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anything new in the White Plains/Port Chester/Rye area?

KarenNYC Oct 28, 2007 05:01 AM

We are planning our monthly girls night out and I wanted to try someplace new. I always end up making the recco as I usually dine out more often than my friends and I am stumped. We've done Nessa, Watermoon, Sunset Grille, Lexington Square Cafe, Blue and many more but I know there have been a bunch of new places arriving on the scene lately in mid-westchester and I have been focusing more on CT lately so any ideas????? I am open to any type of food and price is not an issue - just as long as it can handle a table of 8.


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    noclue8 Oct 28, 2007 07:27 AM

    I have been really addicted to F.I.S.H lately, I want to try every single thing on the menu it is awesome! But not really "new"

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      KarenNYC Oct 28, 2007 07:51 AM

      that has been around for ages and is definitely yummy - we used to go all the time but it has fallen off my radar with so many newer places to try but thanks for reminding me of an oldie but goodie!

      1. re: KarenNYC
        laylag Oct 30, 2007 07:22 AM

        Hi Karen - note on Nessa - someone on another thread said the chef left and that after many excellent experiences they've now had a decidedly mediocre one. Have you been lately? Have you heard anything?

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          MRS Oct 30, 2007 11:09 AM

          Is this true? Oh no!

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            laylag Oct 30, 2007 02:39 PM

            Now, according to another hound it seems he's back. Maybe he was... I don't know... on vacation? Not sure what to make of it - see thread below MRS.


      2. re: noclue8
        wm3 Oct 29, 2007 04:14 PM

        Agree with going to F. I .S. H. Went in Sat nite, great food. They've enclosed the deck ( and enlarged) and have heaters so you can enjoy the views. They were having a halloween party and band, lots of FUN!!

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        jeanki Oct 28, 2007 09:08 AM

        In White Plains, Trotters closed and is now Peniche, a tapas place owned by the same chef owner, and another place will open called '42' in the Ritz Carlton (not open yet). Peniche looks very hip.

        There are a couple new Italian places too, La Bocca on Church St and Antipasti on 1 North Broadway. Coughlan's American Bistro closed and is now Prophecy, some sort of new american joint. dont know how they are.

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          craiger1ny Oct 31, 2007 08:00 PM

          Had a great meal at La Bocca 2 weeks ago. The atmosphere is nice, the food was tasty. Service left a lot to be desired, especially considering how uncrowded it was on a Sunday night!

          Regardless, I recommend checking it out.

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            Wizzapizza Nov 1, 2007 12:07 PM


            I haven't been, but I've heard La Bocca is pricey considering the quality of the food. Your thoughts?

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              craiger1ny Nov 1, 2007 09:04 PM

              I wasn't as conscious of that because someone else picked up the tab. I would say that the price is a little high, but not out of reach.

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                wplady Nov 3, 2007 02:31 PM

                I am at La Bocca a couple of times a week...since they opened and love the place. I think the food is excellent. I don't really find it pricey for a fine restaurant. Once you get to know the owner, you are one of the family.

                Antipasti is not opened as of yet. Their grand opening is set for Nov. 15th. They better hurry up. They are working like crazy to have it ready. They have done a beautiful job on it, but it has a little ways to go.

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          taorye Oct 28, 2007 05:17 PM

          Been to Morgan's in Rye? Little pricey, but excellent seafood. Same owners/operators as Ruby's and Rye Grill/Bar, but better food. Been a bunch without a bad meal.

          1. adamclyde Oct 28, 2007 08:20 PM

            if copa cabana is open in Port Chester, it might be worth a try. No one on the boards here has tried it yet, but it looks like it's going to be an upscale churrascaria in the space of pantanal (next to paleteria fernandez). A recent post here said it was going to be $30 per head for, presumably, unlimited meat (and possibly salad)... depends on how they run it there.

            If you go, definitely let us know how it is.

            - Adam

            1. bosun Oct 31, 2007 10:28 AM

              This might be a crazy rec, and I've never eaten there myself, but recently I had a friend tell me that Legal Seafood (WP) was quite good. The reason I mention this is because her father owned a seafood restaurant for over 40 years (in westchester) and he gave Legal his stamp of approval. They say the selection is always freah and tasty.

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                laylag Nov 1, 2007 11:25 AM

                It's not crazy bosun. When I was in Boston many years ago Legal was a local seafood restaurant located in The Boston Park Plaza that had, I believe, only one other location in the suburbs. It was a very good, well-reviewed seafood place with fresh, tasty food. We didn't eat there often because my uncle was the executive chef at another quality seafood restaurant in Boston but the few times we did go to Legal we were pleased.

                Many years later when I lived in Miami for a time, I was shocked to find out Legal had become a chain with a restaurant in Broward County.We went a few times - it was the only place we could find to get real steamers - Ipswich clams not steamed hardshells and one of the few that served quality Maine, not Florida -lobsters and fried whole clams - with bellies - New England style seafood. All the food was fresh and most of it still quite good.

                Now in Westchester I've only been to the WP Legal once and we did have a very good meal. Considering the dearth of solid seafood places in Westchester particularly at less than exhorbitant price points, I'm not surprised to hear the recommendation.

                Generally, I dislike chains and franchises for a multitude of reasons but imo, Legal is not a bad option at all.

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                RawTunaFan Oct 31, 2007 08:02 PM

                The folks that own Lusardis and Moscato are supposed to open up a new cafe in Scarsdale village...last I heard was this Spring. That should be interesting...

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                1. re: RawTunaFan
                  dolores Nov 1, 2007 04:50 AM

                  KarenNYC, these places were voted 'Restaurants of the Year' in the free magazine 'In Town'. I don't agree with Tango Grill but haven't been to the others. For your consideration:

                  One - Irvington; Asian Temptation - White Plains; Zuppa - Yonkers; Croton Creek Steakhouse - Croton Falls; Zitoune - Mamaroneck; Tango Grill - White Plains; Wobble Cafe - Ossining; Trattoria Lucia - Bedford; Morgan's Fish House - Rye; and Chiboust - Tarrytown.

                  1. re: dolores
                    RawTunaFan Nov 1, 2007 10:26 AM

                    In Town magazine is totally political and only give press to their advertisers!

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                      dolores Nov 1, 2007 10:50 AM


                      Well, I always decide for myself but since these were new to me, I thought they might be new to KarenNYC.

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                        laylag Nov 1, 2007 11:32 AM

                        I've seen good chowhound comments/reviews on several of those listed specifically Morgan's and Wobble Cafe. Zitoune was alternatively bashed and lauded here when they opened and then the few more comments when they had smoothed out were pretty positive.

                        That said, In Town is not a credible source so it's worth searching the restaurants they named on this site before heading out.

                        1. re: laylag
                          momof3 Nov 1, 2007 02:38 PM

                          Just for the record....neither Morgans nor Wobble advertise with InTown.

                    2. re: dolores
                      luv2eatct May 23, 2008 07:12 AM

                      Dolores what is the name of that italian place in new rochelle who's chef came from italy. You reccommended it a while back. Its a word of mouth place

                      1. re: luv2eatct
                        dolores May 23, 2008 08:08 AM

                        luv2eatct: Spadaro, 211 E. Main St., 914-235-4595.

                  2. Wizzapizza Nov 1, 2007 12:11 PM

                    There is a fondue resto (part of a chain) called Melting Pot, opening on Mamaroneck Ave in WP near City center. Also, there is some sort of place (under construction) w/ a kitchen building permit posted opening to the left of Brazen Fox, as you face it from Mamaroneck.

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                    1. re: Wizzapizza
                      plowthor Feb 25, 2008 07:45 PM

                      Brazen Fox is a beautiful place. Almost brasserie-esque in its interior design. I ate brunch there a few weeks ago and I had the shepard's pie. It was made with beef, not lamb. The mashed potatoes seemed to be powder based (and virtually unseasoned). Definitely not nothing special, however, I would like to give them another chance for dinner sometime.

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                        jhopp217 Feb 27, 2008 09:33 PM

                        Brazen Fox from all reviews is a kiddie bar posing as a gastro pub. During the early evening they have what looks like a decent menu, yet everyone is trashing it. In the later hours they have rent-a-cops manning the doors, but for what? I know 17 year olds that drink there every weekend.

                      2. re: Wizzapizza
                        jwg Sep 12, 2008 11:39 AM

                        melting pot = g.i. problems the next day

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                        luv2eatct Nov 2, 2007 06:59 AM

                        Peniche in white plains is a tapas bar where trotters used to be. Co-worker enjoyed it. We are going during the week to try.
                        How was blue?

                        1. Wendyd. Mar 8, 2008 11:45 AM

                          It's not new- but , we went to Cafe' Mirage last night- oh, so yummy- I had to bring home an extra carrot/ginger soup for lunch!


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                            Laurie914 Mar 10, 2008 06:33 PM

                            This isn't new exactly, but the North End Restaurant in White Plains (on Broadway, across from the post office) just got a new chef. It's like new-American now. Great food, reasonable prices, and seemed to have a lot of seafood on the menu (for those of you who don't like Legal - I like Legal fine, but the shrimp at the North End were very plump and delicious).

                            1. NYchowcook Aug 28, 2008 03:58 PM

                              Could someone give me a few recommended options for lunch in White Plains.
                              I'm an adventurous hound -- loving all cuisines -- my fellow business travellers, well probably less so, but I can persuade them as long as the place is somewhat comfortable to sit down in.

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                              1. re: NYchowcook
                                Dim Sum Diva Aug 29, 2008 06:37 AM

                                Suggest you use the search function of this board, subject has been covered many, many times.

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                                  NYchowcook Aug 29, 2008 08:09 AM

                                  Yes, searching is generally helpful except here -- there were mentions of restaurants apparently among those familar with them, though posters were not specific as to town or whether open.

                                  I am looking at: Meson Los Espanoles
                                  Sunset Grille
                                  Tango Grill

                                  I would appreciate critique/recommendations for lunch.

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                                    Bloombee Aug 29, 2008 08:27 AM

                                    Sunset Grille has closed (otherwise I would have recommended it). I think of Meson as solid classic Spanish. Have not tried Tango - the reviews here seem mixed (mainly questioning value for the money. I think it is appropriate atmosphere for a business lunch). Two other options I like if you are leaningtoward Spanish or Latin American cuisine in WP:

                                    Peniche - higher end (but not exhorbitant) Spanish/Portuguese tapas. I think this would be good for a business lunch. www.penichetapas.com

                                    Latin American Cafe: pretty casual and less expensive. Good roast pork, Cubano etc. Its across the street from Meson. May be too casual for business.

                                    1. re: Bloombee
                                      KarenNYC Aug 31, 2008 02:42 PM

                                      Sunset Grille CLOSED - say it ain't so!

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                                        dolores Aug 31, 2008 03:40 PM

                                        According to the owner, it ain't. He is reopening in a place to be named.

                                        I hope it is outside downtown WP, but as long as it reopens, that's the key.

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                                          kaaaassss Aug 31, 2008 06:14 PM

                                          i think part of the problem with the last location was that it was not in white plains.....off the beaten track.

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                                            dolores Aug 31, 2008 06:20 PM

                                            Like Francesco's, successful for 50 years? Sam's of Gedney Way?

                                            Off the beaten track for downtown WP residents perhaps, but all the restaurants can't be in downtown WP, thankfully.

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                                              kaaaassss Aug 31, 2008 07:24 PM

                                              this is now not 50 years ago. 50 years ago there were not that many restaurants in the area. gregory's and sergios survived for many years also. boe in the old the old gregory's space is now gone in less then 9 months. unfortuantely people are impatient now and don't give restaurants a chance. there are many good restaurants not in white plains but white plains could use a good mexican restaurant.

                                              1. re: kaaaassss
                                                dolores Sep 1, 2008 02:50 AM

                                                I guess it could. Hopefully it won't be Sunset Grille.

                                                I'll try to find out if the location has been divulged yet.

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                                                  kaaaassss Sep 1, 2008 05:50 AM

                                                  where would you like to see a new sunset grill. white plains needs more diversity with restaurants. three more asian inspired restaurnts will be opening up. 107 Mamaroneck, the old Aculpolco on the corner of post and the new one on main from capelli. add that to blue, asian tempation, seasons and sushi nanese we're on overload.

                                                  1. re: kaaaassss
                                                    dolores Sep 1, 2008 05:59 AM

                                                    Oh, I agree. The tapas places are overpriced, and there are quite enough Asian places. The Italian places aren't exceptional, but I guess there are enough pubs, right?

                                                    Acapulco is gone?

                                                    WP is welcome to Sunset Grille, if that is where the owner finally lands. I will be sad, since I won't get to go there. Unless, of course, he also includes valet parking, which so many of the more intelligent restaurant owners are incorporating into their setup.

                                                    My preference would be the wonderful wide open spaces on Central Avenue, my new favorite place to shop.

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                                                      intrepid Sep 1, 2008 06:06 AM

                                                      hi delores...what are your favorite shops on central ave..chef central? dantes? yaranush? trader joe? korean , chinese, and japanese markets?

                                                      1. re: intrepid
                                                        dolores Sep 1, 2008 06:25 AM

                                                        intrepid, I guess my first go-to is Morton Williams. I now get their flyer online, since they have the best prices on H-D ice cream. Trader Joe is good for the odd stuff.

                                                        Yes, the Japanese places down near Four Corners are good, especially for sake. But the cakes at the faux French bakery are awful.

                                                        Chef Central is cool, especially that they include free wrapping, like stores used to do in the Stone Age.

                                                        I still haven't been to Dante's, sad to say. Nor Yaranush. But there's still time.

                                                        The nice thing about Central Ave. is that there is too much room to institute paid garages in the near future.

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                                                          intrepid Sep 1, 2008 06:56 AM

                                                          mw is ok, doesnt do anything special imho..chef central great goodies, free wrap ok...dantes has good stuff, but owner is a nut job, i stopped going, yaranush has good stuff also, check it out..thanks

                                                          1. re: intrepid
                                                            dolores Sep 1, 2008 07:01 AM

                                                            intrepid, where then do you go for supermarket items just off the beaten path? I don't go to Whole Foods, for obvious reasons, and haven't yet found something comparable to MW.

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                                                              Dim Sum Diva Sep 1, 2008 07:04 AM

                                                              Kass, I don't necessarily agree that it's the people who don't give a restaurant a chance. Serve up some good food at reasonable prices with professional service, and the people will come.

                                                              I think the cost of doing business in this area is prohibitive, beginning and ending with the rent. If you don't own the building, you don't have a chance. Then you have all the market fluctuations due to the bad economy. Remember the big "rice scare" and the "milk scare" when it was all over the news that prices were going to go up due to weather, failed crops, etc.? All of that trickles down.

                                                              I was on Central Ave. the other day and stopped to look at the menu at Villagio Italiano, where I used to order take out a lot. Cavatelli Neopolitana is now $14.95! For macaroni and cheese! That's what they need to charge to pay the rent. And I look at that and say, for that kind of money, I can make it at home for the whole family, and then some.

                                                              I just think it's so much more than "the people".

                                                              1. re: Dim Sum Diva
                                                                dolores Sep 1, 2008 07:10 AM

                                                                Good point, Dim Sum. That's probably why I'm ultra critical of Italian restaurants. If they can't make macaroni and gravy as good as I can AND give me extraordinary service, why should I bother?

                                                                However, since I can't make sushi, I will happily pay what I consider a lot of money for special sushi and even more special service.

                                                                I never could figure out Sunset Grille's lack of patrons. It was as if the people in this county didn't own cars. Heck, if it takes him moving to WP to achieve success, I will happily give up my chance to eat there (unless, S., you institute valet parking!) ever again in order for him to thrive.

                                                                Dim Sum, have you been to Bar Vivace? If yes, how do they compare to Piccolo Mulino?

                                                                1. re: dolores
                                                                  kaaaassss Sep 1, 2008 07:40 AM

                                                                  yes dolores Aculpulco is gone. Haiku (from Bronxville) will be opening there. They are also opening in Mamaroneck and on Long Island...

                                                                  Valet parking is a good idea for restaurants in White Plains. Parking has always been a problem and now more so with the influx of people shopping and eating here. It's a shame that the parking has to be so expensive. It's expensive enough to go out for a nice meal. I have an advantage because I live in White Plains and can walk or take a quick cab ride anywhere. Most restaurants outside of White Plains have free or valet parking.

                                                                  I agree with the statement that the rents are so high that it trickles down to the public and it does make you think twice before eating out.

                                                                  Have you ever eaten at Rustico on Central Avenue?

                                                                  1. re: kaaaassss
                                                                    Dim Sum Diva Sep 1, 2008 10:17 AM

                                                                    Dolores, I feel that way about Italian restaurants too and rarely eat at the high end ones (unless someone else is picking up the tab). If I need a pasta fix, I'll go to Abatino's or Frank's.

                                                                    The last fancy-schmancy one I went to was Hostaria Mezzei on Regent St. in Port Chester. It was good. I've eaten at Rustico, it's nice. I kind of miss Eclisse when it was good and novel, back in the day.

                                                                    Dolores, I am so happy that you did the Sushi Nanese experience. I think we agree that paying more for good sushi is worth it.

                                                                    Kass, as far as I am concerned there can never be enough Asian places in the WP area. Maybe I should rephrase that to say "good Asian places".

                                                                    1. re: Dim Sum Diva
                                                                      kaaaassss Sep 1, 2008 10:52 AM

                                                                      Dim Sum - "Good" is the key word to any cuisine....and that is lacking in many of our restaurants.

                                                                      1. re: kaaaassss
                                                                        dolores Sep 1, 2008 12:22 PM

                                                                        kass, you're right. I can count the number of GOOD good restaurants in Westchester on one hand. And if they ARE good good one week, I may come here and read that they're NOT good good in two or three week's time. It's very disheartening.

                                                                        Yes, I've been to Rustico and enjoyed it very much. My problem, if it is a problem, is that I eat out only once a week and am trying to get to many of the places mentioned here. By the time I get around to the places I've noted as good good, they are sometimes either not or they're gone.

                                                                        Dim Sum, I can't say enough about the entire experience at Sushi Nanase. Everyone who likes sushi should go there. Soon. Before something happens to them.

                                                                        1. re: dolores
                                                                          kaaaassss Sep 1, 2008 12:45 PM

                                                                          I have been to Sushi Nanase and it was such a great experience that it is hard to describe. It's something that everyone has to experience for themselves.

                                                                          1. re: dolores
                                                                            adamclyde Sep 1, 2008 08:05 PM

                                                                            "Good" should be qualified there. There are a LOT of "Very Good" restaurants in Westchester. They just may not be traditional italian or high end places.

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                                                                              dolores Sep 2, 2008 02:40 AM

                                                                              Not in my opinion. What are the VERY good restaurants in Westchester? I may not have been to them.

                                                        2. re: dolores
                                                          momof3 Sep 1, 2008 05:03 PM

                                                          oy with the parking already. I totally disagree with the tapas places being too expensive generality. I really love and have enjoyed Peniche a bunch of times in the last few months. The space is great the service is gracious and the setting is hip without being too cool for school. You can enjoy a few tapas and very reasonably priced selections of wines by the glass. Check out the Spanish cavas ( sparking wines) on the list.

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                                    loon227 Sep 1, 2008 05:29 PM

                                    KarenNYC - if you are willing to go to Fleetwood then I highly suggest BarCar Eatery on Locust St. New restaurant - food is out of this world. Have been there 3 times already. Highly recommend the asparagus & portabello mushroom appetizer, the Rhode Island Skate (fish) entree and panacotta for dessert. OH and let's not forget the Sangria Martini. I know they are still building their website but you can get an idea by going to www.barcareatery.com Their ph# is 914-668-1100. OH - and they have valet parking so you don't have to worry about finding a parking space.

                                    BarCar Eatery
                                    706 Locust St, Mount Vernon, NY 10552

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                                    1. re: loon227
                                      kaaaassss Sep 1, 2008 07:10 PM

                                      anyone have any thoughts on the melting pot. had dinner there twice and both were disappointing experiences. expensive and food not great.

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