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I love doing Thanksgiving, but this year I refuse to put up w/ a mediocre roasting pan. I want to make a good sauce/gravy and have a large, heavy pan. I threw money away on a Cuisinart $95 pan which nearly ruined by Passover briscuit.

So, I'm looking at the $200 All Clad roaster or the $300 Viking. Beautiful pans, indeed. Do I need to spend that much? Any discounts available?

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  1. Are you looking at the BIG All-Clad or the Petit Roti? Even the Petit is heavy by itself, put a huge turkey into it and you'll need a crane to help you get it out of the oven. I paid $99 for my Petit last year (on-line), the best I could do just recently was $149 when I bought it for my daughter (on Amazon).

    1. Calphalon makes a great clad stainless roaster that is (last time I checked) $100.

      1. I like the Calphalon tri-ply stainless line. If you really want to stay with all clad you can try out their lasagna pan which is only around 100 but won't include the rack and is a little smaller like 15x12 rather than 16x13.

        1. Check out the Bourgeat Tradition Plus. It doesn't have a rack included (you can use any rack), but it is a beautiful, heavy duty professional pan that I bought this year for about $160 at yourcookware.com. I bought the smallest, which is quite wide and big enough for a 24 lb. turkey. I can't even imagine needing the biggest one.

          1. I have an All Clad and I love it.

            But I think they are making their roasting pans in China now :(

            1. Last I checked the All Clad wasn't. Clad, that is, but solid steel, meaning hot spots aplenty when you use it on a stove burner (to make a sauce with the pan drippings, for example). And a supposed feature that I think's a bug is the shallow moat around the bottom of the pan, another impediment to sauce making.

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              1. re: carswell

                Mine works perfectly on the stove and if it has a moat, I don't even recall it. Certainly doesn't prevent me from making killer gravy.

                I am told that the ones made in China are not as good, quality-wise.

                1. re: C. Hamster

                  OH NO!!! The one I JUST bought for my daughter IS made in China (I went back to the Amazon website and it does NOT say this, but it does say it on the box).

                  Does anyone have actual experience with these China-made ones (any websites where they discuss this, etc.). I don't know what to do...we are not seeing her for her birthday until the end of the month, which will be after my Amazon 30 day return window. And if I don't get her this, then which one? She wanted the All-Clad because I love mine.

                  Is it still good, but not "as good", or is it really terrible? I'm really p*ssed that I also paid more money for the inferior product!

                  1. re: Eujeanie

                    Well here's an interesting development! Sure enough I had my old box in the garage that MY All-Clad came in maybe two years ago, and guess what:

                    "Made in Korea for All-Clad"...

                    So is that better? or worse?

                    1. re: Eujeanie

                      Wish I could help you but I don't have any personal experience with their items made overseas. My USA stuff id\s top notch.

                      I have been told that people are not as pleased with the China-made stuff, but again, I am not sure if that's actually true.

              2. Look into Sur La Table's house brand. It is clad. It also is made in China, but I've been told that SLT has pretty good quality control in place. It's also 1/3 the cost of the Viking. My main cookware line is All Clad Ltd. with a couple of pieces of Staub and LC, and the SLT roaster definitely holds its own qualitywise.

                http://www.surlatable.com/product/coo...

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                1. re: Sam Harmon

                  I just checked the new one and sure enough, it has the moat! It will be going back tomorrow. I'm so disappointed.

                2. Cook's Illustrated, which generally (but not always) know what it is talking about, used to recommend the All-Clad, but found after lots of use that it warped, and did not work that well on the stove. They did a new set of testing, and the Calphalon tri-ply is now their top pick (and cheaper).

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                  1. re: simnick

                    Wow. You'd really have to be hard on it to get it to warp. It's thick and heavy. But mine was made in the USA and now this piece is made in China.

                    1. re: C. Hamster

                      All-Clad has a brand name... not that Calphalon doesn't themselves, but All-Clad can charge more for a lesser quality item simply because they can call it All-Clad. For crap's sake - have you priced an All-Clad slow cooker?! I laugh in the face of anyone who pays for that overpriced space heater...

                      1. re: HaagenDazs

                        Their slow cooker is expensive because the insert can be used on the stovetop.

                        Though I'm not sure what complaining about the price of a slow cooker has to do with a discussion of cookware.

                        All Clad makes very good quality cookware -- at least the pieces made here. If you don't want to pay for that, fine. There are loads of places to buy it at very reasonable prices and I am happy to have mine.

                    2. re: simnick

                      I just ordered the Caphalon tri-ply stainless steel roaster from cooking.com
                      $99.99 and there's a coupon code you can use to get shipping cost down to 4.99

                      Lots cheaper than Macy's. Amazon does not have it in stock. Broadway panhandler does, but it seems the sides are slightly lower (and you want higher sides for a big roast, as in turkey!)
                      thanks simnick and haagendaz!