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Salad at end of meal?

Teep Oct 19, 2007 11:22 AM

Hi, a Canadian friend whose parents came from England like to have the salad at the end of the main course, if he can. Is that more an at-home thing? British, or Canadian?

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    smartie RE: Teep Oct 19, 2007 11:26 AM

    I am English and am used to salad with your meal not first as in the US. Not seen it after a meal.

    1. thought_for_food RE: Teep Oct 19, 2007 11:27 AM

      I am Canadian, and lived in Britain, and enjoy salad at the end of the main course when at home.

      1. pescatarian RE: Teep Oct 19, 2007 11:30 AM

        Italians definitely eat their salad (just tossed greens in olive oil and red wine vinegar) at the end of their meal) at home.
        Canadians - well it depends on your heritage beyond Canada. In my experience, the majority eat their salad before the main course.

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          Will Owen RE: pescatarian Oct 19, 2007 01:54 PM

          It's also served at the end of a restaurant meal in Italy, although last time I was there some tourist-area restaurants down the coast from Genoa were making it available as an opener.

          At home in Illinois, it was usually served with the meal - as was everything else but dessert. At my in-laws' house, following French custom, it's served between the main course and dessert.

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            piccola RE: pescatarian Oct 19, 2007 04:47 PM

            We've always eaten it after the main course, before the dessert.

          2. Teep RE: Teep Oct 19, 2007 11:33 AM

            I always think people should search the site before they ask a question, and here I go doing the opposite! found this previous topic


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              charlesbois RE: Teep Oct 19, 2007 11:34 AM

              When I was living in France as a student, salads were eaten at the end of the main course and before the cheese course. This was in restaurants and at home, which was a very middle class home. So it could be a Canadian thing, via France. Of course in the states, it drives my friends crazy when I save my salad to eat after dinner, but hey to each her own.

              1. MMRuth RE: Teep Oct 19, 2007 11:36 AM

                We usually have the salad after the meal (I'm American, grew up in Europe & Canada, my husband is Dominican), but sometimes we have it before to "fill up" so we don't eat too much of other things!! Certainly in the Mid-West and South, where my parents now live, the salad is always served first in restaurants.

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                  brendastarlet RE: MMRuth Oct 19, 2007 01:57 PM

                  Salad before the end of the meal, with cheese. Sit for a bit to digest and then dessert.

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                    kindofabigdeal RE: MMRuth Oct 23, 2007 07:59 AM

                    I "fill up" with salad too. As I was thinking about that I decided that is probably a result of how salads are treated. Typical american salads are boring and don't have much use but for filling. Of course there's exceptions, but they're not the norm.

                  2. Miss Needle RE: Teep Oct 19, 2007 03:03 PM

                    I have noticed this in French restaurants. Honestly, eating salad at the end of a meal does make digestion more efficient as your stomach acids are more concentrated when you eat your protein (which is more difficult to digest).

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                      rexsreine RE: Teep Oct 19, 2007 03:41 PM

                      My Italian family ALWAYS ate salad at the end of the meal. Most of my French friends did this, too. In Italian, salads are sometimes called "Digestivi", referring, of course, to the digestion process. An explanation given to me about this concerned the particular type of vinegar used in Italian and French salad dressing. It is always a natural product, derived directly from soured wine, and thus contains live yeasts and bacteria which aid in the digestion of food.

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                        alkapal RE: rexsreine Oct 23, 2007 05:28 AM

                        rexsreine, if i just put old white wine in a cruet, when will i have this natural vinegar?

                      2. Gio RE: Teep Oct 19, 2007 05:19 PM

                        I always have my salad after the main course...at home and in restaurants.... if it looks like the server will have a coniption when I say this, I just keep the salad close to my left side and tell the server to leave it. This is from my Italian heritage.

                        1. macca RE: Teep Oct 20, 2007 04:05 AM

                          Growing up, we always had our salad before the meal- and I am American (Irish background). As an adult, I travelled extensively for business, adopted the habit of some of the Europena countries of the salad after the main course. This is how we eat our salads now. And it works well with one of my young family members- my 6 yo nephew would fill up on only salad if allowed, and his mom is from an Italian background, so the salad is after the main.

                          1. wino22 RE: Teep Oct 22, 2007 04:46 PM

                            Yep, at home (like others, Italian family) we ate the salad after the main course... usually dressed with just oil and vinegar. Now, I like to have it with my meal.

                            1. JMF RE: Teep Oct 23, 2007 04:53 AM

                              The salad before the meal is mainly an American (but sometimes British) thing that developed in restaurants to help fill one up with inexpensive greens before the main.

                              Traditionally in the Western world as part of a multi-course meal, salad is served near the end of a meal as something light to prepare you for the desert and cheese course.

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                                carswell RE: JMF Oct 23, 2007 08:20 AM

                                Some French salads are typically served as a first course. Bitter greens with a thick mustardy dressing, raw garlic, lardons and large country-bread crutons fried in the bacon fat alongside the lardons is much better as an appetizer than a palate cleanser.

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                                swsidejim RE: Teep Oct 23, 2007 05:26 AM

                                Not something I have ever seen.

                                For me if salad was served at the end of the meal, it would not get eaten, much like I never eat desert. I am typically too full after filling up on the main courses.

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                                  gourmethunter RE: Teep Oct 23, 2007 09:07 AM

                                  I'm Canadian...and my parents always served salad after or with the main course. In my own home salad is served before the main course just like it is in any restaurant I've been to.

                                  1. jfood RE: Teep Oct 23, 2007 09:16 AM

                                    jfood is beginning to change his view that salads at the end of the meal are a better way to serve. here's his logic. There have been countless times when the salad is good and does more than take the edge off the hunger. The brain has sufficient time to process the food in the stomach and starts sending out the electronic messages that OK guys, we're done. The when the entree arrives, jfood is not as hungry as he would like and maybe not njoy as mouch as he would have with a more empty belly.

                                    Interestingly at casa jfood, there is a salad next to the entree simultaneously. Mrs jfood eats her salad first and jfood eats in unison with the entree. Jfood is now starting to finish the entree first and then slowly finish the salad after the entree.

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                                      MMRuth RE: jfood Oct 23, 2007 02:09 PM

                                      Yes - at home we do it that way as well - and sometimes my husband has salad first - leaving my glorious (ha ha) cooked meal to cool off while doing so!!

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