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washingtonred Oct 16, 2007 10:46 AM

Suggestions Please

Dinner is Lamb Chops with carmelized onions and a fig compote~
Pairing suggestions please?

  1. washingtonred Oct 18, 2007 10:01 AM

    Thanks for all of your suggestions! The menu item was for a dinner out with some out of town guests. Go figure, I get to the restaurant and the item is no longer on their menu... Website way outdated!

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    1. re: washingtonred
      Bill Hunt Oct 18, 2007 06:13 PM

      Bogus! Now, tell us what you went with and the wines that you picked, please.

      Hunt

      1. re: Bill Hunt
        washingtonred Oct 24, 2007 09:27 AM

        I ended up with Ruby red Idaho trout steam baked in parchment with basil, lemon, mint and Flori di Sicilia ( I think this added a bit of orange to it?). The trout was paired with fingerling potatos, greens, and a bluberry buerre rouge was on the side~

        Opened a 2005 Maryhill Reserve Chardonnay~ Beautiful pairing, excellent meal.

        Hunt, be sure to add Ella's Supper Club to the list of wonderful places in Spokane.

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      ChefJune Oct 18, 2007 07:10 AM

      sounds like it would like a Gigondas to me.

      1. Bill Hunt Oct 17, 2007 06:19 PM

        If the chops are first grilled, prior to additional cooking with the components, I'd opt for a N. Rhône Syrah, either a Côte-Rôtie or Hermitage.

        As for the Ch. Musar, I've had it many times and all experiences have been excellent. I have not found it to be "unreliable," but then, one's mileage may vary.

        Hunt

        1. TonyO Oct 17, 2007 07:06 AM

          Here is my suggestion: Cuvee Le Bec from the Santa Ynez Valley @ $20. It is a blend of Grenache (46%), Mourvedre (23%), Syrah(22%), and Counoise(9%). Delicious, widely available, and fairly priced.

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          1. re: TonyO
            Bill Hunt Oct 17, 2007 06:21 PM

            Ah, Beckman's Cuvée Le Bec. Had not thought of that. One possible problem might be the availability. I did not see where the OP was located. In AZ, just over the mountains from CA, we can only get his Rosé (Grenache), though we always stop in a buy a few mixed cases, when in the SB area.

            Hunt

            1. re: Bill Hunt
              TonyO Oct 17, 2007 07:38 PM

              Hunt,

              I just ordered a mixed case (6 white/6 red) from www.wineaccess.com. $200 including shipping. I thought that was a good deal altough I have never had the white (I believe it is called Le Bec Blanc).

              1. re: TonyO
                Bill Hunt Oct 17, 2007 09:56 PM

                Though I have visited several times, I do not recall a white. Maybe this was kept in the back, away from the rif-raf, that would congregate in the tasting room, myself included. Even Mr. Beckman never mentioned this wine, but then, he probably saved it for the worthwhile customers, and not the likes of me. Let me know what I have been missing, and the blend of this wine, please.

                Hunt

                1. re: Bill Hunt
                  Megiac Oct 18, 2007 10:19 AM

                  I remember tasting a white at Beckmen in February. It was the last stop in a day of wine tasting, however, so I don't remember much else about it....

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            whiner Oct 16, 2007 09:18 PM

            Cote Rotie.

            That said, almost anything Syrah (preferably not Aussie) anything else Northern or Southern Rhone, or Piedmont would be good. A fruit driven Burgundy or New World Pinot could also be good.

            Actually... upon reflection... a good barrique aged Barbera (Sandrone, La Spinetta, Clerico, etc) might be the best pairing...

            Really, lamb pairs well with such a variety of reds...

            1. Dr. Debs Oct 16, 2007 07:17 PM

              Rhone wine, no question, will be excellent. There's a Rhone for every pocketbook, and I would guess any with grenache in it (most will also have syrah) would be excellent.

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                zin1953 Oct 16, 2007 05:16 PM

                Given the other ingredients, I'd go with a grenache-based Southern Rhone.

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                  Chicago Mike Oct 16, 2007 03:54 PM

                  Most richer reds will work fairly well...

                  For "lamb chops" by themselves, my first choice would be cabernet sauvignon...

                  But since you have the fig compote, you can tweak it just a bit to bring the overall dish closer to whatever red wine you ultimately select...

                  If you go with cabernet, add a hint of cheddar, gouda, or parmesan reggiano and fresh black pepper to the fig compote...

                  If zinfandel, a hint of parmesan and cranberry....

                  If syrah, a hint of pecorino and cranberry...

                  If Rioja, a hint of iberico and prosciutto....

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                  1. re: Chicago Mike
                    Frodnesor Oct 17, 2007 09:40 AM

                    At risk of re-starting the "Paula Wolfert Lamb Shanks Debate" all over again (which finally, mercifully ended last month), let me just say that I don't think the dish needs any help to pair well with wine, and that adding any form of cheese (or cranberry) to a fig compote is a bad - or at a minimum, unnecessary - idea.

                    1. re: Frodnesor
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                      Chicago Mike Oct 17, 2007 01:11 PM

                      Compotes are routinely mixed with all sorts of ingredients.... the ones I list above are very tame, but suit your own palate.

                      Here's 21 Fig and Cheese recipes to get you started:
                      http://www.recipezaar.com/recipes.php?q=fig+cheese

                      Here's a couple Fig and Cranberry recipes to get you started (this one served with cheese, btw):
                      http://festivalfoods.net/recipes/cranberfigwal.pdf

                      Another Fig-Cranberry Compote from Bon Appetit:
                      http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/5690

                      Here's a picture of a Duck entree served with Fig-cranberry compote:
                      http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2004/12/05/CMWINE34pairings.DTL&o=3

                      If you scroll down to the bottom of the following link you'll find a recipe for traditional Emiglia-Romagna Fig & Cranberry Compote:
                      http://www.virtualitalia.com/recipes/...

                      The next time I post there, I'll inform them that you think their recipes are bad ideas!

                      1. re: Chicago Mike
                        Frodnesor Oct 17, 2007 02:15 PM

                        - Thanks, that'll save me the trouble of paying a visit to "recipezaar.com".
                        - The fact that a recipe exists doesn't mean it's a good one.
                        - I've got no problem with figs & cheese together, or even figs & cranberries together (though that picture of a duck breast w/ figs and cranberries en croute looked like a scary Hot Pocket). I simply feel absolutely no compulsion whatsoever to combine them in a dish which sounds perfectly fine as it is.
                        - I will say no more. This is exactly how the never-ending Lamb Shanks quagmire started. One simple disagreement, a couple googled recipe lists, and before you know it you have 500,000 troops in Vietnam.

                        1. re: Frodnesor
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                          Chicago Mike Oct 17, 2007 03:51 PM

                          while any number of dishes are "perfectly fine as they are", the issue (for me anyway), is not the dish by itself but the dish as a match for the wine...

                          .... and as a wine match, IMO the dish certainly can be improved....

                          Further, the poster gives no specific recipe for the fig compote they have in mind, another reason why I'm offering these recipe suggestions for it.

                  2. Frodnesor Oct 16, 2007 11:33 AM

                    A grenache-based rhone blend would probably really complement the fig component in particular.

                    1. carswell Oct 16, 2007 10:56 AM

                      Any of a wide range of rich reds. The sweet onions and compote would argue in favour of a sweeter style. Syrah, Cabernet Sauvignon, Zinfandel, Rhône blend, Languedoc-Roussillon. Personally, I'd probably reach for one of the fine red blends from Lebannon made from varieties like Cabernet Sauvignon, Syrah and Cinsault.

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                        RicRios Oct 17, 2007 01:45 AM

                        "one of the fine red blends from Lebannon "

                        Which ones, besides the (very unreliable) Chateau Musar ?

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                          zin1953 Oct 17, 2007 07:28 AM

                          It's not that unreliable -- not in my experience.

                          1. re: RicRios
                            carswell Oct 17, 2007 08:36 AM

                            Musar tastes different, sometimes significantly different (though almost always delicious), from vintage to vintage but is fairly consistent from bottle to bottle within a vintage. Wouldn't call that unreliable.

                            Have enjoyed the Château St-Thomas line across the board, and the top bottling delivers great QPR. Château de Kefraya's Conte de M is excellent if pricey. The top Ksara cuvées are worthwhile. I also enjoy the Musar/Hochar lower-end cuvées. Château Les Cèdres ain't bad either.

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