruz Mexican Products (oh, those gorditas)
Steinway or 46th St.: Stari Most and Ukus (Bosnian); S. C. Rudar Sports Club (Istrian); Brasilianville Cafe.
46th: Poodam's (new Issaan Thai on Broadway in a space where an awful Thai used to be); the New York Diner on Northern (above-average coffee shop)
Northern Blvd.: Orange Hut (good, cheap greasy-spoon breakfasts)
65th: Spicy Mina's (Bangladeshi), Sripaphai
74th: Zabb Queens (Issan Thai), Burmese Cafe, Dosa Diner, various paan vendors, Indo-pak grocers and Indian sweet shops; Thai Son (serviceable Vietnamese); a couple of Korean and Korean-Chinese places I haven't tried.
Elmhurst Av.: Various Chinese and Korean bakeries; Sugar Club (Thai snacks); a couple of Asian supermarkets
Grand/Newtown: Another good stop for some of the same things as Elmhurst Av.; the Georgia Diner; another Chinese market; Also, a Target :)
Woodhaven Av.: Not much chow I know of, but it's the best stop for the mall with a Macy's in it and you could walk to Grand/Newtown or Rego Park for a bite afterwards.
I went to Orange Hut once and had a small burger. What I call bowling alley fare, though I often quite like those kind of burgers. What was funny was some guy coming in and asking for a sprite, the man behind the counter says "we don't have any cold cans" so the customer says "can I have a glass with ice" and the man behind the counter says "we don't have any ice". What kind of diner doesn't have ice?
Old-school greasy-spoon, no more, no less. Two properly moist, fluffy scrambled eggs, competent hash browns, 4 slices of crisp cheap bacon, toast and coffee will set you back $4 including tax. Formica counters, 19 stools so they don't have to provide a restroom, a short-order cook who knows what he's doing and an old hand-painted menu board. Narrow selection of items, canned soda, and OJ in a carton.
Nothing amazing, but a good surviving example of a dying breed.
I'll try to list a few off the top of my head. I'll limit it to Queens. otherwise I'll be writing pages on the Fujianese places near the East Broadway stop.
21-Queensbridge Bulgara, and there's also a Bosnian hamburger place
Steinway St -- Astoria, which is as gastronomically diverse as the empire of Alexander the Great (and covers much of the same territory, plus Mexico and Brazil). Greek: Zenon, Stamatis, Philoxenia (if it ever reopens) Egyptian: Al-Omda, Kebab, Mombar Brazilian: Malagueta, Favela And lots more
46 St -- Ponticello
Northern -- Sapori d'Ischia
65 St - Sripraphai, Mina's, Renee's, Ihawan and many Filipino, Mexican, Irish, Salvadorian, etc
74 St -- Deshi, Kababish, Kabab King, Sammy's food cart, Coatzingo, UFC, a million other Mexican, Indian, Colombian (including Pequena Colombia, Tierras Colombiana, Cosita Ricas)
Elmhurst -- Chao Thai, Minangasli, High Pearl (Cantonese), Lin's (Taiwanese)
Grand -- Tangra, lots of others but I'm reaching the limit of my territory.
re: Brian S
For Malagueta, I'd get off at 33rd st station;
Elmhurst ave: Upi Jaya, Lao Bei Fan Dumpling house and many more
Grand ave: East buffet
63rd ave: Cheburechnaya, Ben's Best
67th ave; Arzu (my personal fave and right on the block of the subway station), Knish knosh, Andre's
71st ave - there are tons of posts on FH on this board
75th ave - non-chow related, nevertheless deserves special mention - Emilio's ski shop - good deals, great trips and knowledgable and helpful staff
Kew Gardens - I read on this board there are tons of Israeli restaurants
Let's see... starting from Brooklyn you've got Deback Malick on Fulton, The Islands is very close to that stop as well (Franklin Ave), Chao Thai in Elmhurst among about half a dozen other Indonesian, Malaysian and Thai places of extreme notoriety and quality. The Kew Gardens section goes close enough to the amazing Bukharan/Uzbek spots such as Cheburechnaya. Once you get to Jamaica proper, it's not a very long walk to 169th and Hillside which is one of the centers of Queens' massive Bangladeshi community. Eat at either Ghoroa or Sagar.