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Nov 1, 2007 07:30 PM

the london

How is the London? food, service, decor, menu...

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  1. great, great,great!!!oh and great!

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    1. re: UES Mayor

      UES Mayor, what do you suggest? Also have you been to Allen & Delancey?

      1. re: financialdistrictresident

        Its been too long for me to remember what I had but the general idea is everything I had was wonderful. The cheese cart was unforgetable and so was the desert triple decker cart-full of nostalgic goodies. The service was sublime and waitstaff superb.

        1. re: financialdistrictresident

          Hi fdr,

          Want to just first clarify what the OP is asking for. There is the maze at the london which is a small plate, causal dining area; then Gordan Ramsey at the Londen for formal fine dining; The London Bar is for drinking (a real bar) with small munchies. I have only been to the first 2, and I have thoroughly enojyed my experiences.

          For the formal dining, I opted for the tasting and everything was fixed except for the entrees with 2 options. There is a vegetarin tasting menu as well, but we didn't order it that time. The foie gras dish and the ravioli with prawns were my favorites. The fish dish (fluke) was cooked to perfection, and the pork belly was also very satisfying. I absolutely agreed with UES Mayor that the cheese cart and the dessert cart were very impressive, and if you have guests with you it would be a delighter for sure. Service was top notch and better than EMP or The Modern as far as I am concerned.

          The Maze at the London was also quite good with more options to choose from, and in general I found their fish dishes to be very skillfully cooked - cooked to level without drying the fish or underdone. It is hard to find a restaurant that can do fish so well consistently. Their foie gras with squad was very good, and somewhat reminded me of a similar dish I had at L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon. The sizes of the dishes tend to be on the small size (afterall they are supposed to be small plates) and it's actually good for girls like me who have small appetite and wanted to try everything. The fish portions tend to be more generous and good for my male companions (so was the beef short rib dish).

          Overall I would say Gordon Ramsey and Maze provide great delicious food consistently, though I won't go there for "surprises". The combinatons of the flavors and incredients were not too "out there", but the presentations were excellent, and the cooking was well executed. I was certainly impressed and surprised by the excellent service I received there, albeit the not-so-pleasant image that Gordon Ramsey projected on TV!

          1. re: kobetobiko

            Kobe - could you share more about what is on the dessert cart? I've heard it's amazing.

            1. re: BW212

              Hi BW212,

              The bonbon cart at Gordon Ramsay (of course it doesn't come in Maze which is the causal dining area) is indeed amazing. I tried to put down what I remembered below, but there were so many selections so I am sure I missed a few : some honeycomb, rum cake, some peanut brittles, chocolates, macaroons, marshmallow, some sorts of candies (jellies?), caramel popcorns, even cotton candy! I really really wanted to bring that trolley home with me! ;D

              1. re: kobetobiko

                Thanks! Can you have as much of everything as you want? That sounds a lot like what Alain Ducasse used to have.

            2. re: kobetobiko

              Thanks, kobe. Your detailed post was excellent and may have been what OP was looking for. It was certainly helpful to me.

              I'm also curious about the london because I'm trying to come up with possibilities where to go next with one of my dinner buddies (she has been to JG, Daniel, EMP, WD-50, Perry Street, etc.). I'm thinking Allen & Delancey (former Ramsey chef) or Gordon Ramsey might be a good choice. She has not been to Degustation. We went to The Modern Dining Room for our last dinner. Per Se is not an option (so Masa or Yasuda may be out too). p.s. I have never seen Gordon Ramsey on TV :)

              1. re: financialdistrictresident

                I've been to both. when i went to allen and delancey i asked the waitress where the chef was from (not knowing) and when she told me that he had been at the london it made perfect sense. the style of the food was very similar and exellent at both places. you can't lose with either. if you want formal go for GR, if you want more casual trendy go for allen and delancey.

                1. re: financialdistrictresident

                  I just noticed the date on this, so never mind! you've hopefully made it to at least one of these by now!

          2. I just went this past week. It is definitely on the snobby side. If you sit in the lounge area you only get bar food. If you sit in the dinning area, you are only able to order from that menu. If you sit in the "back room" you get the deluxe menu. Of course the prices go up as you go. It was cool to meet the French dude from The F Word. Apparently, he is stationed there for the next 2 months. I sat in the dinning area and I must say the food was moaning good. The foie gras with chicken livers yummy and sweet! The scallops were cooked to perfection with a dusting of curry powder. The cod was flaky with the skin cooked just right. I didn't get the dessert tray (I was in the middle class section), but the Molten chocolate with carmel sauce and almond and sea salt ice cream was almost enough to send me over the edge. And, I mean that the way you are thinking. All and all, snobby, but WHO CARES! It was excellent and I will be going to the upper class section next.

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            1. re: I grok

              Hi I grok,

              I didn't think the service was snotty, but more like the "English-style" politeness (if that makes sense), particularly with the English accent which makes the staff sounds very "English". It is more formal in that sense but I thought the service was very very professional. Everything that I asked for was immediately served and fulfilled. If you start chatting with them they are actually very friendly (Last time I went we talked from rugby to David Beckham and Posh Spice - it was fun!) Apparently they had this rotation program so the servers are mostly from England (or France as you said?) and they stay for a few months and go back. One of the captains that I talked to was in charge of the original Gordon Ramsay restaurant in London and he had been in the Manhattan location for 2 years and flied back home last summer.

              I much rather to have that than "causal" service with staff forgetting my requests unless I asked them 3 times (what I had experiences in my recent visits at the Bar Room at the Modern)....

              I agreed that the food, while not extremely innovative, was very well-executed.

            2. Had very tasty nibbles at the bar this weekend. The service was actually completely the opposite of snobby. EVERYONE on the staff we spoke to was super friendly, very thoughtful and actually seemed to be having a good time working there.

              I'm definitely hoping to go to the main dining room of The London soon!

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              1. re: BW212

                I didn't mean to imply that the staff was snobby. They were fabulous, it is the setup of the place that is on the snobby side to me.