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November 2007 Cookbook of the Month.

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  1. Here's a link to The Silver Palate website, with recipes, along with a pretty decent price on the cookbook: http://www.worldpantry.com/cgi-bin/nc...
    I can't tell whether the recipes are from the cookbooks, or if they just use their products??

    Chicken Marbella, Salmond Mousse, Baked Ham with Glazed Apricots, Tarragon Chicken Salad, Carrot Cake: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18540006/

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    1. re: Katie Nell

      One that I have made many many times is the Basil-Walnut vinaigrette. I always serve it just as they suggest: on "a cool plateful of crisp-cooked garden-fresh green beans". I quickly cook the beans in a big pot of salted water, just till they're bright green, then cool them quickly and refrigerate. Then I get an oval platter, stack up the beans neatly cross-wise down the platter, and put spoonfuls of the chunky vinaigrette down the middle. It's beautiful and delicious. It's a great thing to bring to summer potlucks.

    2. My all-time favorite Silver Palate recipe which I have made over and over again, using different variations, is Chicken Marbella.

      I have made the original, and some less salty ( no olives,no capers) version, whipping up the marinade in the blender and placing in a heavy duty Freezer Baggie to marinate. I often add prunes, Apricots, lemon juice and lemons instead of vinegar.

      The technique of just putting it on a baking sheet, makes it simple and delicious.

      Everyone loves this dish and requests the recipe.

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      1. re: Fleur

        Descriptions of this dish were the reason I bought the book. I definitely want to try it soon!

        1. re: Fleur

          This is my go-to dish when I need to prep in advance and have a lot of people coming. It's good hot or cold. I find it works better w/ dark meat chicken.

          1. re: chowser

            Two questions on Marbella -- coming soon to my kitchen :)

            1. I would like to try it with boneless skinless breasts -- have any of you tried it like that? We are not fans of dark meat here... I was going to try with legs/thighs but we just don't like that. Plus, boneless skinless are on SALE this week!

            2. We can't cook with alcohol, and this recipe calls for one cup of white wine. Should I omit it or substitute for something else? I'm trying to think *what* that might be -- Fleur adds lemon juice, which doesn't seem winelike to me, but it IS tart and at least would accent the dish with another flavor.

            1. re: foxy fairy

              I honestly wouldn't try roasting skinless chicken breasts, because you'll end up with very dry meat. If you wanted to try doing something with similar flavors to Marbella, I'd suggest maybe making the marinade as you wish (lemon or whatever substitute for wine), marinating the chicken, then maybe cooking the chicken on the stovetop in the marinade. There's nothing in the marinade that needs long cooking, so it might work.

              Or cook the marinated chicken (I'd be tempted to pound or butterfly it out flat) quickly, then remove from the pan, then boil the marinade ingredients and pour over the chicken.

              1. re: Kagey

                Hmmm-- good point on the dry-factor, and exactly what I was thinking. I guess I could marinate the breasts and grill, but I think I'll save that for another time. This time, I really want to follow the guidelines for cooking set out in the recipe, and when I pointed out that it would be too try this way, my sweety was arguing that it would be fine.... I guess I'll either do a whole chicken or break down and do the legs.

                Do you think the lemon juice would work for the wine??

                1. re: foxy fairy

                  I'm not sure about the substitute for wine. I'd probably go with the lemon juice. I think others have asked the general question about wine substitutes before, and you may have luck searching the Home Cooking board.

                  As for chicken breasts, if they have skin on they might work for this recipe. You could always remove the skin before eating (as heretical as that might sound). But I think part of the point of the recipe is that the seasonings mix with the chicken juices (mostly fat, unless you use a whole chicken), and the breasts don't really yield any juices. So I think you're right to go with a whole chicken, or just legs, to stay within the guidelines of the recipe. At least for the first time. But I still think that the ingredients would probably lend themselves well to a sort of tagine-style thing, cooked in a pot. Chicken breasts would work in that case, boned thighs probably even better.

                  1. re: Kagey

                    For the white wine substitute, you can use a mixture of chicken stock, white grape juice and vinegar. That is what i usually use (although I use the fruit juice I have around).

                    1. re: Kagey

                      Great ideas from you both -- thank you. I hadn't even thought of white grape juice/vinegar -- perfect, and I just made my own stock (using Silver Palate recipe)! I have convinced sweety and we're going with a small whole chicken.

                      Next question -- HOW DO WE QUARTER IT??? I was veggie for years, so this will be my first time facing off with a carcass... I'm a pretty accomplished veggie cook, but just getting into preparing meat. For the quartering, I found tips online, but any CH tips?? gulp!

                      http://food.ivillage.com/cooking/0,,8...

                      1. re: foxy fairy

                        I cut up chickens all the time and even I had a bit of difficulty following the instructions you linked to. Take a look at these. I think they're a bit clearer:

                        http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/ck_dm...

                        I'm a firm believer in using poultry or kitchen shears, if you have them, for removing the backbone. Much, much easier than using a knife. I also use shears for splitting the breastbone if I'm not removing it entirely as is shown here.

                        1. re: JoanN

                          I use a big Chinese cleaver....well, it's not actually THAT big, to cut up chicken. It's really great for cutting off the legs and wings, as well as whacking the backbone. I also think kitchen shears are very good. for this job.

                        2. re: foxy fairy

                          I usually ask the butcher to cut up the chicken for me. I know, it's the easy way out, but hey, it's a lot easier.

                          1. re: JasmineG

                            Oh, I like that idea -- quite a bit!

                    2. re: Kagey

                      I've had Chicken Marbella twice (once somebody gave some to me and I also made it myself) and both times the white meat chicken was very dry. I ended up not liking it because of that. I think that you either need to figure a way to take out the breasts before the dish is finished or start them later....Can't remember the recipe procedures well enough to tell if this would work. I'd go with the dark meat.

                      1. re: oakjoan

                        Thanks, everyone, for great tips. I'm going with a small whole chicken (I did end up finding one less than three pounds, at the kosher butcher). Hopefully this should help me overcome the dry factor.

                        Per Jasmine's suggestion, I requested that the butcher quarter it for me - no problem. I'm going to marinate it tonight and serve for dinner tomorrow. Do you guys just marinate for one night, or longer? She says in the recipe that it's better after more time in the fridge, but I think she means once it is cooked? I could certainly marinate longer if it tastes better that way...

                        1. re: foxy fairy

                          Yeah, it's better after a day or two in the fridge cooked. But I'd only marinate for one night. Also, I don't know if you've read other posts about it, but another poster and I both found that using a big pan made the juices spread out a bit and evaporate. So I'd definitely suggest using a pan that's just big enough to hold the parts, if you have one. Good luck. I can't wait to hear how it turns out for you.

                          1. re: Kagey

                            Yeah, my husband liked it a lot the first night, but absolutely raved about the leftovers. I never got any, so can't say whether or not I'd have liked it better.

                    3. re: foxy fairy

                      Weighing in late on this, I have done it with chicken breasts only, w/ skin and bones and it was dry. If you were going to try it, I'd go w/ Kagey's suggestion on pounding flat and pan frying--almost like a chicken marsala.

                      1. re: foxy fairy

                        Sorry, I am coming to this discussion a little bit late. I, too, am a devoted fan of the original SP Chicken Marbella recipe, but several years ago Eating Well magazine did their own take on the recipe, lightening it up and making it more healthy. Their version is also much quicker -- it doesn't call for marinating the chicken, instead you do a quick simmer of the sauce ingredients in a saucepan. Their recipe also calls for boneless, skinless chicken breasts that bake in the oven. I have made this recipe as well numerous times -- my husband actually likes this lighter version better. It's not the original, of course, but for a quick, weekday night supper it's pretty good!

                        http://eatingwell.com/recipes/chicken...

                    4. re: Fleur

                      It's a favorite of mine as well, and I've done several variations with different fruits as well. I have to say, though, after the first time I made it, I dropped the amount of oregano called for down to only a teaspoon. I found it overwhelmed the dish otherwise.

                      1. re: Fleur

                        One of my favorite recipes of all time. Chicken marbella was my first dinner party entree when I first moved away from mom & dad. Berta's chopped liver as an appy, and 'the' Carrot Cake for dessert, I had an impressive and mostly made ahead dinner.

                        1. re: Fleur

                          Believe my family is the onle one that did not like Chicken Marbella. It was far too sweet for our tastes and had too many heavy flavors that competed with each other. Their chili with olives was also far too heavy and tended to "repeat" on all 12 of us that ate it one Sunday.

                          I have also found that their ingredient proportions are a bit off and do not seem well tested to go from a huge portion that the store made down to a home kitchen level. Perhaps I have not made enough recipes from the books?

                          I do like the green bean with orange recipe- very light and tasty. Their menu planning and tips are helpful, so I'm not going to part with the books just yet.

                          1. re: tall sarah

                            I totally agree on portion sizes: as I said about their ceviche recipe, it makes a TON -- they say that it serves 8 as an appetizer, and I think that it's more like 16.

                        2. The Silver Palate opened on Columbus Avenue in Manhattan in 1977, the same year I moved to the Upper West Side. My friends and I used to go there often. This was before “take-out” was ubiquitous in every supermarket. You could buy a meal or, as we did more often, buy hors d’oeuvres, cheeses, and breads to tide us over until dinner got out of the oven. One of our favorites was their Paté Maison with Calvados and dried currants. I still remember how thrilled we were when the book was published and there was the recipe. No cheating, either; it was the real thing.

                          I made that paté for years. I used to bring it as a hostess gift. I’d pack it in crocks for holiday presents. And then I just didn’t make it any more. Did I tire of it? Was it just that paté went out of fashion? I’m sort of tempted to try it again, but have no appropriate occasion coming up. And truth to tell, I’m afraid that what appealed to my palate 25 and 30 years ago might not today. Anyone else remember this recipe? Fondly or otherwise?

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                          1. re: JoanN

                            Thanks for sharing your memories of the storefront, JoanN. To be honest, The Silver Palate has never really been on my radar until now. I'm a west coaster and was just 6 yrs. old when their store opened, so I overlooked this book when I started seriously cooking and buying cookbooks. My mother never owned it and I faintly remember seeing it on the shelves at friends' houses. I voted for Dean & Deluca but after having looked over my library copy of the SP, I'm very excited to try a few recipes!

                            My initial impressions of the book and recipes are that they are very accessible, conducive to weeknight meals, and call for good and widely-available ingredients. Many utilize my pantry staples, so I think it will be alot easier for me to try a recipe w/o having to spend too much time or $ procuring specialty items. The jacket description says the book is geared to the "working society" which I can appreciate since I work full-time and yet prefer to eat in most nights of the week. All of these factors along w/ the fact that page after page read like a "greatest hits" collection will hopefully mean that I will be participating more this month. BTW, is there only an online store at this time? If so, what was the fate of the storefront?

                            Recipes I've tagged (feel free to give any feedback):

                            curried butternut squash soup
                            winter borscht
                            chicken marbella (of course!)
                            chicken breasts baked on a bed of wild mushrooms
                            chicken dijonnaise
                            beef carbonnade
                            beef stroganoff
                            has anyone tried making the braised short ribs?
                            ginger candied carrots
                            wild mushroom soup
                            autumn apple and walnut salad
                            banana bread (I like that they use some whole wheat flour)
                            medieval apple tart
                            ginger pumpkin mousse
                            orange cake
                            buckwheat crepes

                            1. re: Carb Lover

                              I no longer recall exactly, but I don't think the storefront lasted much longer than a decade. Somewhere along the way, Lukins, who had been a caterer, and Rosso, who was the marketing person, had a falling out. The authors have always claimed that the press made it into a bigger brouhaha than it actually was and, indeed, they are now back together promoting the 25th anniversary edition of the book. I suspect that the tremendous popularity of the books and the commercializing of their branded products left them with little time or inclination to run the shop.

                              1. re: Carb Lover

                                I can personally say the curried squash soup is fantastic- don't have the original recipe on hand, but I remember just a dash of olive oil, a really good granny smith, maybe a couple dashes more of curry powder? It's quite fun to play with, either to dress up or to suit your fancy.

                                1. re: chocolatstiletto

                                  I made the curried squash soup once a while back too, but the thing I really remember is that I used a Granny Smith and regretted using an apple that was so sour! To me, the sourness got in the way of the soup's flavor. But hey, different opinions make the world go round!

                                  1. re: Kagey

                                    Another poster just posted an adaptation of "CURRIED BUTTERNUT SQUASH AND APPLE SOUP"

                                    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/45445...

                              2. re: JoanN

                                I just picked up a super cheap, used copy of SP and am re-reading this thread. I'm wondering, Joan, if you ever resolved your paté curiosity?

                                ~TDQ

                              3. Has anyone made the ginger pumpkin mousse? I'm really in the mood for an easy pumpkin dessert and this looks like it could be it. My only concern is that the gelatin powder isn't dissolved into a little liquid first like other gelatin-based desserts I've made. It's directly added to the creamed sugar and eggs. Is this ok? Can someone confirm that this recipes works? Thanks.

                                1. The recipe I love most from that book is the veal stew with cepes. It's the only time I cook with veal and is always well received, especially by weary travellers.

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                                  1. re: waver

                                    My copy of the SP is falling apart, but I would never trade it in for a new one, so many happy memories between the pages of the tattered one. I too made mounds of that pate with calvados and have recently been thinking of resurrecting it for a Christmas party. I made lots of that salmon mousse too. I still use their recipe for turkey (with cheesecloth on it) every Christmas. The sour cream coffeecake and the carrot cake still get made occasionally.

                                  2. The Silver Palate is number one on my profile's list of most tattered cookbooks. It's one of those rare cookbooks where the recipes are simple but not simplistic.

                                    CarbLover's post reminded me that the Curried Butternut Squash Soup is solidly in my rotation. Other dishes that I've made multiple times:

                                    --Beef Stew with Cumin Seed (actually, though, what makes this are the olives and the tons of garlic!)

                                    --Cornbread Apple stuffing -- I've made it every year for Thanksgiving for at least ten years now.

                                    --Rice Vegetable salad -- excellent for potlucks, especially if the food is going to be sitting around, since it doesn't have any high-spoilage ingredients. Note that when it says "serves 8-10" it means as an entree -- a large entree. I mean, it *starts* with 8 cups of cooked rice, and then you add about the same volume of vegetables. I usually make a half recipe and it's still enough for a buffet/potluck for 20. I've also made it a day in advance, up through adding the dressing to the hot rice and prepping the veggies, and then tossed the veggies in at the last minute.

                                    --Gingerbread -- really good, really easy.

                                    I'm sure there are others that aren't coming to mind right now....

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                                    1. re: Ruth Lafler

                                      I am debating this rice salad (p 214), or their nutted wild rice (p 345) for Thanksgiving, as I need something that I can serve room temp, and I have to travel with it for 2 hours. I would like to use the Forbidden Rice - that pretty black rice. How do you think that would be with this salad? Would this work for Thanksgiving (of foodies)? I like the wild amount of veggies in this rice, and I think it would look really pretty - the black rice with the jewel tones of the purple onion, red pepper, bright green herbs...

                                      Leeks nicoise (*p 184) is on the list of maybes for Thanksgiving, too...

                                      1. re: foxy fairy

                                        I think the rice salad would be really pretty with the black rice, and I'm sure it would be delicious. But if I were going to make it with black rice, I think I'd substitute coarsely chopped dried cranberries (especially for Thanksgiving!) for the currants -- then you'd have red on black instead of black on black. If you want to keep the colors bright, you can pack the prepared herbs and veggies separately and then add them to the dressed rice (the dressing has to go on the rice while it's still hot to absorb properly) at your destination.

                                        1. re: foxy fairy

                                          Just a small caveat -- can you be reasonably sure the other attendees can cope with black rice? I made black rice for some members of my family, who are pretty open-minded about food (for Minnesotans), but even though they're familiar with wild rice, the black rice was a bit much. They ate it, but they didn't seem to agree with me about how beautiful it was.

                                          1. re: Karen_Schaffer

                                            Wow. Good point. We're a pretty mixed bunch, but you never know. I might go for my spaghetti squash casserole instead, b/c I just learned that some oven space will indeed be available for me. Thank you for the warning :)

                                      2. Mine opens to the brownie recipe, and I've made it a lot (though after the success that I've had with the Superlative Brownies, I'd replace half of the sugar with brown sugar in the future). I also have lots of stains on the pumpkin pie page (and I think that I might try the pecan pie, in the page opposite, for Thanksgiving this year!). The Sour Cream Coffee Cake (page 321) is one of the things that I've made over and over again, and while I love almost everything about it, the outside gets a little too browned for my taste, so I usually end up eating all but the crust (but those who love very brown crusts love it). I also adore the cheese straws (a classic), the stuffed mushrooms, and the seviche (though it makes a LOT, cut the recipe in half unless you're feeding at least 15 people).

                                          1. Has anyone made the Pate Maison -- chicken liver pate?
                                            I'm thinking of making for an app for Thanksgiving eve.

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                                            1. re: NYchowcook

                                              See my comment on it here:

                                              http://www.chowhound.com/topics/45624...

                                              I've been sorely tempted to try it again, but have no opportunity coming up for which it would be appropriate. If you do make it, I'll be especially eager to hear what you think.

                                            2. Question regarding Marinated Eggplant Livia p. 326

                                              I'm going to make this today (needs to marinate for three days) for sandwiches on Thanksgiving Eve... for "two small dried red chilies" what kind would be best? I have ancho chiles but I feel like they mean something else here - those tiny ones? Or would ancho chiles be okay?

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                                              1. re: foxy fairy

                                                The main difference with ancho as opposed to dried red chiles (like chile de arbol, for example), is that anchos are not only larger, but smoked so the flavor would be different. You could also substitute with red pepper flakes. This is on my list to try, I hope to get to it before the end of the month. The picture in the anniversary edition makes it look so good.

                                              2. Has anyone made the Salmon Mousse? I was thinking about it as a Thanksgiving appetizer, any feedback.

                                                1. Ah! With only five days left for SP, I made a list last night of all of the dishes I still want to cram into the menu this week. Hmm. I'd like to make those toffee bars (partly b/c I was soooo disappointed by the decadent chocolate cake, see Sweets) and also the rice vegetable salad, the spicy sesame noodles with sesame mayo, many many more.

                                                  I'm so excited that I've really gone crazy with COTM this time, because I've had this cookbook for two years and often thought, "oo that looks good." Check out my report on (my version of) Big Bread Sandwich on the Brunch thread - one of the recipes I've wanted to try since buying the book! ;) What a dazzler!

                                                  What are the SP dishes you guys are trying to cram in before the end of the month???

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                                                  1. re: foxy fairy

                                                    These are the ones I have tabbed still:

                                                    The spicy sesame noodles too
                                                    Salmon mousse (or maybe the crab variation in Good Times)
                                                    Veal scallops in mustard cream sauce
                                                    Hunter's style carrots
                                                    Pureed broccoli with creme fraiche
                                                    White bean and sausage soup (I'm going to use turkey stock and turkey kielbasa)
                                                    Big bread sandwich and the marinated eggplant (you convinced me!)

                                                    Hopefully I'll get to do at least half of them.

                                                    1. re: foxy fairy

                                                      I had such a long list of dishes at the beginning of the month, and even bought a container of creme fraiche because so many recipes called for it. Alas, with Thanksgiving and all, I didn't get to many of them, and the creme fraiche is still unopened. But I really enjoyed what I did do and reading about what others did. I hope to get back to SP in January, even though it won't be COTM anymore. Btw, I enjoyed your enthusiasm, foxy fairy!

                                                      1. re: Karen_Schaffer

                                                        I'm afraid that December is going to take the same toll on my participation that November took on yours. I see the masses of presents to be bought and wrapped, the cards to be sent, the decorations to be put up, and I can't imagine finding the time for extra cooking. I'll try, but I have some serious doubts. Oh well, there will be other months!

                                                        1. re: LulusMom

                                                          Aidez-moi, aidez-moi!

                                                          I tried to create the med. apple tart and ran in to some problems:
                                                          1) a mound? of apples? I ended up with a ton extra - so I started to create a little apple fort.... still with lots extra

                                                          2) Covering the "mound." Clearly, you have to wrap it like you're bandaging a knee... hmmmm.... nothing in the directions about that...

                                                          3) So, any guesses why my tart became a flaming tart in the oven? I trimmed as directed, scraped off the extra phyllo.... then got yelled at by the scary voice in my fire alert as smoke poured out of my oven...

                                                          what went wrong?

                                                    2. The zucchini bread is amazing! I baked it for a party and served it in slices -- everyone who tried it had the most blissful look on their face. And people kept asking if I'd sprinkled sugar on top, to get a crispy crust, but I hadn't! It just bakes up that way. Anyone else made it?