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Livonia, Mi. Visitor: UPDATE

meatn3 Oct 31, 2007 07:17 PM

Many thanks for all the help from your earlier responses - I extended my stay since there was so much to eat!

On the itinerary:
Parmenters for cider, Steve's Deli ( Bloomfield Hills), Five Lakes Grill (Milford)
For Toledo day: Schmuckers for breakfast, Revolver (Findlay) for dinner
Cedar Lands (Dearborn)
Cantoro's Italian Market for supplies (hotel has kitchenette)

On the short list:
for Ann Arbor day (probably a Sunday) Metzgers and perhaps a peek at Zimmermans
Livonia area (late dinners): Jim Brady's, Zinc, Shangri-La, Steve & Rocky's
Fish & Chips: Scotty Simpson's, Hope's or Jesse's ??? Which one, why?
Detroit excursions: Polish Village Cafe or ...
Might be able to do American Harvest for dinner
Might be meeting at Vinotec Bar. Is food good, or should I eat before/after?

Still searching for:
Late day breakfast offerings around Novi/Livonia
Had read of an amazing shop specializing in Pirogies, lost the info. Any ideas?

Open to fine-tuning input. Realize I'm skipping Bar-B-Q & Mexican, but had to make some tough choices and I have frequent access to very good sources of these at home.

This makes me realize I should have named myself "have fork, will travel"!
Thanks for your time and input.

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    SonyBob Nov 8, 2007 10:06 AM

    If I had a choice between Diamond Jim Brady's and Steve and Rocky's in Novi, I would choose Diamond Jim's. I like the bistro atmosphere and love the owners. Just personal, I guess.
    Bob

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      boagman Nov 8, 2007 10:59 AM

      Oh, man, that's not *even* a choice. DJB's all the way! I have as of yet to be disappointed in DJB's any time I've ever been there. Steve & Rocky's gets mixed reviews, and from what I've seen, it's really not all that impressive. I've never heard a bad review of DJB's, ever. I'm sure that there are some out there, but that's not been my experience, and overall, DJB's is highly regarded.

      Again: it's not even a choice.

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        meatn3 Nov 9, 2007 07:31 PM

        I'm here! Arrived the other evening,was very tired & didn't want to drive much. So went to DJB, descriptions sounded low key & soul satisfying. It was wonderful. Very comfy for a solo diner, service was personal & friendly w/o being intrusive. Was looking for lighter fare, had the steak sandwich (which was a hard choice, everything looked so good).It was the most tender cut I've ever had on a steak sandwich. I'm not usually a fan of seasoned fries, but these were quite good. They never got soggy! Considered bringing one back to the hotel to study, but too much to do! :) Was going to Cranbrook today, so worked in Penzey's (so nice to sniff & shop rather than mail order) and Steve's Deli for lunch. NC is not known for good deli, so I try to squeeze some in when ever possible. Very nice corned beef, cabbage soup hit the taste-bud memories - just like grandmas! Met a friend for dinner in Milford at Five Lakes Grill. We were early, so got to bond with our server. Consequently,service was great! Dinner was very good too. She had trout without a hint of leftovers (my bite was tasty). I had duck, flavor & texture was wonderful. The sides were well chosen & perfectly cooked. Shared the Farmers Plate, various (5 perhaps) sausages & such. Nice presentation. Enough for 1-2 bites each. Several were exceptional, the rest were quite nice. Skipped desert, too full... Wine by the glass had good selections. We hadn't seen each other in 3 years, so lots of chatting. Server was wonderful, did not rush us at all. Both of us have been in the biz, so we appreciated it very much, especially knowing it was a Fri.night. tomorrow, Toledo & Revolver for dinner. Maybe Ann Arbor on Sunday... The gray skies make the leaf color pop! All your input has already made this a lovely trip! Me & my very full belly thank you!

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          SonyBob Nov 10, 2007 06:01 PM

          I'm glad you liked Diamond Jim's. Tom and Mary Brady are very nice people.
          Bob

    2. coney with everything Nov 1, 2007 07:18 AM

      Pierogies--was it Jennies in Garden City (Middlebelt road)? They're good, my Polish sister in law swears by them too.

      Your agenda sounds very good. I can't think of any breakfast spots in Livonia that are more than a two eggs over easy type place. You might as well go to the nearest Coney Island for that type of breakfast.

      Cantoros--EXCELLENT! Try their olive rosemary bread...yum. There is also an Indian market around the corner on 8 Mile, just east of Middlebelt, next to the Pepperidge Farm store. If they have fresh samosa, they are great.

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      1. re: coney with everything
        meatn3 Nov 5, 2007 12:40 AM

        Jennies didn't ring a bell. But it got me searching again & I found the one I remembered: Lilas
        http://www.lilaspierogi.com/index.html

        Thanks to all for the input.

        Would love someone to give an opinion re: the fish & chips places!

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          Jim M Nov 5, 2007 04:37 AM

          I've only been to Scotty's, and it's very good. Note that it's in a decaying neighborhood of Detroit; for a visitor it's probably best to go during daylight hours (although the people in the area seem to keep an eye on the place). It's a throwback to the 1950s, basically, with homemade coleslaw and tartar sauce. The fish is *very* crispy, and the texture holds up even if you douse it in vinegar (that's what makes for good fried fish IMO). Another advantage is that you can choose your fish--perch is available, for example, and I think they have frog legs too.

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            Jim M Nov 5, 2007 08:11 AM

            PS--however, as it is in heaven, at Scotty's there is no beer.

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              dearborn barkis Nov 6, 2007 10:09 AM

              except Stewart's Ginger Beer, of course ;)

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                boagman Nov 6, 2007 12:12 PM

                Yeah, but they've not been able to get the Stewart's Ginger Beer for quite a while, now. It's not a problem with Scotty's at all...it's a national distribution problem having to do with some posturing by Cadbury/Schwepps that's caused Scotty's to not have the oh-so-good ginger beer that really "completes" the meal.

                Still, the food itself is fan-freaking-tastic, and yes: they do have frog legs.

          2. re: meatn3
            dearborn barkis Nov 6, 2007 11:50 AM

            Yes. Lila's Pierogi at 27811 Five Mile Road between Middlebelt and Inkster sells nothing but frozen homemade pierogi in 20 flavors, including mushroom & mozzarella and mushroom & onion. Delicious.

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          grouper Nov 1, 2007 04:44 AM

          If you're referring to Vinoteca in Royal Oak. It's the kind of place that we meet for great wine and appetizers and then move on to somewhere else. I've heard Bastone, next door, has good food. We usually move to Little Tree for sushi.

          1. meatn3 Nov 1, 2007 12:13 AM

            Edit:
            Livonia area: {late dinner) Cherry Blossom

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