Best of the E/F Line?
- Xiao Yang Nov 6, 2007 09:28 PM
I'm contemplating a return to New York as a part-time resident (after 45 years!) and have been focusing on the 7 line corridor due to good, cheap and diverse ethnic eats and bargain basement housing prices (in old Co-ops). However, I've been advised not to rule out the Rego Park-Kew Gardens corridor which apparently has the same attractions.
There was a great collaborative thread on "Best of the 7 Line" and I'd love to see something similar for the E/F line covering all stations in the whole corridor out to Jamaica (including the local stops on the G/R/V). I've seen a bit on "Registan" but in general this area hasn't gotten the same attention the 7 line corridor has. Anyone care to start?
For reference, the "Best of the 7 Line" thread is here:
Let's see... starting from Brooklyn you've got Deback Malick on Fulton, The Islands is very close to that stop as well (Franklin Ave), Chao Thai in Elmhurst among about half a dozen other Indonesian, Malaysian and Thai places of extreme notoriety and quality. The Kew Gardens section goes close enough to the amazing Bukharan/Uzbek spots such as Cheburechnaya. Once you get to Jamaica proper, it's not a very long walk to 169th and Hillside which is one of the centers of Queens' massive Bangladeshi community. Eat at either Ghoroa or Sagar.
I'll try to list a few off the top of my head. I'll limit it to Queens. otherwise I'll be writing pages on the Fujianese places near the East Broadway stop.
21-Queensbridge Bulgara, and there's also a Bosnian hamburger place
Steinway St -- Astoria, which is as gastronomically diverse as the empire of Alexander the Great (and covers much of the same territory, plus Mexico and Brazil). Greek: Zenon, Stamatis, Philoxenia (if it ever reopens) Egyptian: Al-Omda, Kebab, Mombar Brazilian: Malagueta, Favela And lots more
46 St -- Ponticello
Northern -- Sapori d'Ischia
65 St - Sripraphai, Mina's, Renee's, Ihawan and many Filipino, Mexican, Irish, Salvadorian, etc
74 St -- Deshi, Kababish, Kabab King, Sammy's food cart, Coatzingo, UFC, a million other Mexican, Indian, Colombian (including Pequena Colombia, Tierras Colombiana, Cosita Ricas)
Elmhurst -- Chao Thai, Minangasli, High Pearl (Cantonese), Lin's (Taiwanese)
Grand -- Tangra, lots of others but I'm reaching the limit of my territory.
re: Brian S
For Malagueta, I'd get off at 33rd st station;
Elmhurst ave: Upi Jaya, Lao Bei Fan Dumpling house and many more
Grand ave: East buffet
63rd ave: Cheburechnaya, Ben's Best
67th ave; Arzu (my personal fave and right on the block of the subway station), Knish knosh, Andre's
71st ave - there are tons of posts on FH on this board
75th ave - non-chow related, nevertheless deserves special mention - Emilio's ski shop - good deals, great trips and knowledgable and helpful staff
Kew Gardens - I read on this board there are tons of Israeli restaurants
Steinway: Cruz Mexican Products (oh, those gorditas)
Steinway or 46th St.: Stari Most and Ukus (Bosnian); S. C. Rudar Sports Club (Istrian); Brasilianville Cafe.
46th: Poodam's (new Issaan Thai on Broadway in a space where an awful Thai used to be); the New York Diner on Northern (above-average coffee shop)
Northern Blvd.: Orange Hut (good, cheap greasy-spoon breakfasts)
65th: Spicy Mina's (Bangladeshi), Sripaphai
74th: Zabb Queens (Issan Thai), Burmese Cafe, Dosa Diner, various paan vendors, Indo-pak grocers and Indian sweet shops; Thai Son (serviceable Vietnamese); a couple of Korean and Korean-Chinese places I haven't tried.
Elmhurst Av.: Various Chinese and Korean bakeries; Sugar Club (Thai snacks); a couple of Asian supermarkets
Grand/Newtown: Another good stop for some of the same things as Elmhurst Av.; the Georgia Diner; another Chinese market; Also, a Target :)
Woodhaven Av.: Not much chow I know of, but it's the best stop for the mall with a Macy's in it and you could walk to Grand/Newtown or Rego Park for a bite afterwards.
I went to Orange Hut once and had a small burger. What I call bowling alley fare, though I often quite like those kind of burgers. What was funny was some guy coming in and asking for a sprite, the man behind the counter says "we don't have any cold cans" so the customer says "can I have a glass with ice" and the man behind the counter says "we don't have any ice". What kind of diner doesn't have ice?
Old-school greasy-spoon, no more, no less. Two properly moist, fluffy scrambled eggs, competent hash browns, 4 slices of crisp cheap bacon, toast and coffee will set you back $4 including tax. Formica counters, 19 stools so they don't have to provide a restroom, a short-order cook who knows what he's doing and an old hand-painted menu board. Narrow selection of items, canned soda, and OJ in a carton.
Nothing amazing, but a good surviving example of a dying breed.
Some undermentioned places/stops in Queens: El Rey's, an underrated Dominican diner, as well as El Comal, a recently renovated Salvadoran Pupuseria, are both a stone's throw away from the Sutphin F stop on Hillside. There is also a new branch of Pio Pio on Hillside, closer to the Parsons stop, I believe. If you're in the mood for a good bialy, get off at the Kew Gardens/Union Turnpike stop, and head to a Thai owned neighborhood staple, name of Hot Bialys (Of course, Kossar's is also on the F line too, isn't it. East Broadway stop).
Here's what I have so far. I'm going by a "Station Master List" for the IND Queens line I found on Wikipedia. I'm not including a couple of Brooklyn suggestions because that would involve a very roundabout trip through Manhattan. My eventual final list will include a cuisine classification and distance from nearest subway station (some may be eliminated based on that). My idea is to come up with a chow-worthy list of eats in Queens a short fop by subway from either of the two 74th/Roosvelt stations without a transfer. Please comment on my preliminary list, and keep up the good work!
23rd Street–Ely Avenue:
Bosnian Hamburger Place?
Cruz Mexican Products
S.C. Rudar Sports Club
New York Diner
Roosevelt Avenue–Jackson Heights:
Sammy's Food Cart
Lao Bei Fan
63rd Drive–Rego Park:
Forest Hills–71st Avenue:
Union Turnpike–Kew Gardens:
P.S., aren't there some Guyanese places around Jamaica near the Metro?
I think some of the places/locales mentioned are stretching what it means to be "on the E/F line."
Perhaps we should define some parameters. I have often chosen, for instance, to walk to the Elmhurst/Bway shopping center area(Chao Thai, Minangasli, Taste Good, etc_) from 74th and Bway, and I know that to be anywhere bet. 10 and 15 minutes. Of course, you can switch to the R and be there much quicker. But Tangra Masala? That's two station stops and anywhere bet 20 and 25 minutes walking. By that same token/logic, you could easily say that Tangra Masala was on the 7 line as well.
To my memory, all or most of the 7 train places mentioned were actually on the 7 line, meaning that the 7 was the closest actual train. How close is Steinway street - which I consider to be on the R line - to the nearest E or F?
You got the point. My "best of all possible worlds" scenario (food-wise) is to live near the 74th/Roosevelt stations where the E/F/G/R/V all stop (as well as the 7, but that's another list).
I definitely will be imposing a walking distance limitation. I already have a (fairly exhaustive) dump of restaurant names, addresses, and distance from subway stations from Delorme Street Atlas USA+ 2008 software. It'll be 1/4 to 1/3 mile from any subway stop. A lot of the good stuff is located as close as possible to Metro stations by design.
There's a sort of cheesy, over-the-top Italian place (think Moonstruck) on Ascan Avenue in Forest Hills. Mussels fra diavlo that I pine for.
Bann Thai on Austin Street, on perhaps 69th Ave.
Finally, though this place isn't worth a trek, Chicken House, on Kew Gardens Road. Totally basic, charbroiled chicken done right.