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Oct 8, 2007 02:55 PM

Baltimore Help

New Yorker looking for recommendations. We're 2 couples 60ish (not hip) looking for a good casual dinner place. It doesn't have to be in walking distance, we can drive. It could be anything (Seafood, Italian, American,...not fusion anything, remember NOT hip). Price is not really an issue. We're old friends and would like to be able to enjoy the food and conversation. Don't worry if it's 'hard to find' we're 60 but GPS enabled.

I liked Bertha's last year but the menu may not be for everyone. We liked the crab cakes at G&M but the place was a little uncomfortable. You get the picture.

Your help would be appreciated.

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  1. Brewer's Art is one of my favorite spots. It tends to be a little croweded on the weekends but a Monday night shouold be low key. Upstairs has a nice bar and a lovely dining room. 1106 N. Charles St. Baltimore, MD 21201 Phone: 410-547-6925

    Close by is the Helmand. I have not been there but have heard good things about it
    The Helmand Restaurant
    806 North Charles Street
    Baltimore, MD 21201-5308

    I hope that helps :-)

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    1. re: amethiste

      second helmand. solid country style food. very casual...

      1. re: curious4food

        I'll keep it in mind; but Afghan may not be embraced by everyone. My wife never even tried Chinese till she was 21 (seriously). If in Boston, I'd go to Durgin Park. If in Pittsburgh I'd go to Max's Allegheny. If in Connecticut I'd go to Lenny's in Branford. If I could get a reservation, in Brooklyn I'd go to Luger's. They all may not be comparable but my generation would enjoy the experience.

        BTW, I do appreciate the suggestions.

        1. re: kozel

          Petit Louis in Roland Park? Although it can get a little loud when it's busy....I've had some lovely meals there.

          1. re: misssphinx

            Are you seeking a weekend evening or weeknight evening? Hipness factors tend to decrease during the week... :-)

            1. re: bordeauxfan

              That would be Friday evening and thanks for the link to Petit Louis missphinx.

          2. re: kozel

            If you like Luger's, the Prime Rib might be perfect for you. 50's style nightclub decor and great beef, especially the eponymous one and the veal chop. It's not casual, though.Sportsjackets are required for men. The wine list has some great wines at very good prices.

            1. re: kozel

              I mentioned this in another thread recently, so apologies if repeating myself like this is bad Chow-form, but Helmand is incredibly accessible. My wife and I had our wedding rehearsal dinner there, and everyone -- from the most picky, non-foodie members of her family to the youngest kids to the biggest food snobs -- loved it. It's a lot of perfectly grilled meats and rice and so on, much less "foreign" and intimidating than Chinese or even Mexican food. And it fits your other criteria to a T. (Sorry for the near-evangelism -- I'm a huge fan of the place, and hate to see people miss out.)

              The Black Olive is also a terrific suggestion (below), although a lot pricier, and I adore Petit Louis.

              Chameleon Cafe on Harford Road is also fantastic -- the menu is a little quirkier, but the atmosphere isn't particularly hip at all, and the food is great.


              1. re: matt8313

                I agree that Helmand is great and you shouldn't be put off by the fact that it's Afghan. You need not be an adventurous eater to enjoy it. The lamb chops are delicious, among other things. I also love the Chameleon, a lot of bang for your buck. Both these places are fairly casual as is virtually every place in B-more with the exception of the Prime Rib, Charleston, and Tio Pepe (which is an old school Spanish place you might enjoy despite its being slightly dressy).

        2. A few suggestions
          Hull Street Blues in the Federal Hill aea
          Pierpoints on Alicenna Street in Fells Point
          Black Olive on Bond Street in Fells Point

          1. Check out the Cindy Wolfe food empire, particularly Charleston. With a low country/seafood oriented menu, and easily the city's top restaurant (with prices to match), this place may be what you are looking for. Wolfe has opened a new place next to Charleston called Cinghiale which does northern Italian cooking.

            Petit Louis is classic Country French bistro style food. A nearby place with a similar menu is Brasserie Tatin.

            1. Well, I am 50 ish and probably not hip by some people's standards(I don't want anything fusion). I will give you my best suggestions: the Sunset Restaurant on Greenway in Glen Burnie (great for people 40 ish to 60 ish, good food and quiet enough to talk), Snyder's Willow Grove in Linthicum on Hammonds Ferry Road, or if you feel like a drive, Fisherman's Inn right over the Bay Bridge at Kent Narrows.
              Have a great time !

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              1. re: SUSAN IN MD.

                Much appreciated, thanks to all! I'll report back next week. I'll email your suggestions to the others and get a dialog going. We'll be there for the big knitting convention (further proof of non-HIPness). And ko01, thanks for the suggestion on the Prim Rib. The jacket requirement may be a deal breaker though. The next time I get that far dressed up, the jacket may have a zipper up the back and I'll be wearing it lying down.

              2. kozel hope I didn't miss the boat, I would strongly recommend the Chameleon Cafe on Harford Rd. Great food, drinks & atmosphere, a local place in the best way, no jacket required! You can check them out at


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                1. re: bkath

                  I would 2nd or 3rd the recommendation for Chameleon Cafe. It's laid back but very good food, not at all what I would describe as hip, although there is a nice diverse group of diners. I've had some atrocious service experiences at Black Olive, for that reason alone (bolstered by price) I'd avoid it at all costs! and if the weather stays this nice, the CCafe has a patio/deck area.