Another pizza question: Dopo vs. Pizzaiolo, what's better?
I have been unable to eat fats of any kind for several months now due to a medical condition and am finally back to a normal diet. I have been dreaming of pizza and tonight is the night! I'm just curious if these two places are a wash when it specifically comes to the pizza - I've had Pizzaiolo recently and loved it, but am curious about Dopo. I went there when they first opened and remembered liking it, but can't remember well enough to compare the two. Specifically, is either one more authentic? I'm more interested in dough quality rather than toppings, although those of course matter as well. Any thoughts are appreciated!
I've been to both restaurants more times than I can count...
Dopo Vs Pizzaiolo - East Bay Italian Smackdown
Dopo does the following better:
Pizzaiolo does the following better:
antipasti - really good at both places, though I'll give the nudge to Dopo
contorni - I'll give this to Dopo as well, because you can get the verdura platter which features a reasonable portions of all the sides. That said, Pizzaiolo does some damn good contorni.
Service - totally variable. Both places have some servers who are fantastic, some who are not so great. Both are good places to find a server you like and stick with him or her.
Atmosphere - I prefer Pizzaiolo. Great music, fun and lively feel, beautiful outdoor patio
Good for large groups - definitely Pizzaiolo. It's a much larger space, with many big tables. Big groups at Dopo have to wait a loooong time if they don't have a ressie.
Reservations - Pizzaiolo takes them on a limited basis, Dopo only takes them for parties of six or more. Both are extremeley popular, so expect a wait.
And the winner is...
Dopo. That may just reflect my preference for pasta over pizza. However, I've had more meals at Dopo where I've left blown away and dumbfounded by how amazing the food was.
re: Morton the Mousse
Can I just say that one other thing that Pizzaiolo has on Dopo is a website! I'm not impressed with restaurants that don't a website nowadays, even a simple one stating hours/directions, etc (although a sample menu is preferable).
Pizzaiolo recently redid theirs and I must say, its fantastic. Someone needs to give Dopo a heads-up.
re: Morton the Mousse
re: The Dive
I've been to Pizzaiolo a wimpy 4 times. Each time I've been disappointed. The meatballs were very good. Once we had pizza and it was great. Last time we went with 2 other people and had a very unmemorable dinner. The pasta with mushrooms and breadcrumbs I had was pretty bland. The grape sorbet in one of our desserts was totally lacking in grape flavor.
I really want to like this place. The owner is wonderful, the place is nice looking and I love the idea of the food....however, it's also verrrry loud. I don't understand how Morton the M can tell what kind of music they're playing because of the noise. If I can't hear what the person sitting across from me is saying, it's too loud. One shouldn't have to shout at ANY restaurant, especially one that isn't cheap.
Actually, they were playing the Stones last time I was at Pizzaiolo, but I'm a big foe of music in restaurants. Because you can't really hear it over all the din of conversations, it becomes an irritant imho. Reminds me of why I hate the casinos in Reno.
Dopo, on the other hand, (to which I haven't been since they expanded) has always served good food and wasn't loud. It probably wasn't loud because it only held about 8 people. I agree about their pizzas. Wonderful. I also had a lamb ragout-type thing about 2 years ago which still causes me to salivate when I think of it.
Well pretty much all of it. I like the crust, cheese, sauce, and toppings better! It's just personal preference but it's what I like. I really like Dopo's simple cheese pizza and occassionally get the pizzas with toppings. The toppings are really simple and they don't put too much on the pizza so the crust stays crisp. I also think the cheese covers more of the pizza at Dopo and there is more of it.
Now I've heard good things about Piazzaiolo's fried chicken but haven't been back to try it. I think they used to serve it on Friday night but not the Friday I was there--of course I didn' t check out their online menu!
For what it is worth, a friend of mine who is Italian loves Dopo and thinks it is the closest to what he remembers from home. But I'm sure pizza varies in Rome as well.
I like the pizza more at Pizzaiolo, and I think the dough is tastier, but then I haven't had Dopo's pizza in a while, simply because I love their pastas so much that I can't go there without getting pasta. I think that you should go to one place tonight and another one tomorrow, and report back about which one you like better! That's the way to celebrate your ability to eat pizza again.