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JSHAFT78 Oct 26, 2007 01:25 PM

I only moved to Brooklyn a few weeks ago, and through a friend's suggestion, found the bagel Hole in Park Slope. I thought he bagels were great, but I'm a man who likes to have options. I live down in Bensonhurst, but don't mind a bit of traveling. Any places that have struck anyone's fancy?

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    Tay Oct 26, 2007 03:30 PM

    jshaft78
    They're in Bay Ridge, not Bensonhurst, but I've found Bagel Boy on the corner of 3rd Ave and 80th St and the Bagel store on 86th St and 4th Ave. (I think it's called 5 Star bagels) to have pretty good bagels. Both have a high product turnover, something that really makes a difference when you're dealing with bagels. They both make good muffins and they both have very fresh cream cheese spreads. The store on 86th St has many different varieties. There used to be a really good bagel store on 17th Ave and 65th st, but I don't even know if it's still there.
    I haven't read it but perhaps this old thread will give you more information
    Happy munching! :-}

    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/360202

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      Tay Oct 26, 2007 03:40 PM

      Oops! I forgot to include the Bagel Boy site. Here you go...

      http://www.bagelboyonline.com/index.html

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        mmm...food Oct 26, 2007 04:23 PM

        Try Bagel Factory on 17th and 4th. They have very fresh bagels and very high product turnover. Good selection of cream cheeses and different kinds of bagels. The coffee's only okay. Apart from the bagels, they have some pretty decent sandwiches.

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          rdn Oct 28, 2007 11:01 AM

          Second the Bagel Factory. Ask them what's hot -- they often have bagels straight out of the oven.

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          Sharala Oct 28, 2007 08:17 AM

          I lived across the street from the Sheepshead Bay branch (Ocean Ave/Ave Z) for several years and I miss it terribly! They baked the bagels on racks that produced this special circular scoring that just made them a little bit crispier/chewier. I haven't found bagels like that anywhere else. I wonder if the other branches also have the 'scored' bagels?

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            sam1 Oct 30, 2007 07:36 AM

            yeah, bagel boy on ave z was my family's go to place once bagels r' us closed down across the street from sheepshead bay station (RIP).

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        Olive123 Oct 26, 2007 05:33 PM

        Court Street Bagels in Cobble Hill (181 Court). I think Bergen is the nearest subway stop.

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          HankyT Oct 27, 2007 08:21 AM

          Many posters (myself included) will say pretty good things about Terrace Bagels in Windsor Terrace (PPW, aka 9Ave, between Windsor Pl and 16th St.). They're bigger and softer than Hole bagels, but they have a nice chew (when they're not undercooked, which they sometimes are). They also freeze well, which Hole bagels don't. But Bagel Hole is still the best bagel in the borough by far, IMHO(tep)

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            hatless Oct 29, 2007 11:43 AM

            I've never had a problem freezing Bagel Hole's bagels. I slice them in half all the way through and keep them in plastic bags.

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            curly30 Oct 27, 2007 11:29 AM

            Windsor Terrace bagels are my absolute favorite. May be slightly less authentic, but boy are they good.

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              yuriwebboy Oct 27, 2007 08:46 PM

              ditto terrace bagels - they're the ones the coop (PSFC) sells. pumperknickel are my fave.

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              pels Oct 28, 2007 08:41 PM

              Bagels on Kings Highway between East 16th and 17th Street, right by McDonalds. Better than Bagel Hole.

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                josh L Oct 29, 2007 11:14 AM

                the bagel hole is the best bagel in new york city. the runner up, many notches below bagel hole in the park slope is terrace bagels.

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                  fishermb Oct 30, 2007 07:14 AM

                  Where's the love for Hot Bagels in Brooklyn Heights? (Montague between Henry/Hicks). I think the best hand-rolled bagels, consistently ranked up there in magazines and such. Great selection of spreads as well (whitefish salad, shrimp salad, etc.)

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                    Fleur Nov 1, 2007 12:05 AM

                    In a neighborhood where everything closes up by 9:30 or 10 pm, the Bagel Store on Montague Street is open 24/7.

                    I think they are by far the best bagels around. They are always fresh baked, and are not sweetened, like most other round things that pass for bagels these days.

                    They also make my favorite, the Flagel, the flat bagel that is almost all crust, and little fluff. They will split and toast for you as well.

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                  Chris E Nov 7, 2007 07:35 AM

                  I agree that Bagel Hole is number one, but for another good old-school bagel you might try Bruce's Bagels on Flatbush Ave. in Marine Park. Not sure of the cross streets. It's not as good, but if you're over that way, try Bionic Bagels in Sheepshead Bay (Nostrand and Avenue Y).

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                    Allyson1021 Nov 7, 2007 10:59 AM

                    Bergen Bagels of course!! FYI..This is coming from a Jewish girl who grew up on bagels and cream cheese.

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                      allydee Nov 7, 2007 03:04 PM

                      i agree with the bagel hole kudos, also having grown up on bagels bought on brighton beach avenue and coney island avenue and ave u in the 1970's. has anyone tried the bagel shop in bensonhurst on new utrecht around 16th ave on a corner? i see it on my way home from work from that area to downtown and have gotten curious. there's also a shop on 18th ave and 62nd in the 'hoist that looks interesting.

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                        KRS Nov 8, 2007 12:27 PM

                        Bagels without real texture are not bagels at all. Most New York places make BSOs (Bagel Shaped Objects) -- gigantic, cottony and sweet as cake. H&H is the most horrible example. To know where I'm coming from, I grew up on the real stuff, and for me the only proper amount of sugar in a bagel is ZERO. The bad places will lie to you and say sugar is necessary to make a bagel rise, but that's only if you want Wonder Bread.

                        I like Bagel Hole on 7th Avenue. I buy some fresh ones and then load up on the cheap bags of yesterday's product, which I freeze and then microwave.

                        Almost as good is Kosher Bagel Hole on Coney Island Avenue near Avenue K.

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                          ajs42548 Jul 8, 2008 08:02 AM

                          KRS .. You are the man. Everything you said about bad bagels, I have been saying for years. Your BSO description of bagels is right on. That's all we have here in Manhattan. I also agree with your assessment of H&H bagels.Way too sweet. And like you, I grew up on the real thing. It's been a couple of years but the bagel store on Cropsey Ave just north of the Belt Parkway had decent(maybe not the best, but ok) bagels, I thought, at least as my memory serves me.

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                            Geo8rge Jul 8, 2008 09:54 AM

                            Aren't bagels boiled in sugar, or even carmelized, water? That may be the reason some are sweeter than others.

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                              Woodside Al Jul 8, 2008 10:12 AM

                              That's a Montreal bagel. A NY bagel should be boiled in plain water. Although I believe H&H puts some sugar in the pot, and others have followed suit, which is one reason why they're all so sweet nowdays. A NY bagel should be made with no sugar at all, just malt, and no eggs in the dough, just water.

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                                Geo8rge Jul 9, 2008 09:33 AM

                                You might look over the recipes on google. What goes in the boiled water ranges from carmelized sugar, a potato, lye, malt, whatever else. I cannot see how the brown glazed crust, not seen on bialys, can happen without some sugar. BTW, isn't malt mostly maltose, a sugar? I have no first hand knowledge of bagel making, like most people I get all my info from google and publications owned by Rupert Murdock.

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                            markgrobman Jul 5, 2008 03:48 PM

                            Absolutely hands down best bagels - Cropsy Avenue by Belt Parkway exit. The best.

                            1. Sam Fujisaka Jul 5, 2008 04:30 PM

                              I went out to the deli, it’s not that far
                              But there in the case, straight ahead
                              The bagels were gone, not even a one
                              My head swerved to the right, then to the left
                              But I couldn’t see what I’d come to find
                              I’ll never forget the sinking feeling that night
                              My craving was real and now it’s worse
                              Oh, where oh where has my bagel gone?
                              Where oh where has my onion bagel gone?
                              Greedy customers came and took them away
                              And left me here all alone

                              1. brendankelleher Jul 6, 2008 02:42 PM

                                Bagel World on 5th Ave and 4th St. gets my vote, but convenience is part of that (just blocks from my apartment). Great bagels to rival the great David's in Manhattan, with whom I still carry on a love affair. They're big and crusty, great mix of seeds etc. on the everything, and with that wonderful doughy center. Now if only Bagel World could get my order straight...

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                                  ChowDiva Jul 7, 2008 07:40 AM

                                  There is a new bagel place on 4th Avenue and Union Street that has really good bagels. Great texture, not overly doughy...very good. I think it's called Brownstone Bagels, but I'm not positive.

                                  1. subinai Jul 7, 2008 09:17 AM

                                    i really like bagel factory on 5th ave and 17th st.(?). super biased because it was really convenient to my apt at the time. i live in south williamsburg now and i don't have a close bagel joint anymore :(

                                    1. amyamylynn Jul 8, 2008 01:36 PM

                                      I know that this question was posed a while back, but since then a newer place has opened in Bay Ridge, which is where I live. "Brooklyn Bagels Cafe" is on the corner of 5th Ave and 87th St. I like them a lot, and I used to live right next to the Bagel Hole in Park Slope. These are better. They're enormous bagels, really huge. The service was awful when they first opened, but they're getting their act together. Sandwiches and deli meats from there are good too.

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                                        Bzdhkap Jul 9, 2008 06:38 AM

                                        Does anyone know if the Bagel Hole in Park Slope is a branch of the Bagel Holes on Coney Island Ave. bet J and K; and on Ave. J and East 15th Street? Those are kosher.

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                                          geezoh Jul 13, 2008 06:14 PM

                                          What about Henry's on Union & Henry- perfect texture!

                                        2. MB fka MB Jul 15, 2008 06:33 PM

                                          I love the Windsor terrace bagels. WOW. and they have flat bagels so I can have my fix with a few less calories.

                                          bergen bagels is closest to me (flatbush and bergen) and they are only okay in a crunch usually, but last weekend I got an everything bagel and it was vastly improved, dare I say delish. even my roommate was shocked at how good it was, almost back to the glory days....

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                                            gardenfood Oct 12, 2008 01:57 PM

                                            Cobble Hill/Dumbo - Le Bagel Delight - Excellent

                                            Bay Ridge - H&L on 3rd Ave and 88 or 89th Street. - Excellent

                                            We've tried other places in each nabe and frankly, its all just rolled bread. These palces are the real deal.

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                                              Greg777 Apr 29, 2009 03:06 AM

                                              WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE? Its as if none of you ever at a decent bagel. BAGEL BOY IS WAAACK!!!! Puffy, crappy steam baked. That kings highway spot is good, if you never had a bagel. Essa, Tal, Blah Blah GARBAGE! That Bagel Barn on 65th is just plain silly. THE BAGEL HOLE is a Hole. The Best for now, in the past, and will be until they go out of business will always be BIONIC BAGEL! Nostrand avenue and like avenue V. Small, cripsy, perfect. Get your stories straight and try a real bagel for once! Their bagel sticks are great too. Don't know what that is? And you call yourself a bagel person.

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                                                kernel Apr 29, 2009 10:39 PM

                                                They are up to 95 cents per bagel! The old Bagel Boy location on Ocean Avenue off the corner of Avenue Z is now the site of a new bagel store-good bagels, nice people

                                              2. bigmackdaddy Apr 30, 2009 05:13 AM

                                                Having been a fan of Terrace Bagels and Bagel Hole, both in the Slope, I have found Kosher Bagel Hole on Coney Island Avenue by Ave K to have the best ones in Brooklyn if not the City. Before that, if any of you are culinary history buffs, Bagels By Max on 52 7th Avenue in Park Slope was undisputed king.

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                                                  mike in brooklyn Apr 30, 2009 05:41 AM

                                                  lifelong brooklyn native (67 years) - lived in Bay Ridge - never liked those
                                                  huge puffy bagles at Bagle Boy - Bagle Hole makes authentic old style
                                                  bagles - there is also a Bagle store on Coney Island Ave between T & U
                                                  which makes authentic bagles - they have been there for 50 years or more.
                                                  Leonard Lopate (WNYC) highly praises Bagle Hole on 7th.

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                                                    Jack_ May 3, 2009 07:40 AM

                                                    Bagel Hole and Kosher Bagel Hole for boiled, chewy bagels

                                                    Terrace Bagel for puffy bagels

                                                    When I lived in Yorkville I used to get my morning bagel from the guy with the pushcart on 86th and 3rd, wonderful dense chewy bagels. I think he got them in Jersey, go figure

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