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Next Iron Chef - A Possible Tie between Besh and Symon

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wintersummer Nov 6, 2007 08:52 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict a tie between Besh and Symon. I actually think it's probably been set up that way from the very beginning. I think FN has to look a bit beyond food and attempt to find "acceptable" personalities for TV - not too reserved, not too arrogant, not too "sweet" (the women - and I'm female). I think with Besh and Symon they have both - the right personalities and the great chefs. They will keep them both and add two new iron chefs - just a theory.

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    jlafler Nov 6, 2007 02:43 PM

    A tie? No way. It would be too anticlimactic.

    I'm predicting Symon will win, because they keep playing clips of Symon saying things like "I love competition. I live for this stuff!" Of course, this is what the editors of the program are choosing to show us, and with that in mind it looks to me like they are laying the foundation for his win by portraying him as the one with the personality to be The Next Iron Chef.

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      pitu Nov 6, 2007 03:53 PM

      really? what stuck with me was Symon's disappointment and depression over not having a good day in the kitchen in Paris. Lots of beating himself up and psyching himself out. He's always read as a dark horse/big surprise to me when he pulls it together big and wins.
      With Besh, I just see him in Battle Andouille v Batali. He really rolled with it, and won. He came out like a hurricane and war surviving superstar. I saw that episode before I knew about Next Iron Chef.
      Who did Symon face in regular season ICA and how did it go?
      I never saw it -- sure wish they were showing it in repeats...

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        momjamin Nov 6, 2007 04:07 PM

        According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Iron_Chef and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_..., Symon lost to Morimoto in Battle Asparagus, but the scores aren't recorded.

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          Bunson Nov 6, 2007 06:47 PM

          I remember that episode and while I don't remember the exact score, one thing that I remember vividly was that Symon lost by a wide margin in all 3 categories...I was expecting him to do better since he's one of the top guys in the midwest, and arguably the best in Cleveland.

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            youngho Nov 7, 2007 07:58 AM

            Yes, but the ingredient was asparagus, and I do have to say that Morimoto seemed to do a truly extraordinary job in that battle. I remember that he did this incredible roll where the sections of rice and asparagus and seaweed and another ingredient came out in this geometric pattern that reminded me of a church window.

    2. Morton the Mousse Nov 6, 2007 12:47 PM

      Interesting idea, but doubtful. Reality shows always have a clear winner. I don't foresee the food network diverging from that tried and true formula. On the off chance there was a tie, a rematch would be most appropriate.

      1. notmartha Nov 6, 2007 12:44 PM

        Doubtful, unless they retire many existing Iron Chefs.

        I think Symon is more suitable. He seems to think quicker on his feet, and he's got more of a personality and charisma, which is important in TVland. I didn't remember him until I heard his 'hyena' kind of laugh and realized he's the guy from the No Reservations show on Cleveland.

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          WNYamateur Nov 6, 2007 11:28 AM

          Maybe not a tie, but in our house we think it's way to close to call. The best part is that we'd be equally pleased to see either of them win - that never happens in Top Chef.

          They're such different temperments, though. The one difference that may be important: I always describe Batali & Cory as unflappable - I think that makes a huge difference. But I think that it describes Besh more that Symon.

          Still, love 'em both.

          1. alanstotle Nov 6, 2007 10:18 AM

            A while back, in an interview with Andrea Strong, Alton Brown talked about The Next Iron Chef (after it was done taping but before it started its run on TV). Alton had this to say:

            "The new Iron Chef, who has already been chosen, has already competed and really shows up well." This doesn't mean that there wasn't a tie or that they didn't choose two Iron Chefs, but the wording strongly implies only one was chosen.

            Here's a link to the interview:

            http://thestrongbuzz.com/buzz/weekend...

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              Jocelyn P Nov 6, 2007 10:38 AM

              Put that together with this Toronto newspaper article http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/... and it sure looks like Symon is the winner.

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                Jeanne Nov 6, 2007 10:49 AM

                This article has been broad up on another board - they refer to Michael Symon as a prospective Iron Chef - not as an Iron Chef.

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                  Jocelyn P Nov 6, 2007 10:54 AM

                  Yes, but why else would Symon be competing on Iron Chef? Early speculation was that the battle against the Toronto chef could have been part of NIC, but that doesn't seem likely now.

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                    Jeanne Nov 6, 2007 12:22 PM

                    Don't know why Symon would be competing if he wasn't the winner Jocelyn - this is far out, but maybe they do actually tie and their talents later tested on ICA?

                    Or maybe the paper was trying to shield itself from a lawsuit from the Food Network and put "prospective" in the sentence - I guess we'll see next week. I'd love a tie though.

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                      Bunson Nov 6, 2007 07:36 PM

                      That article said the episode with Michael Symon will air in January...too far out to be related to TNIC which concludes next week. I think the cat's out of the bag.

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                        Kajikit Nov 7, 2007 11:19 AM

                        Not that anyone really cares... I'm not watching it to see 'who wins' because they're both very good at what they do. It's not like various other foody competitions where there's one stand-out and a bunch of would-bes who definitely aren't. Any of the final three could have made a creditable showing of themselves in Kitchen Stadium...

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              Jeanne Nov 6, 2007 09:37 AM

              This has actually crossed my mind - given the Kitchen Stadium arena and I assume the ICA points system of judging they will follow. I would be happy with that outcome!

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