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Hidden gems around Guy/Concordia

emerilcantcook Oct 25, 2007 09:47 AM

I work in that neighborhood and am (believe or not) is getting a little bit bored with some of the usual suspects like Boustan and Bangkok. Does anyone have other lunch favorites, holes in the walls, and raunchy looking but tasty spots for lunch? I am open to any couisine, and I can walk perhaps up to one metro station each ways (Peel to Atwater). Thanks a lot!

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  1. mainsqueeze RE: emerilcantcook Oct 25, 2007 10:22 AM

    I spend most of my time around there too and these are my typical choices:

    Avesta for Turkish food on Ste-Catherine West.
    Sushi Kanto in the Faubourg.
    Cocktail Hawaii on Maisonneuve.
    Manna for Korean on Bishop.
    McKibbins for a big fat burger.
    Bistro Nicolosi on Crescent Street for salads (though it's not cheap!)
    Bardecco on Lincoln for pizza and subs.
    Chop Crazy for salads (under Simons)
    Aqualunch for Fish (also under Simons)
    Basha for Lebanese (also under Simons)

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      mainsqueeze RE: mainsqueeze Oct 25, 2007 10:25 AM

      Oh, and I think Saffron on Ste. Catherine (corner St. Mathieu) is pretty good for Iranian, but the service is abysmal.

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        celfie RE: mainsqueeze Oct 25, 2007 10:31 AM

        the new korean place in the faubourg is very good

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          SnackHappy RE: celfie Oct 25, 2007 10:41 AM

          Actually, I found Kim-Chi quite bland and not that authentic. It's watered down Korean food on par with all the other chains run by MTY Group.

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            mainsqueeze RE: celfie Oct 25, 2007 10:43 AM

            I prefer Manna or Maison Bulgogi for Korean.

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              moh RE: mainsqueeze Oct 26, 2007 06:42 AM

              My vote is for Maison Bulgogi. Even my Korean mother approves of the place, and she is very picky about her Korean food. Great bulgogi, great pa jon (Seafood pancake/crepe/pizza with green onions), great soups. And the kimchi is good there, better than other places I have tried in Montreal. Good kimchi is key!

          2. re: mainsqueeze
            amelie1980 RE: mainsqueeze Oct 21, 2008 07:37 AM

            I had dinner at Saffron once, but my impression was that the quality/price ratio was too low. But the point is, I think it's been closed for awhile now...

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            Fritzy RE: mainsqueeze Oct 25, 2007 11:19 AM

            Anything else can you add about Bistro Nicolosi?

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              mainsqueeze RE: Fritzy Oct 25, 2007 01:29 PM

              They have these lunch specials - I think you can have a sandwich, salad, and dessert combo for something like $12.50. I've ordered the salad lunch combination meal ($11.50 or so, includes a dessert) a couple of times. They usually have a selection of about five salads and you can pick three. I've been pretty pleased with them for the most part. They also sell pastries that are made on the premises and cookies by weight. Their coffee is decent. The only thing I have disliked there are the macarons, which were stale.

              It's right near the Musée des Beaux Arts, and I think they get a lot of their clientele from that. It's the type of place my grandma would probably love to go to post-museum visit.

              p.s. there's no table service - you order at the counter.

            2. re: mainsqueeze
              cherylmtl RE: mainsqueeze Oct 25, 2007 11:32 AM

              There's Pret a Manger that just reopened on Ste Catherine for Chinese, and that great little hole-in-the-wall dumpling place whose name I can never remember just above de Maisonneuve on St. Marc. MB for sandwiches on (I think) Stanley, and Vasco da Gama on Peel. Java U as well. Mister Steer on Ste Catherine. The food place in Ogilvy's basement. Cafe Holt. Not all necessarily holes in the wall, but definite lunch alternatives....

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                emerilcantcook RE: cherylmtl Oct 27, 2007 09:21 PM

                Can you suggest some dishes from Pret a Manger? I recently got a pork dish (from the red menu), but I wasn't impressed. I don't know much about Chinese food, and since everybody raves about the place I want to give them another chance assuming that I mis-ordered.

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                  chilipepper RE: emerilcantcook Oct 28, 2007 03:19 PM

                  Try the spicy japanese tofu rounds with ground pork bits and diced peppers and onions - it's on the red menu though I forget the name
                  Plus the steamed japanese tofu rounds with mushrooms (same menu)
                  Any of the hotpots
                  Which pork did you have? If you like sweet-ish things, there's a pork chop dish with sweet-and-sour like sauce with onions (though not the gloopy sticky red stuff used in sweet and sour chicken balls and the like) in the regular menu (forget the name, too, sorry for not being more helpful)
                  Beef with black bean over flat broad rice noodles
                  Hu ysiang eggplant
                  If you like spicy, ask for extra spicy because otherwise it'll be pretty mild

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                    emerilcantcook RE: chilipepper Oct 29, 2007 05:40 PM

                    Thank you for the suggestions. I don't remember the name of the pork dish. I didn't completely dislike it, but as you can see it wasn't very memorable ":)

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                      emerilcantcook RE: chilipepper Nov 13, 2007 01:41 PM

                      I tried the steamed japanese tofu with eggplant and pork, and it was tasty and very soothing.

                2. re: mainsqueeze
                  MickFlanagen RE: mainsqueeze Oct 26, 2007 06:16 AM

                  Where is McKibbins?

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                    mainsqueeze RE: MickFlanagen Oct 26, 2007 06:36 AM

                    1426 Bishop

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                      afoodyear RE: MickFlanagen Aug 19, 2008 09:31 AM

                      Just throwing in my two cents... I definitely recommend McKibbins. Any pub that lets you choose how you like your burger because they grind the meat on the premises is OK with me.

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                        afoodfriend RE: afoodyear Apr 11, 2010 10:37 AM

                        I don't know who told you that Mckibbins ground their meat on site but you were misinformed. In fact the food practices there are abysmal. I was working there serving after working as a chef for my last job, and honestly I wouldn't even eat there with the free meals. Also the practice of serving rare hamburgers is not a legal practice in Quebec, Their fish and chips and chicken strips taste like leather because they are all pre-fried at the beginning of the week in a giant batch then fried again to order. Disgusting. Over priced beer. Don't go.

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                          afoodyear RE: afoodfriend Apr 11, 2010 06:23 PM

                          Interesting. Less than well done burgers are fairly common for an illegal practice :o Always good to have a scoop from someone working in the kitchen.

                          Their beer prices are more or less in line with anyone else's IMO though.

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                            celfie RE: afoodyear Apr 11, 2010 07:05 PM

                            during 5 a 7 they are

                    2. re: mainsqueeze
                      kpzoo RE: mainsqueeze Aug 17, 2008 09:19 AM

                      I finally got to Cocktail Hawaii this weekend - so a very belated thanks for the recco. Walking in, I was a bit overwhelmed at the visual "menu wall" - a huge panel with dozens of squares, each with a picture of a dish. We told the fellow at the cash that it was our first time there, and he enthusiastically (and very helpfully) pointed out where the "breakfast combo" section was on the wall, then the sweet crepes, the savoury crepes, the waffles, and the fruit cocktails.

                      I had the "Rosa" crepe with fresh strawberries & achta cream, drizzled with strawberry coulis. Delicious. Not too rich and just the right amount. I also had a "lemonade" with it - which turned out to be something like a fresh-lemon slush, flavoured with a bit of orange-blossom water if I'm not mistaken. I watched it being made-to-order with fresh lemons. It was nice, but the taste was a bit odd - probably due to the orange-blossom water, which I like but am not used to in a drink. I think I'll try the strawberry "juice/slush" next time. My hubby had the "Costa Rica" breakfast combo platter - scrambled eggs, toast, bacon, sausages, a small crepe, strawberries & mango, and a coffee. A bit of everything - and he was a happy camper.

                      Great value, friendly service, and I'll go back for sure. I definitely want to try one of those incredible-looking fruit cocktails next time... looks like a meal in itself!

                      1. re: kpzoo
                        mainsqueeze RE: kpzoo Aug 19, 2008 09:29 AM

                        Those cocktails are really filling. I forget what it's called, but I like the one with strawberries, mango, avocado juice, and this pink concoction they call "fruit punch". It's topped with achta, honey, and nuts.

                    3. mainsqueeze RE: emerilcantcook Oct 25, 2007 01:30 PM

                      There's also that strange café/hair salon place on crescent, north of Maisonneuve. It's called Benelo. They have pretty good lunches. The quiches are alright. I think the guy makes all the desserts, too. My only complaint about that place is that the coffee they served me tasted like burnt. I'd give them another shot, though.

                      1. cherylmtl RE: emerilcantcook Oct 25, 2007 01:32 PM

                        More suggestions - Nocochi, which is right near Concordia, and Premiere Moisson on Sherbrooke near Guy.

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                          mainsqueeze RE: cherylmtl Oct 25, 2007 01:34 PM

                          I love love love the cookies at Nocochi but I find the food pretty blah.

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                            cherylmtl RE: mainsqueeze Oct 25, 2007 01:41 PM

                            I find their salads pretty decent. But the cookies alone are reason enough to go there...

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                              emerilcantcook RE: cherylmtl Oct 25, 2007 01:54 PM

                              Yes, I am a big fan of their cookies as well. It is my 4:00 carb rush on those days I have to work until late. Kind of a self-bribe.

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                              SnackHappy RE: mainsqueeze Oct 25, 2007 01:57 PM

                              Yeah, the food at Nocochi is pretty meh and the servers are a bit clueless.

                              Those cookies are awesome, though.

                          2. eoj RE: emerilcantcook Oct 25, 2007 05:08 PM

                            I love Santangelo's roast veal and porcetta sandwiches.
                            The bistro at the Musee des Beaux Arts is also very nice, though somewhat pricey for an everyday lunch.

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                              emerilcantcook RE: eoj Oct 25, 2007 07:31 PM

                              Yes, Santangelo's is very good; but I wish they could do something with their bread. Then I could eat there every other day.

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                                Ghostquatre RE: emerilcantcook Aug 17, 2008 05:57 PM

                                I understand how you feel. It feels like their ciabatta bread is something that came out of my mom's bread machine. Not horrible but not very authentic.

                                Anna's groceries on de Maisonneuve near Fort, under an apt. tower has some pretty decent value baguette sandwich, however it is sometimes a little inconsistent. I haven't been there during the whole summer though. Their baguettes are around 10~11inch long, the other ingredients which are not coldcuts are tomato, cucumber, some white sauce probably mayo and what seems to be swiss cheese. Doesn't have that tangy flavour you would get at santangelo, but the simplicity is quite enjoyable (when the bread isn't a little bland), and it is a little cheaper. They also have caviar and russian pastries. On the sign outside, it says they also have crepes, soups, hotdogs, fries and poutine. I'm not sure if they still have all those items because the first time I entered the place last winter, I was looking for poutine, but the guy said they don't make poutine anymore.

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                                  mainsqueeze RE: emerilcantcook Aug 19, 2008 09:32 AM

                                  I agree about the bread at Santangelo. I prefer the "kaiser roll" (not a real kaiser) than the "ciabatta" (not real ciabatta AFAIC).

                                  By the way, Santangelo is moving as of September. They're going to be on Lincoln just west of Guy. I don't remember their new address but the guy told me there's a black awning.

                              2. Vincci RE: emerilcantcook Oct 25, 2007 07:10 PM

                                I would recommend Damao for their sushi; service is slow for their "hot dishes", but I went once recently and I think they're improving in that area.

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                                  mainsqueeze RE: Vincci Oct 26, 2007 06:38 AM

                                  Really? I thought the sushi was preeeeetttty mediocre. Kanto is five times better, easy. The only problem with Kanto is that the man who makes the sushi takes forever.

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                                    celfie RE: mainsqueeze Oct 26, 2007 06:59 AM

                                    i agree. their sushi is pretty mediocre and expensive at Damao - their other dishes though always look so nice.

                                    has anyone been to that new japanese place tucked away beside the creepy 24h internet cafe on st catherine between st marc and st mathew. it looks really good - perhaps ill go this weekend.

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                                      Vincci RE: celfie Oct 29, 2007 08:01 PM

                                      Ack! Sorry for suggesting a dud, I haven't been to many sushi places in Montreal, and being from western Canada (No other Canadian city can touch Vancouver sushi, I think), I've really lowered my standards when it comes to Montreal sushi.

                                      I live in the area so I'll definitely look into trying both Kanto and "the place beside the creepy place". Thanks!

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                                      Vincci RE: mainsqueeze Nov 4, 2007 03:08 PM

                                      I walked by Kanto the other day and while I didn't order anything, the menu looked like it was just rolls and salmon nigiri. Am I missing something here?

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                                        mainsqueeze RE: Vincci Nov 5, 2007 06:47 AM

                                        It is a very limitted menu. He doesn't use that many ingredients. But what he does make is quite delicious. You might want to ask him if you're looking for something in particular that you don't see on the menu board.

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                                          immaterialgirl RE: mainsqueeze Jan 28, 2008 07:56 AM

                                          Plus at Kanto Sushi it's all made fresh to order, the prices are really decent and they give you a nice little salad with each order.
                                          It's great - I go there pretty much once a week! Highly recommended and worth the wait!

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                                            mainsqueeze RE: mainsqueeze Aug 19, 2008 09:33 AM

                                            I discovered he has a paper menu with more options under the counter. You just have to ask to see it. I'm not sure why he hides it!

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                                              blond_america RE: mainsqueeze Oct 20, 2008 02:06 PM

                                              I guess i should mention that they now have a new improved paper menu (this one is laminated) and sometimes they ask you if you want to see it. Maybe they were ashamed of the old one because it was all wrinkly.

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                                      chilipepper RE: emerilcantcook Oct 28, 2007 03:40 PM

                                      Rotisserie Italienne on Ste Catherine near Fort
                                      Pho Nguyen on St Mathieu below de Maisonneuve
                                      Mango Bay on Bishop
                                      Clafouti on Drummond below Sherbrooke

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                                        SnackHappy RE: chilipepper Nov 5, 2007 08:23 AM

                                        We hit Mango Bay for lunch, a few months back. The place was completely empty. The jerk chiken was bland. The salad was laughable. The price was a bit high. I wouldn't reccommend it.

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                                          causeimhungry RE: chilipepper Apr 15, 2010 11:13 AM

                                          I second Clafouti on Drummond. Soup and sandwiches made to order. Homemade chow mein and sushi. Cheese and fruit plates. All at incredible prices. Cash only. Open banker's hours.

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                                          jessmil RE: emerilcantcook Aug 23, 2008 08:58 PM

                                          Star of India isn't bad and is very cheap.

                                          There's also an interesting place at Guy x Notre-Dame called Thamar. It's a date-shop (weird, I know) but she makes fabulous sandwiches! And the "dattes sucre-sale" are delicious.

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                                            afoodfriend RE: jessmil Apr 11, 2010 10:44 AM

                                            Star of India on st. Cats? It was awful, the butter chicken was so sweet it was like a desert, the goat was tough, the only redeeming feature of the combo for two was the 1 naan bread they gave us to split...not enough. Don't go.

                                            Star of India
                                            5860 Rue Sherbrooke W, Montreal, QC H4A1X5, CA

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                                              wilbroni RE: afoodfriend Apr 17, 2010 07:41 AM

                                              Strange, I've always liked Star of India. But I've never ordered the Butter Chicken or the Goat. The Dansak is great.

                                              Star of India
                                              5860 Rue Sherbrooke W, Montreal, QC H4A1X5, CA

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                                            hungryjackhungry RE: emerilcantcook Oct 29, 2008 08:05 PM

                                            There are two new spots on Bishop between de Maisonneuve and Sherbrooke that have a lot of potential.

                                            Grillades Bizou--moderate to low priced japanese brochette place with a pleasant interior despite the flatscreen tv. you can order a wide variety of skewers from the grill and assorted sides, or get a combo. I had: julienned salad (celery root w/ mildly spicy dressing), rice w/ nori, scallion crepes, and grilled squid. All were very good. The staff seemed to take great care at every step.

                                            just above it:

                                            Tomodachi Sushi--looks good, it's been recommended by friends, but I haven't tried it. Reasonably priced family operation. Anyone been there?

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                                              SnackHappy RE: hungryjackhungry Oct 29, 2008 10:25 PM

                                              Is that Bizou place a proper yakitori-ya i.e. very informal and lots of beer drinking? I could really go for something like that.

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                                                hungryjackhungry RE: SnackHappy Nov 9, 2008 08:08 PM

                                                I've never been to a yakitori-ya, but yes, it is very informal and beer is available. It seemed like it could be a fun place for a group--drinking beer, sharing sides, ordering fresh skewers as needed.

                                                Sorry to hear about tomodachi--i think i'll still give it a try though.

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                                                mainsqueeze RE: hungryjackhungry Oct 30, 2008 06:32 AM

                                                I tried tomodachi and I was left very unimpressed with their lackluster sushi. It was pretty poorly rolled and the quality of the fish wasn't very good.

                                                I'm interested in the new Sushi Yumi on de Maisonneuve just west of Guy, where Zyng used to be (for about five minutes!). Anyone tried that one yet?

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                                                  celfie RE: mainsqueeze Nov 30, 2008 04:30 PM

                                                  checked out yumi tonight. fusion rolls but the rice was perfectly prepared. the roles were light and simple but fresh and flavourful - a bit on the small side though. I would definitely go back frequently. Very reasonably priced too - 5.95 or so per roll and they have various specials which i didnt exactly look at

                                              3. sksoze RE: emerilcantcook Dec 2, 2008 12:31 PM

                                                There is a small Polish place on St. Marc.

                                                I can't recall the name at the moment--does anyone know?--but if you get to St. Marc's it's not hard to find.

                                                It doesn’t look like a place that makes sandwiches at first, but if you run inside and exclaim that you'd like a delicious Polish sandwich just like she would make for herself, she will gladly oblige.

                                                I don’t remember exactly what was on mine, but I asked for spicy and it was at best, mild. That was my only reservation after all was said and done. I have a feeling she kept it mild due to my baby face and my generally unassuming look. She probably thought she was protecting me and saving me from my own sandwich, in a motherly kind of way. And really, I can’t be mad at that. I just know next time to stress the spice.

                                                The sandwich came on a fresh hard roll, was 4.50, and was absolutely what I was looking for. A real deal sandwich you’d expect your Polish aunt to make you if she had her own deli at the ready.

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                                                  emerilcantcook RE: sksoze Dec 2, 2008 03:17 PM

                                                  Could it be Wawel Patisserie? I've been eyeing on their coldcuts for quite a while.

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                                                    sksoze RE: emerilcantcook Dec 3, 2008 09:31 AM

                                                    I took a small detour down St. Marc to check for you today.

                                                    It is indeed Wawel.

                                                    I don't know too much about the place. It seems the same woman is always there single-handedly running the place. She's always as friendly as her Polish bacon is good, so the few times I've been there, it's been a pleasure.

                                                    If you do decide to stop in and check it out, see what info you can't dig up and share with us. I'd be interested to know more about the food she carries.

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                                                      blond_america RE: sksoze Dec 3, 2008 12:46 PM


                                                      There's actually quite a few Wawel stores in Montreal. I think the biggest one is beside Frontenac metro.

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                                                        afoodyear RE: sksoze Sep 10, 2009 06:30 AM

                                                        Wawel makes an excellent donut and some decent pastries as well :D

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                                                          devilishlyj RE: afoodyear Sep 10, 2009 08:18 AM

                                                          Those plum donuts are heavenly...

                                                    2. re: sksoze
                                                      blond_america RE: sksoze Dec 3, 2008 08:38 AM

                                                      Polish food Isn't really known for it's spicyness. In fact I can't think of a dish my family makes that is spicy at all. I guess some of the mustards can sting but that's due to horse radish as opposed to capsicum.

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                                                        sksoze RE: blond_america Dec 3, 2008 09:20 AM

                                                        You make a good point and I am sure that had something to do with it.

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                                                      celfie RE: emerilcantcook Apr 17, 2010 08:56 AM

                                                      There's yet another arab shop in the hood, right next to the Mr Sub on St catherine at Bishop. Unlike other arab markets, this one is pristine and super clean! They also have a charcoal grill and make all the usual grilled meats . Anyways, it's good for a quick bite. I have only tried their shish taouk and it was plump and juicy but not very flavourful. They also do a whole grilled chicken for 11.99 - i'll be getting that some night soon.

                                                      Mr Sub
                                                      1455 Rue Sainte-Catherine W, Montreal, QC H3G1S6, CA

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                                                        Evilbanana11 RE: celfie Apr 17, 2010 01:44 PM

                                                        Tried their chicken mergaise pita wrap and it was pretty good.

                                                      2. BlueSteak RE: emerilcantcook Jun 28, 2010 10:00 AM

                                                        Le Gourmet Burger is ridiculously good

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                                                          jay_81k RE: BlueSteak Jun 28, 2010 10:56 AM

                                                          You find?? I was very disappointed and found it to be a rip off.

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                                                            BlueSteak RE: jay_81k Jun 28, 2010 11:34 AM

                                                            8 bucks and change for a beef burger with; guacamole, hot peppers, extra cheese, bacon and I can’t remember the rest...Pretty good price for me. And how many places can you call 10 minutes in advance and pick up a good fresh quality burger?

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                                                              yozyoz RE: BlueSteak Jun 29, 2010 10:54 AM

                                                              I agree with jay, my experience at Le Gourmet Burger wasn't really good
                                                              while they do have a lot of toppings and sauces, I thought their burgers were really dry (both my girlfriend's and mine)

                                                              however, I will admit that their fries are very good (pretty much the only reason I'd go back again)

                                                        2. wokhei RE: emerilcantcook Jul 2, 2010 01:39 PM

                                                          Golden Stone on St Mathieu right by the fire station is a sure bet. Leek and egg dumpling, chinese salad and hot and sour potato slice. Amazingly consistent, if you stick to their classics.

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                                                            mainsqueeze RE: wokhei Jul 6, 2010 06:28 AM

                                                            I agree. I love their local style tofu (shredded tofu salad) and their dumplings and skewers. On a cold day their flour gnocci soup really hits the spot as well.

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                                                            grobi RE: emerilcantcook Jul 13, 2010 04:30 PM

                                                            Thali on St Marc is (somewhat) new and has great, inexpensive Indian food

                                                            On St Mathieu next to Guy metro there is also a little place called Maison du Nord-- I've had great dumplings and pulled noodle dishes. Also, I have yet to try but I've heard that there pork sandwhich is excellent.

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