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finally a non-plussed throwdown victim?

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i'm catching bits of one of bobby flay's "throwdowns," where he "takes on," in this case, an ice cream maker. i've always hated this show, as i find the concept of tricking talented people into thinking they have a shot at tv, only to find themselves being asked to pit their life's passion, or at least their major talent, against that smug bobby flay rather offensive.

from what i caught, this ice-cream maker (name escapes me...i'm doing laundry) was not only displeased at the trickery, but didn't seem to even recognize bobby flay. anyone else catch this?

what happens to these unwitting contestants after their, uh..."throwdowns?" or are they as unwitting as they seem?

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  1. Didn't recognize Bobby? That would have been great!

    "Who is this schlemiel you brought into MY pilot episode? Helloooo? WHERE IS THAT *(@&*~!*()!@&* PRODUCER??? Hey, beginner's luck, pal, step off, m'kay?"

    1. Was it Izzy's Ice Cream in St. Paul MN? http://www.chowhound.com/topics/322001

      ~TDQ

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      1. re: The Dairy Queen

        sounds like the one. i remember seeing the episode when it first aired. IIRC, he called someone to tell them that bobby "fay" had shown up to challenge him. he really had no idea who bobby was!

        1. re: The Dairy Queen

          Yes it was Izzy's Ice Cream - saw it last night.

          1. re: Jeanne

            Love it! Izzy's is a much-beloved ice cream shop, owned by a former school teacher. In addition to producing great ice cream, they've made their stamp by being incredibly neighborhood-focused. Every year they sponsor a "People's Flavor" awards where people invent ice cream flavors, Izzy's makes them, then gives away free cones for a day to everyone who comes in and votes for their favorite flavor. The winner's flavor is featured in the dipping cabinets for the next year.

            http://www.izzysicecream.com/flavorco...

            If you're name is Izzy, they'll give you a free ice cream cone, snap a poloroid photo, and put your picture on the wall.

            Their facility is entirely solar powered, which they funded by donations from their neighbors and customers.

            I can't help but have a certain satisfaction that the Izzy's-folks aren't star struck.

            ~TDQ

        2. YES - izzy's ice cream. He did seem a bit upset, I thought. I wonder what kind of trickery the food network folks used on him. Usually, the ppl. know Flay..not this guy. Which, I really liked.

          1. I don't think Izzy was upset, I think he just didn't know who Bobby Flay was or why he should bother taking part in the Throwdown. The thing about the show is that the people do get featured on a Food Network show that's about their famous food, but the show is Throwdown and not what they were told originally. But they're still being featured on FN doing what they do best, not a bad thing as far as I can tell.

            If you want to see a guy upset, wait till you see the doughnut throwdown!

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            1. re: Buckethead

              Did his machine break or something? I wish they would rerun that one.

            2. That's what I always think when I watch this show. What a disappointment it is to think you may have your very own TV show and then you don't. Kinda cruel.

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              1. re: Azizeh Barjesteh

                Just to clarify again, the throwees are NOT told that they're going to have their "very own TV show" or a "pilot episode" but rather that they're being featured in a program related to their specialty. I think Buckethead nailed it on the (bucket)head above, but there seems to be some lingering confusio.

                1. re: youngho

                  I am pretty sure I've heard them say they told the people they were filming a pilot. The one that's on right now, about ice cream sundae's, he just said she believed she's the star of a show about beating the heat. Maybe I misunderstand what they say, but I remember not long ago, my boyfriend and I were watching an episode and thought the same thing, that they were told they had a pilot.

                  1. re: Azizeh Barjesteh

                    You're right! I was wrong. Just watched the beginning that episode again. Still, even when the show has presented the throwees as starring in an episode of some new series like "Beat the Heat" or being featured a Food Network special (like the chili or mac and cheese one), I assume that the throwees still understood that this was likely to be a one-shot deal, i.e. that this was a possible series that would feature a different person or place each week. For example, how many episodes could the Chili Queen or Captain Disco (steak) possibly have expected to make? Do you think that Julia Reynolds from "Ice Cream Man" in Greenwich NY (which, by the way, proudly displays their appearance on Throwdown on their website) expected a whole series about ice cream ("This week, we'll make strawberry ice cream. Tune in next week for praline delight!"). Or that Tony Luke anticipated a series about cheesesteak ("This week with onions and provolone. Next week, no onions but instead peppers and provolone. The week after, we talk about Cheez Wiz")? Or that the Pinks thought there was potential for dozens of episodes about hot dogs, even if they have such a huge menu? Personally, I doubt it, but it would be impossible to know without talking directly to the throwees or reading their blogs.

                    As for throwees' reactions to the throwdowns themselves, which can be mixed, and understandably so, here is one: http://www.slashfood.com/2006/07/24/c...

                    And another: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?ne...

                    And another: http://www.boothbayregister.maine.com...

                    Also, I was interested to read this post (http://culocho.blogspot.com/2006/08/t...) , which had commentary from a judge who appeared on Throwdown. I think the last comment on the linked post sums up my feelings about the show, although point #1 should say that Flay wins about 30% of the throwdowns, and point #2 should have been amended to include competition winners, in addition to the professionals (chefs, owners, etc).

                    In the end, even if the throwees feelings are hurt, I do have to say that it's still great publicity for the throwees, assuming that they rise to the challenge. I went to Philadelphia once 10 years ago, but I'll remember the name Tony Luke. If I'm ever in Greenwich NY, I'll check out the Ice Cream Man. I walked by A Salt & Battery (I'd just eaten already, unfortunately) when visiting NYC a few months ago and said "Hey, I saw that place on Throwdown!" The throwees were featured in a show on Food Network, even if it's for only 11 minutes instead of 22, and they can forever after say that they were featured on the Food Network, whether they won or lost (for examples of the latter, check the websites for Historic Inns of Rockland, Lobster Dock, also as mentioned above Ice Cream Man).

                    Anyway, that's my last word on the subject.