453472 Tue Oct 23 16:57:24 -0700 2007 8 1 San Francisco Bay Area 0 3060975 I dont know if you want or should eat here but I can comment on two styles of beers I have sampled here. I finally stopped this past time in ordering my ususal "Little White Lie" the white belgian style beer - I liken to champagne. Its incredibly refreshing [quite so this past summer[] and light. It seems almost too 'foo-foo' now that I have sampled their so called "Biere de Sonoma," Perdition - another Belgian style. It is a medium dark beer, quite smooth, with a slight hoppiness. I think I prefer this now with the weather change. Does anyone have any other reccomendations? Tue Oct 23 16:57:24 -0700 2007 14086 kare_raisu 1 3060999 I really like the Damnation and Salvation. I want to try the Pliny the Elder Tue Oct 23 17:05:17 -0700 2007 3060975 14573 Scott M 2 3061005 I think I recall Pliny as having the highest alchol content. Food & Wine recently did a article on Sonoma Co. breweries with this place being featured. Tue Oct 23 17:06:44 -0700 2007 3060999 14086 kare_raisu 3 3065650 The Temptation is one of the best beers I have ever had. It might be a bit much if you are just getting into beer as the wild yeast is a bit strong and slightly sour. It is aged in chardonnay casks and is also somewhat oaky. Pliny the Elder is a great double IPA, one i desperately miss on the east coast. Pliny the Younger is stronger and different but not neccessarily better. Thu Oct 25 06:26:47 -0700 2007 3061005 12484 MVNYC 4 3067217 Thanks for the recs MVNYC! -- and glad to see you still here! Thu Oct 25 13:02:19 -0700 2007 3065650 14086 kare_raisu 1 3066788 Here's my old post on the pizza, http://www.chowhound.com/topics/37378 We should plan a happy hour there sometime for the North Bay 'hounds. Thu Oct 25 11:22:04 -0700 2007 3060975 10039 Melanie Wong 2 3067225 Thanks for the link Melanie...sounds like an excellent plan... Thu Oct 25 13:03:45 -0700 2007 3066788 14086 kare_raisu 1 3068797 My personal favorites on the beer list are the Damnation and the Blind Pig (a hoppy IPA which is lower alcohol than the somewhat similar Pliny). Vinnie is constantly experimenting with the Belgian-style sour ales, which are not to my personal taste, but are widely recognized as stellar. You can usually find a few of them on the list at Toronado in the Lower Haight, if Santa Rosa is too far to go to try a beer. :-) Fri Oct 26 04:39:42 -0700 2007 3060975 20187 Alderete 2 3570421 A clarification on my original post: While the Blind Pig is lower in alcohol content than Pliny the Elder, it is by no means a low alcohol beer. I have always wondered if the name came from the way you feel after a few of them. It's "efficient" as well as delicious, and after many, many pints remains one of my favorite beers in the world. I don't think you can get it outside of a bar, but it's almost always available at the Toronado. Mon Apr 07 12:48:18 -0700 2008 3068797 20187 Alderete