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Anyone tried the Frisper?

leanneabe Oct 15, 2007 02:23 PM

I've read about this Frisper on both Popgadget and The Kitchen - it's sold through Sharper Image and online (and apparently at LNT, but I haven't seen it). It's like a compact vacuum sealer with reusable zipper bags. I like that you can reuse the bags and I like the small footprint of the machine (the Food Saver is just so big!). I was just wondering if anyone's seen it in person or (even better) actually used one?

http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/product/sku__OL002?siteid=H5qyAMQjz9o-_CZzsmLJmz.uWU6eY.RMCA
http://www.oliso.com/frisper/index.php

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    jzerocsk Oct 16, 2007 06:29 AM

    Haven't used it. Assuming the bags aren't absurdly expensive and the zipper holds a good seal it might not be too bad.

    Also it's worth mentioning that FoodSaver bags are also washable/reusable when used with non-raw stuff. You have to cut a bit off each time you open it so you have to make sure you leave some wiggle room, but they can be reused until they get too small.

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      andrea thurm Feb 1, 2008 08:26 AM

      I just bought a Frisper and will certainly try it soon. I also liked the small size. Not to mention the fact that there are so many different Foodsaver models that I didn't know which one to buy. It also looked like the less expensive models were not as user-friendly. When it arrived, I have to admit that I didn't like reading that they don't recommend reusing the bags with meat, fish and poultry because I plan to use them for sous-vide cooking... so I actually am happy to hear that the Foodsaver bags have a similar limitation! The Frisper bags, incidentally, are better for reusing - they have a zipper closure so there's no cutting involved and no worry about making the bags too small. I'm hoping that the meat-poultry-fish caveat is to comply with their lawyers and that it's possible to wash them well enough in the dishwasher to use them again safely... If not, it's more of an inconvenience than a calamity. I paid only 50 cents apiece from surlatable.com and I suspect they can be found for less.

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        leanneabe Feb 1, 2008 11:40 AM

        Aside from sous-vide, we've found that the Reynold's Handi-Vac has a very similar design to the Frisper. The bags are resealable (and revacuumable) with a zip-top and come in quart and gallon sizes. The quart bags come out to be about 15 cents per bag. Some people have used them (there's a thread on this board about them) more than once by washing and drying.

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          Mother of four Feb 1, 2008 04:32 PM

          Not to mention that the Reynold's Handi-Vac only costs $9.95! It's a wonderful little gadget.

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            kwan.soo Feb 2, 2008 02:11 AM

            Where did you buy yours Mother?

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              Mother of four Feb 4, 2008 01:51 AM

              Krogers in MI, and Puplix in FL. I think that almost everyone carries them now.

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                kwan.soo Feb 5, 2008 04:50 AM

                Thank you.

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              monkuboy Feb 2, 2008 06:45 PM

              I checked out the Reynold's on Amazon.com and a lot of people bought theirs at Wal Mart. I went there today and the one in my area doesn't sell them. All they had were the much more expensive Food Saver and Rival machines. I wonder if they pressured WalMart to stop selling the Reynolds? It's not on their website, either.

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                leanneabe Feb 4, 2008 12:30 PM

                Our Walmart still carries both the sealer and the bags. I've also seen them in Target and our grocery stores.

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                  monkuboy Feb 4, 2008 02:15 PM

                  Maybe I was looking in the wrong place. On Reynold's website it says to look where all the food storage bags are. I was looking at the food sealing equipment section. It would make sense to me to put it in the same place as the Foodsaver but who knows.

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                    leanneabe Feb 5, 2008 11:20 AM

                    It'll be right on the shelves next to the regular Ziploc bags and plastic wrap. I find the quart-size bags are more useful than the gallon, but it all depends on what you want to seal up.

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                      monkuboy Feb 5, 2008 12:01 PM

                      Thanks! I must have been looking in the wrong place. I ought to try the straw method mentioned by Sam Fujisaka in the post below first, though..

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                        leanneabe Feb 6, 2008 11:08 AM

                        For less than $10, you can buy a more powerful vacuum than a straw and your lungs. I really think you'll find the Handi-Vac worth the purchase, even if it does take up more room than a straw. =)

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                          monkuboy Feb 6, 2008 05:30 PM

                          You're right.. now I just need to find one of them thangs..

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                            kwan.soo Feb 7, 2008 07:39 PM

                            I just got mine yesterday from Target in Austin Tx. Under $10. Occupies much less space than my Food Saver. Most importantly, it works like a dream.

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                      RShea78 May 19, 2009 09:45 PM

                      >>Maybe I was looking in the wrong place. (RE: Walmart)<<

                      Well, I once searched for 10 minutes for some microwave popcorn. Finally an associate told me they are over in infants!!! Walmart needs to change their "Always..." spiel to Always in hiding...

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                    MysticYoYo Feb 7, 2008 08:01 PM

                    I have seen the Reynold's Handi-Vac in Wal-Mart in the section with the freezer bags, aluminum foil, etc.

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                      alkapal Feb 8, 2008 09:06 AM

                      that would be an interesting anti-trust issue....

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                        monkuboy Feb 8, 2008 11:41 AM

                        True but it turned out to be an "I was looking in the wrong place issue," lol.. I was reading some reviews of the Reynolds on Amazon and some people say the thing won't seal properly. I wonder if there is any validity to that or if it is just a case of "operator error" as is frequently the case.

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              uh ... art Feb 4, 2008 12:40 PM

              How are the Frisper and the Handi-Vac different from the old fashioned
              technique of squeezing the air out of a zip-lock bag by hand?

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              1. re: uh ... art
                leanneabe Feb 6, 2008 11:07 AM

                The same reason Foodsavers are different from hand squeezing air - you get a vacuum seal. Vacuums tend to get more air out of void spaces than just hand squeezing.

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                  MikeG Feb 8, 2008 08:47 AM

                  Exactly, Even a straw will give you only an "esthetic" vacuum, unless of course you have superhuman lungs. ;) Since I just bought a HandiVac last night, I've used the straw and squeeze methods for years but realistically, they don't do all that much...

                  So far I've just played with the machine a bit. It quite obviously doesn't pull a vacuum anywhere near as strong as a Foodsaver and the bags are surprisingly thin - thinner than their regular freezer bags. But for $10, I'm sure it will come in handy and I neither have room for nor a realistic "need" for a $100+ machine....

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                    Sam Fujisaka Feb 10, 2008 07:35 PM

                    Ok to all of you upthread. Send me one of those $10 wonders to compare with my straw.

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                      monkuboy Feb 10, 2008 07:41 PM

                      I finally looked in the right place at WalMart and bought one of those Reynolds Handi-Vacs today. Even in the right section it is not easy to spot them - they're sitting in a small carton on one of the sheves looking very anoynomous. Only $9.48. I don't have anything to use it on right now but will report as soon as I give it a try!

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                      uh ... art Feb 10, 2008 11:09 PM

                      MikeG, You're confusing creating a vacuum in a rigid container with creating a vacuum in a flexible container. You don't need superhuman lungs to suck all the air out of a ziplock bag. You get help from the ambient airpressure on the order of 14lbs per square inch.

                      Try it -- take an empty ziplock bag and suck all the air out of it. Perfect vacuum.

                2. Sam Fujisaka Feb 4, 2008 12:51 PM

                  I use a straw to suck the air out of zip lock bags: less than $0.01 @, takes little space, and no moving parts.

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                  1. re: Sam Fujisaka
                    monkuboy Feb 4, 2008 02:15 PM

                    You know that's a great idea. It does the same thing as one of those vacuums except you have to be careful not to accidentally suck in raw meat juices!

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                    yasuosonoda Apr 18, 2009 12:02 PM

                    Met the guy who designed it (incidentally, he was one of the chief engineers at FoodSaver) and saw the demo, bought it on the spot (Sur la Table carries them, at least at SF Ferry Plaza market.) All the things you complain about FoodSaver, Frisper fixed:

                    1. The unit is big
                    2. You have to deep pressing to seal the bags
                    3. Bags are not re-useable
                    4. You either buy the non re-useable bags, or you have to buy the rolls which require cutting, which is sometimes real annoying if you cut the bag too short

                    Frisper is the way to go. The only thing I need it does not do is to seal stuff like stew- no wet stuff yet. The guy said they are designing it as we speak.

                    Oh and the unit comes with 5 gallons and 5 one quart bags--the replacement bags cost $9.95, 20 pack, but folks, the labeling says you can use them up to 20 times. You do the math!

                     
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                      stuck in Hartford County Apr 18, 2009 01:57 PM

                      sounds like another thing to debate about keeping on the counter...

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                        alkapal May 19, 2009 05:20 AM

                        seems like people love it or hate it a/c to amazon reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Oliso-FF-500-Fr...

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                          ringo2 Dec 16, 2009 04:10 PM

                          I reuse my FreshSaver bags all the time. The Frisper bags are more robust (I have both), but actually harder to wash. The question is, if you can boil food in them, can you boil water in them to wash them?

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                          aforitori May 19, 2009 02:43 PM

                          Bought one from Sur la Table (http://www.surlatable.com/) (SF, Embarcadero) while at the farmers' market. Does what it says. Very easy to use -just make sure you have zipped the bags tight. I also vacuum sealed some old coins, silver, etc. Bags are reusable without having to cut them shorter every time like the old Food Savers. Very space efficient. Would have liked one with a rechargeable battery.

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                            ringo2 Dec 16, 2009 04:03 PM

                            I agree with the rechargeable battery - first, because the thing has no off switch (feh), and second, because, while the Frisper folks are going after Foodsaver as their competition, they should also be going after spacebags (https://www.spacebag.com/).

                            Spacebags attach to your vacuum cleaner to vacuum down, which is great for storage, but impossible to use to pack for a trip. I've got a Frisper to use in the kitchen, but it would be so cool if they had giant bags to use for dirty sports gear and laundry. I'd take one with me.

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                            Grayed Feb 15, 2010 09:22 AM

                            Bought one yesterday at an RV show. It worked great there, so we bought one. Got it home, found that it takes about five times as long to evacuate the air as the demo unit, then doesn't seal. Does not work at all.

                            Oliso (the maker) has website, but product registration section is 404 (not found), customer service area is 404 (dead link), contact us site is 404 (not found). Not looking good for an exchange or refund, is it?

                            Piece of junk, no customer support. NOT RECOMMENDED.

                            Waste of $100 CAD for a piece of junk.

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                              alkapal Feb 15, 2010 05:34 PM

                              i sure as heck would go back ( via phoning, email or snail mail) to the person who sold it to you and demand your money back -- or if you paid on credit, address the problem with your credit card company.

                              if the demo unit was different than what they sold you, and the fact was undisclosed, that is fraud.

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                                Grayed Feb 23, 2010 08:21 AM

                                Tracked this back to the local supplier at the show, went online, found a phone number for the distributor. Called her and she gave directions to send it back. Got a totally new unit by courier yesterday and she paid our shipping too. New unit works fine.

                                After my visit to the totally useless Oliso site, I had phoned their 800 number to let them know of my problems. To my surprise, I also got a phone call from Oliso. The fellow explained that an attack on their site had left it in pretty bad shape and they were working hard to restore service. Today there is a note on their site that a former employee (it's not me!) is smearing them in social media.

                                I now have a working unit. While I'm not totally impressed with the whole process, it seems that customer satisfaction is important to them and that they are working to straighten out their problems.

                                Anybody know how I can edit my previous post?

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