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Seriously Folks, Any Good Pizza?

hhshames Oct 20, 2007 07:49 AM

I am very particular about my pizza. I like think crust NY Pizza with a good sauce and cheese that doesn't have negative taste. I have tried a few places and I can think of 2 that are even worth my time, Pastazios and I fratelli's. Pastazios makes a good white pizza, though the crust could be a bit less doughy. I Fratelli's has a nice thin crust, but should work on the quality of the toppings. Anyone know of a place that has the whole package?

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    Tay RE: hhshames Oct 20, 2007 08:27 AM

    Uhhh... Texas is a BIG state. In what city are you located?
    Also, I'm curious about what you mean when you refer to, "negative taste"?

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      hhshames RE: Tay Oct 20, 2007 09:23 AM

      Correct, 2nd largest in the country. I'm in Dallas. Thanks, I had a brain fart.

    2. jinet12 RE: hhshames Oct 20, 2007 09:28 AM

      Well there are two places that people seem to like that are here...Coal Vines and Fireside Pies...Now, IMO, there is no substitute here for the pizza in NY, nor do I foresee that happening...Kinda like looking for great Tex-Mex in NY...

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        hhshames RE: jinet12 Oct 20, 2007 12:37 PM

        Are they thin crust or deep dish? Have you been to both and if so do you have a preference?

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          jinet12 RE: hhshames Oct 20, 2007 05:39 PM

          Have had both...Fireside Pies, has a medium crust..not thin, not thick...very good, I think, as well as excellent toppings...meatballs being my favorite there....Coal Vines, much thinner crust..Have not actually been to this restaurant, but someone brought a couple of pies to a party...Thought it was delicious as well, but quite different from Fireside Pies...Again, NOTHING taste like NY pizza but the real deal, but these two places are good.....You'll have to try them both out...

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        niblick05 RE: hhshames Oct 20, 2007 10:02 PM

        Um, I know Carmine's on Spring Valley and Montfort has a loyal following. I've never had NY pizza to compare this pizza too, but i love their thin crust.

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          missylee RE: hhshames Oct 21, 2007 03:52 PM

          Coal vines is good but not neccesarily NY style, I like their Pizza Bolognese. I really I think the best NY style pizza is at Joe's Pizza in Carrollton...no atmosphere but the pizza is worth the drive. Also Campinia by West Village is good but just 2nd place compared to Joe's IMO.

          1. ginger7949 RE: hhshames Oct 22, 2007 06:23 AM

            I'm from Connecticut, so I'm naturally a pizza snob. The only thing remotely edible I've had in the DFW area was Goodfella's in Carrollton, and Brooklyn's in Allen. Pazzo in Plano/Dallas line is ok - personal siza pizzas, good crust, thin and crispy, chewy inside, a little char on the bottom. I have not been to fireside or coal vines yet. I've been paranoid due to all the bad Italian I've experienced here.
            Goodfella's is currently my favorite, being that it is less than 1 mile from where I live.

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              dalaimama RE: hhshames Oct 22, 2007 06:40 AM

              I like Piggie Pies on Greenville and Lover's. All my Yankee friends seem to really love it and think it's one of the closest Dallas has to NY pizza.

              There is a place on Hillcrest across from SMU (Olivetta's or something like that, sorry, can't remember), that is supposed to have NY style pizza and a pizza chef "imported" from NYC. I have not been there, but I have heard good things.

              Another very good pizza is at Louie's on Henderson. They have a very thin, almost cracker-like crust that gets a great char on it. The toppings are excellent. The owners are from Chicago. They also have excellent crab claws, salads (the Greek and the Caesar are wonderful), etc. Everything is good.

              I have to admit that I find Fireside Pies waaaay too greasy (as in literal puddles on the pie) and not worth the wait and the loudness. That and the 6 bucks for a Shiner. It's OK, but it's not really NY style.

              Taverna on Armstrong near Knox also has very good pizza. It's not NY style, but it's quite good.

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                Webra1 RE: dalaimama Oct 22, 2007 06:47 AM

                I think there's a good discussion of Olivella (and pizza in DFW) here: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/417154

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                  dalaimama RE: Webra1 Oct 22, 2007 07:08 AM

                  Thanks, I could not for the life of me remember the name and Guidelive doesn't return close matches, only direct hits.

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                J.R. RE: hhshames Oct 22, 2007 07:55 AM

                I'm a Pizza snob myself and I'd have to say Olivella's is the best pie in town hands down. It is small and it's a little pricey, but the ingredients and top notch. It's not NY syle, it's more Italian style. Coal Vines is also very good for NY style.

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                  primi_timpano RE: hhshames Oct 22, 2007 09:36 AM

                  I can second the Fireside recommendation. My personal favorite is Compania on McKinney. Thin style and excellent when the crust is a little burned. A few times they have been a little undercooked. It is also BYOB. If you forget the wine Cork is a block away and has a good wine selection.

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                    missmitzi RE: hhshames Oct 24, 2007 01:28 PM

                    When I lived in Dallas I always ordered pizza from Brother's Pizza on Travis (intersection of Travis and Fitzhugh). It is one of the few things I miss from Big D. They have the NY style crust. I particularly liked the plain cheese pizza.

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                      pinotho RE: hhshames Oct 24, 2007 02:13 PM

                      Marco's has good pizza....located at Preston and Royal, SE quadrant . Going in there kind of makes you sick at what the boy has done to his Mother's place , but they can still bring it .....who knows for how long .

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                        hhshames RE: pinotho Oct 24, 2007 08:26 PM

                        is that in the same shopping center as gazebo burgers? I get a little confused since there are 4 shopping centers and four corners.

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                          pinotho RE: hhshames Oct 25, 2007 01:04 PM

                          tell me about it.....Gazebo is located in the SW quadrant , while Marco's is located in the SE quadrant.

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                          kbye RE: pinotho Oct 30, 2007 01:23 PM

                          I like Marco's as well, mainly because of those spices they add to the pizza. Their crust, however, is thin without having that wonderful charred taste of Louie's. Overall, I'd rate Louie's pizza higher than Marco's for the thin-crust variety, which is my favorite.

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                            stooma RE: kbye Nov 24, 2007 03:14 PM

                            I agree with Marco's and Louie's as the best thin crust pizza in town. I grew up on Marco's... it has been family owned for decades. Louie's is really good as well plus the rest of their menu is top notch and worth a try... just make sure you bring cash or american express as they do not take other credit cards (last I checked).

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                          soulslinger RE: hhshames Oct 25, 2007 01:11 PM


                          Have you tried Campania - 3800 McKinney Ave - Ste 150 ? I believe them to be what you are searching for! They have gotten great reviews and I can attest to the greatness. Now I just got back from Rome and there are great pizza places all over so it is hard to say any place in Dallas is my favorite for pizza, but I think you will be surprised!

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                            hhshames RE: soulslinger Nov 10, 2007 07:10 AM

                            Thank you, for this suggestion. I have not been there and would love to try them out. Is this a whole pizza kind of place or can I just stop by an PU a slice?

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                            David Pearlman RE: hhshames Oct 26, 2007 02:00 PM

                            Strange but true, the closest thing to a great New York pizza is in the Central Market in Southlake. They have a great oven, and they do their pies in the style of Totonno's and Grimaldi's, i.e. a very thin crust, using only little rounds of fresh mozzarella, no processed cheese of any kind. Their margherita is excellent, and only $6.99 for a small pie. One of the most unexpectedly good things I've had in DFW.

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                              hhshames RE: David Pearlman Nov 10, 2007 07:12 AM

                              Gimaldi's, really? That is very interesting. I doubt I would have ever guess that CM would have pizza comparable to what some people I know would call one the best in NYC. I go to the one in Plano all the time. I guess I will need to take a peek. Thanks.

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                              mark2007 RE: hhshames Oct 26, 2007 07:35 PM

                              Well, I would try Don Panza. They cook the pizza in a stone oven, with no pan at all. It makes the pizza crusty in the bootom and a little doughy in the top. Cheese is streeeechable, and they have many (may be too many) different toppings. I tried both, a rare "Chimichurri" and the strong garlic taste"Napolitana" pizzas.
                              The place is not a big thing, but is CLEAN an has a nice covered patio and you can take your own beer. Hope it helps

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                                chickstein RE: hhshames Oct 29, 2007 08:22 PM

                                My husband and I made the trek to Mellow Mushroom in Ft. Worth. Located near the TCU campus. It was absolute heaven. I highly recommend it.

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                                  specialksigtau RE: chickstein Oct 30, 2007 11:09 AM

                                  So you've got your thin and your thick.
                                  The best thin in town is Sienna's which is located at southern edge of Coppell on MacArthur & Beltline. The pepporoni tastes real, a light sauce, and foldable crust make this our favorite. www.sienapastaandpizza.com
                                  The best thick in town, you can find at multiple locations b/c it's a micro brewery chain restaurant. There's a BJ's Brewery located in Lewisville and in Addison. They have the best deep dish. The crust reminds me of the thick crust from Pizza Hut in the 80's when they hand made the dough instead of mass producing it. The pizza is probably 3-4 inches high. Ask for the cajun shrimp alfredo which isn't on the menu. www.bjsbrewhouse.com

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                                  Carla Burke RE: hhshames Nov 8, 2007 05:51 PM

                                  I would try Campania, but be very specific about what you want. Their anchovies and tuna are exceptional, though not everyone's taste.

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                                    hhshames RE: Carla Burke Nov 10, 2007 07:18 AM

                                    I am a big fan of plain, pepperoni & a good, made with fresh ingredients, margarita pizza. And my husband LOVES a corner slice of Sicilian. Do they have that? If so I am in and it is a done deal

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                                    theonly RE: hhshames Nov 10, 2007 08:32 PM

                                    Campagna's on McKinney just north of West Village has authentic Italian pizza with the best cheeses imported. Also they are BYOB and there is nothing better than bringing your own red and having hot pizza brought to your table with a bunch of friends. Also love Fireside Pies for their patio and truffle oil on the Pepperoni pizza!

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                                      JYUMMY RE: theonly Nov 23, 2007 08:52 AM

                                      I have got to agree, Campana's Pizza is one of the best. The combination of authentic pizza, BYOB, and a casual dining experience is one of my favorites. Try the Doso with cherry tomatoes, extra virgin olive oil, basil, crushed red pepper, garlic and mozzarella. Pizza is my passion - my top choices in Dallas are: Campana's, Louie's, and Fireside Pies. None have ever let me down.

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                                      Thefoodczar RE: hhshames Nov 11, 2007 08:23 AM

                                      My dear, since you seem to live in or near Plano, might I recommend Tony's Pizza & Pasta in Carrollton on Midway just south of Rosemeade. Genuine New York Style Pizza at great prices! Find out all the details in my review on my Food Czar blog under the August postings. Their URL is www.tonyspizzapasta.com. I also love Fireside Pies and have a complete review of them under the June postings.

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                                        BenJ RE: hhshames Nov 14, 2007 01:01 PM

                                        Not sure if you would consider it NY style pizza, but The Loon on Lemmon Ave. has some damn good pizza. Not to mention the best drinks in town.

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                                          hhshames RE: BenJ Nov 18, 2007 12:14 PM

                                          I prefer their burgers, but we are in agreement on the cocktails.

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