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other than the overpriced "star" restaurants, anything decent in Vegas?

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  1. there are so many good places to eat but my favourites are mon ami gabi in the paris hotel - good french bistro - not too fancy not too expensive
    mesa - more expensive but delish and my husband loves it too
    i also love nobu in the hard rock - i found it very reasonably priced and more fun than nobu in new york

    we are planning a trip in a couple of months and so far we planning to try b&b in the venetian and bouchon - also in the venetian
    then maybe stripsteak or craftsteak

    1. Gotta love people that tell you things are discussed already, but have the time to disgruntingly tell you about it... anyway:

      Mesa Grill (Caesars) is among my favorites - this is surely a "star" resto but it really is great food that is unique
      Burger Bar (Mandalay Bay) - laid back and one of the places that you really cant miss out on. Burgers are off the hook and tremendous selection on tap- great to catch games
      Sensi (Bellagio Spa Tower)- Probably my favorite restaurant west of Chicago. Never anything but tremendous experience there and the food is the best you will ever find. Eclectic
      In N Out Burger- Can come from East coast and not hit the classic stand by.
      If you have the urge for a buffet, forget the name but the one in Planet Hollywood (used to be Aladdin) is my personal choice.

      Have a great time and if there are specific types of places you may look for, ask away.

      1. Bouchon--where I think I had...one of my top 5 meals of my life.
        ditto Nobu--Which was better than my Nobu experiences here in NYC.

        and i agree with yankeefan--IN N OUT!!!!

        and because you can't do vegas without hitting a buffet--try the wynn for the decor and selection.

        1. Search the Southwest board for Lotus of Siam or LOS. Awesome reasonable Thai food off the strip (but close). Been called best Thai restaurant in the US by many.

          1. Just got back from ANOTHER biz trip to Vegas which once again cements my opinion that Vegas stinks! That is, unless you really are turned on by traffic worse than L.A., hordes of clueless people and lines to get in almost anywhere. But, at least the new Rental Car Center 10 minutes from the airport is a giant step backwards!

            Now that my rant is over, I'd suggest Mayflower Cuisinier on west Sahara for a non-touristy, Asian fusion mostly overlooked choice. A little further out on Sahara is Rosemary's which has gotten almost as much press here as Lotus of Siam. By the way, I am also a fan of Komol which is another Thai restaurant in the same seedy shopping center as LOS.

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            1. re: IslayMan

              I was recently to Vegas for the first time and I have to half agree with you - the STRIP stinks, but we had a really good time downtown on Fremont Street. We stayed at the Golden Nugget, had two really good meals at The Grotto and Hugo's Cellar, and one really horrible meal on the strip at The Bellagio Buffet. In my opinion, because the strip is so popular, they all feel as if they don't even have to try to get your business, while downtown they are more apt to bend over backwards!

              1. re: swf36d

                How can anyone say the Strip stinks?!?! What is wrong with you? You're not SUPPOSED to be driving up and down the Strip, you're supposed to walk or take back roads! Or the monorail! Lines to get in where?? You really have to try hard to not have fun on the Strip, methinks you were pissy before you got there.

                And you can't compare a meal at the Bellagio Buffet to Hugo's Cellar. Compare it to some of the priciest places on the Strip, because that's how much Hugo's charges, without their ambience or view.

                1. re: elrushbo

                  Heh. I was thinking the same thing elrushbo.

                  The Strip is where 90% of the great restaurants are in Vegas - not to mention the PARTY atmosphere. You are supposed to have fun at a party, right?

                  I've never been to Hugo's. Not worth it, eh?

                  1. re: azbirdiemaker

                    I haven't been there, people seem to like it, but it seems too expensive for the location. It's around Le Atelier prices. Got a lousy review in the review-journal a few years ago. Dirty tablecloths, staff standing around loudly gossiping and not helping, but that must have been an off night. I just don't feel compelled to spend that kind of money there. I could eat at Michael Mina, Bradley Ogden, and know I'm getting great food and great ambience. I just love the atmosphere on the Strip too much to want to try a place like Hugo's downtown. I wouldn't mind going to Ellis Island for barbeque, though.

                    You got it right about the Strip...I LOVE being able to go to an amazing restaurant like Prime and see that fountain view, then walk out and see the Bellagio gardens then walk on the Strip! It's like the fun atmosphere is everywhere! I've never had a problem with crowds in Vegas, most everyone is in a great mood, there's so much to look at.

                    1. re: elrushbo

                      Sorry people, not pissy, just saying it how I see it. I walked 8 miles on the strip in one day, so I wasn't driving. To me, everything on the strip was beautiful, just too far from point A to point B. When I go to a 4-star place, buffet or not, I expect 4-star food. As far as prices at Hugo's Cellar, dinner for two, with appizers and wine came to $137, I think that is quite a bit less than dinner at Le Atelier.

                    2. re: azbirdiemaker

                      My fiance and I ate at Hugo's Cellar last Friday night and both thought it was wonderful, and it is nowhere near as expensive as the big name places on the strip. The ambiance is that of an old school steakhouse, and it has personality. Entrees are approximately $34-46 each, but they come with a huge salad prepared tableside, bread, potato or rice, and chocolate dipped fruit for desert. We got out of there with rack of lamb, a duck dish, and a bottle of Zin for about $130 plus tip. Everything was very good and I'd highly recommend it.

                    3. re: elrushbo

                      I guess its 'hip' to bash the strip or maybe just to be different than the tourists like myself who have had unbelieveable dining experiences on the strip. And Im not too good to admit that.

                      The options are absolutely limitless and to be honest- an unbelieveable amount of fun just to try them out. It really isnt fair or honest to advise someone that there is nothing unique or good on the strip in terms of restaurants.

                      Where else in the country within a quarter mile can you hit restaurants that are offered by the bellagio, hard rock, wynn, caesars, etc..

                      1. re: swf36d

                        Not that Las Vegas needs defending in any way (this is a resort city, nothing more, nothing less), but when there are comparisons made to other cities in terms of restuarant clusters in any neighborhood, here is just a partial list of what can be found between the Wynn Resort and Mandalay Bay, an area of a little under three miles. These are in no particular order, and yes, someone could nitpick many on the list. But it does give a good idea as to just what is available in a very small area -

                        Bartollota, Alex, Corsa, Daniel Boulud, Tableau, Okada, Wing Lei, SW Steakhouse, B&B Ristorante, Delmonico's, Postrio, Aquaknox, Bouchon, David Burke, Pinto Brasserie, Valentino, Enoteca San Marco,Tao, Zeffirino, Japonais, 808, Bradley Ogden, Rao's, Guy Savoy, Joe's Stone Crabs, Mesa Grill, Spago, The Palm, Il Mulino, BOA Steakhouse, Chinois, Sushi Roku, Le Cirque, Circo, Prime, Picasso, Michael Mina, Jasmine, Shintaro, Andre's, Eiffel Tower, Mon Ami Gabi, Mix, Fleur del Lys, Aureole, RM Seafood, Stripsteak, Emeril's, Sea Blue, Joel Robuchon, Craftsteak, Charlie Parlmer, Nobhill, Fiamma, Burger Bar, Pearl, Border Grill, Shibuya.

                        That is only a partial list, and might be less than half of all of the restaurants in that stretch (nothing at all made this list from Bally's, the Tropicana, Aladdin, Barbary Coast, Harrah's or Imperial Palace, for instance). Not bad for about three miles.

                        1. re: QAW

                          The Barbary Coast is no more: it's now called Bill's Gambling Hall. It's my bet for the next property to fold, and get imploded in this town. The Flamingo Hilton's wanted that property for many, many years to give themselves more parking for guests.

                          This town has many, many great places to eat, NOT on the Strip. I work on the Strip, and 9 times out of 10, I dread coming down here, unless it's for work. It's a madhouse 365 days a year.

                          This city may -not- be NYC, or LA, but I take offense that people don't care to scratch below the surface, and find the good places to explore and eat. Then agan, more for us who are willing to go search for it!

                          I'm really, really curious: For some reason, people who post questions about Las Vegas seem to re-ask the same questions others have asked many, many times. Do people not bother searching the boards, to investigate deeper? I can understand detailed, pointed questions on things, but the same "what's good to eat on the Strip" has probably 10 different topics.

                          No insult meant to anyone here, it's just something i've noticed with the southwest board in particular.

                          1. re: Honeychan

                            Honeychan: Excellent points and very perceptive. The "what's on the strip" gets asked over and over and I begin to wonder if most people can't read: SEARCH! Rosemary's, off the strip, also gets regular attention. I, for one, have always ventured off-strip and into town for real diversity. Don't know how long you've lived in Vegas but do you remember The Garlic Cafe or Saigon? I was sorry to them fold. There are several Italian places that I frequent as well as hole-in-the-wall Asian. As much as I hate to defend the Strip-philes, many who come to Vegas do not rent cars so getting out to explore can be difficult. Come to think of it, with the new horribly inconvenient Rental Car Center at the airport, I may not rent a car again! (Just kidding.)

                            1. re: Honeychan

                              I can understand why tourists on their first visit to Las Vegas focus on the Strip, but it has never been my preference. I'm from New York, where the Mexican and Thai situation is slowly improving, but it will be a long time before NY matches Las Vegas in either cuisine.

                              Today, I intended to go to Taco Cartel for lunch but the place is under construction and changing names, so I headed for Marianna's Supermarket on Valley View and Sahara, which is like a little miracle. I would kill to have a Mexican place like that in NY. Yesterday, I had a 100% Spring Mountain day. Lunch at Hue's Thai Sandwiches for a fantastic House Special bahn mi and a mango slush (delicious but guaranteed to provide an "ice cream headache." A couple of superb doughnuts from Ronald's (better than any doughnuts in the five boroughs of NY), and a good if uneven fish-oriented dinner at Joyful House (as usual, the live fish are expensive; they are running a special on lobster -- $19.95 a pound -- but the smallest lobsters are 4-5 pounds).

                              I tried to eat at Paradise Grill, the new Peruvian on Decatur, but they closed early on me.

                              What a great eating city Las Vegas is. And that's not even mentioning a certain Thai restaurant that I like a lot.

                              1. re: Dave Feldman

                                Have not been to Paradise Grill since they opened, but if you want a Peruvian sleeper, Las Americas at 2319 South Eastern reminds me a lot of past trips to Lima. It is in a seedy strip mall and has no atmosphere, but they take a lot of pride in what they do in the kitchen. Authentic ceviche, and the kind of garlicky roasted chicken that I learned to love in Peru.

                                I am also trying to remember from your past posts, but have you ever tried Yun Nan on Schiff? Another out of the way place in which the kitchen puts pride on the plate. And pure Hunan fire, for those that enjoy it that way.

                                1. re: QAW

                                  I've never heard of either. I love Peruvian food was never that fond of "Inka." Also never been to Yun Nan. Thanks for the tips. I have been to Dong Ting Spring in Chinatown and thought it was good, especially if you stick to the Hunan specialties.

                                2. re: Dave Feldman

                                  Please help me with your Paradise Grill rec. I Googled the place and found a location on Jones Blvd., but nothing listed as being on Decatur. Do you have an address I can Map Quest or a website name?
                                  Thanks

                                  1. re: Jambalaya

                                    I must have been on hallucinogens when I said "Decatur." Paradise Grill is at 4180 South Jones, just south of Flamingo in a strip mall. I'm going to post a separate note about it.

                                  2. re: Dave Feldman

                                    then I most assuredly will hit LoS. With it's prox to LA, I could see why Thai might be strong in Vegas.

                                    1. re: Fritz

                                      we went to LoS last night. I was indeed very good.
                                      Dunno if I'd call it the best Thai I've ever had, but it was real.

                                      Border Cafe in ManBay was very good and reasonable. Excellent civiche.

                                      1. re: Fritz

                                        went to Border Grill again yesterday. Excellent red roasted chicken and a couple other different civiches. The flan was very weak.

                                3. re: QAW

                                  we went to Mon Ami Gabi last night.
                                  Very weak. 3 had steak poivre that had no poivre, though they were cooked as asked. I had a very salty trout Grenobloise. It probably would have been decent less the saltiness. Another had the pan seared sea scallops, that were probably the best of the lot. Mussels app was excellent, as were the raw oysters and soup.

                                  The big problem here is red wine. The wine is stored in floor to ceiling racks that go from least $ to most $$$. The most $$$ on top of the rack ... I'd say are ruined bottles of wine, judging from the least and middles that we had. The first was downright sour. The 2nd had possibilities, but was too warm. The last, a Margaux, we had iced for 10 mins, they looked at us like we had trees growing out of our heads. The chill helped it a bit, but it still wasn't as good a wine as we when had previously had it.
                                  The place is warm. Heat rises ...... you get the picture.

                                  Service was excellent. Desserts were good. Capp tasted liked brewed coffee with steamed milk.

                                  It's a stinker. If this is quality French food, stay away from NYC, let alone Paris. You'd never recover.

                              2. re: elrushbo

                                Before moving to Las Vegas in 2005, I visited 3-4 times a year. Loved coming here! Loved it!!!
                                Now, I can't wait to move. The strip is a zoo and only affordable if you don't actually care how much you have to spend to eat or gamble or see a show. $10 minimum BJ tables are the norm. On weekends, expect $15-25 minimums. Two hour waits for a table in a hotel coffee shop on a weekend morning are not uncommon. Want to to at any restaurant on the Strip on a weekend night? Make reservations weeks in advance.

                                The monorail is a joke. It only services half the hotels on the Strip and the closest it gets to the Strip is about half a mile. Used to be free, then after the expansion, they started charging $3 a trip. Now it costs $15, but hey... you can ride it all day long for that one low price.

                                There's not nearly enough infrastructure around the Strip to support the level of tourism. Not enough roads, not enough parking, not enough restaurants. On the weekends, valet parking is shut down at most hotels save for registered guests. Food courts at NYNY close at 9:30PM. What do you do when the first show of Zumanity ends at 9:30 and you're looking forward to a late, inexpensive, convenient meal?

                                And my to bring the discussion back to food, my personal pet peeve, the coffee shops at the hotels used to be wonderful places to eat. Anything available at any time. Full menu 24 hours. No longer. The late night menu at virtually any hotel coffee shop resembles that found in most bars. I love Eggs Benedict. Why can't I get it a 2:00AM? Why is it made with canned hollandaise?

                                Unless you're on an unlimited expense account or don't care how much money you spend on dinner, it's hard to eat well in this town. Star restaurants or chain restaurants. Take your choice.

                                1. re: shamu613

                                  Either you LOVE or HATE living in Las Vegas, there's no 2 ways around it. If you make The Strip a priority (be it for work, or whatever reason) one can easily get jaded and angry at how things are. Vegas isn't how it used to be 30 years ago, and many people take umbrage at this. Be it tighter gaming, tighter comps, longer lines, and most of all, higher prices...This town isn't what it was. You have to spend $5,000 in 24 hours to get a comp to get anything. It is what it is. It's a business, and the suits in their offices run the show very differently that it used to be.

                                  Las Vegas; for a local who doeen't see The Strip as the be-all, end-all..Can live a great life, and eat very well. Not just "un-chowish" chains, this city has lots of great eats, with reasonable prices. This town works well for those who know about balancing things, IE time, money and not letting the gambling aspect rule their life.

                                  1. re: shamu613

                                    You are one of the few locals I've met who spends a significant amount of time on the Strip. As a tourist, I rarely eat there, so my experience is totally different from yours. I rarely eat at "star" restaurants and with very few exceptions, ever eat at a chain. And I think Las Vegas is an exciting food city. A great food city.

                                    I think you're looking at the old hotel coffee shops with rose-colored glasses. Yes, some of the places do curtail their menu late-night, but the quality of food at most was far from great. Now there are late-night Chinese, Japanese, and Vietnam places just a few minutes away from the Strip, the Grand Luxe and the Peppermill (which I think beat most of the old-school coffee shops).

                                    1. re: shamu613

                                      I disagree.

                                      I lived in Vegas for over 10 years and I've now relocated to Phoenix. I'm constantly telling my friends back in Vegas that I'm disappointed with what's available late night and/or for cheap eats around here. Actually, I'm just jaded about the food scene here in general - but that's another story for another forum ...

                                      I could walk into any number of bar grills/video poker bars at just about any time of night and get decent food for cheap. I took it for granted while I was there but now I'm missing my local hangouts.

                                      As far as the Strip is concerned - I guess I was spoiled. I never had a problem getting into whatever restaurant it was where I wanted to dine. Then again, 1.) I usually ate at the bar 2.) It was easy when you know people about the biz and 3.) If I ever needed to ensure that I was going to have a table - I made a reservation in advance. I don't see what's so hard about that. I constantly see people here ask if a reservation is necessary. Who cares if it is or isn't - make one and you'll never be disappointed.

                                      I had a great time living in Vegas - for the most part. But I too started hating it ( for a lot of different reasons ) which is why I moved away. Now that I've been away for nearly 6 months I'm starting to miss it just a bit seeing how things are in my new "home".

                                      I've never lived in NYC, but barring that locale - I can't think of any other place in the U.S. that you can get the number of quality eats at any time of day that you can in Vegas.

                                      1. re: azbirdiemaker

                                        I know what you mean about getting spoiled by the Vegas eats! When I visit my family in California, i'm allways amazed when my choices for food after 10pm can be so slim, in comparision to LV.

                                        I'm local, I work on The Strip, but know a few people to get into a few great places where I do work. (thankfully, one is B&B!) It's not cheap, but I don't eat like a queen 24/7 here either. I try and mix it up, and eat both "high" and "low" in town.

                                        1. re: Honeychan

                                          i'm a semi-local....1/2 my time in vegas, 1/2 in so cal...since i'm retired, i have more free-time then most. i also love food from in-n-out to guy savoy ( oh wait...haven't been there yet...but i will ! ) - i love the food journey in vegas - there is a multitude of choices 24 hours a day - yes, the strip can be a pain in the a__ at times but it ain't that bad...... in the last 2 days, had vietnamese ( nhu lan ), dim sum ( orchids ) chinese ( hunan ) higher end, non - strip...vitner grill, late nite eats - blueberry pancakes....yummy ...el cortez coffee shop,..let's see...that's right , cooked at the condo - bonless chicken wings, that i brought to my fav "monday night football tavern " ...unfortunately, not a good game....everything was great - sadly, my camera wasn't working so no reviews this week - but let me tell ya - Vitner grill is a great place for those saddened by the lack of quality up the street at Red Rocks

                                          1. re: kjs

                                            interesting that sop many should talked about late night eats in Vegas. We were at Mandalay. Almost nothing available there.
                                            Glad I'm not back fro 6 months.

                                            1. re: Fritz

                                              isnt the burger bar open late? I should have stock in that place. love it.

                                              1. re: yankeefan

                                                Rosemary's stays open until "close" and the 204 bus runs 24-hours. I'm guessing you could show up around 10 and have a fine later evening of it.

                                2. re: IslayMan

                                  Another vote for Mayflower Cuisinier on Decatur and W. Sahara. Sort of high-end Chinese.

                                  1. re: IslayMan

                                    They actually have closed the Mayflower Cuisine on Sahara, sadly but it is now moving to the Venetian (I believe it was). It was replaced by a Thai restaurant. I was really sad because as a local we loved going there for lunch. The prices and menu will be a little more fancy now.

                                  2. Breakfast at Bouchon (in lobby of Venezia) - good, but not great. The waiter didn't seem to know how to smile. I found the coffee bland. (Is it the Vegas water?) Their signature french toast was a little round, bread-pudding-like stack with slices of apple on top. Tasted ok. Small portion. My girlfriend had the quiche, and we both agreed it was too salty. The "epi" bread they served came with butter and raspberry jam. Tasted about like bread, butter and jam usually do. You have to walk out of the restaurant and down the hall to use the bathroom. We spent around $45. Probably won't go back.

                                    Dinner at Enoteca San Marco (Grand Canal Shoppes in the Venetian) - We were impressed with the waitress. She couldn't seem to do enough for us, exercised great patience as we ordered, always smiled, made sure our food arrived quickly, and checked back several times. We had the pizza margarita, and the Verdura Grande (a chowhound rec). I really enjoyed the caponata and the mixed olives. It was as good a pizza as any I've had: crispy, thin crust, small dollop of almost buttery mozzarella on each slice, and just enough aromatic basil. (Some might complain that the sauce was too sweet, but it worked for me.) Here's their menu: http://www.venetian.com/venetianeng/A...
                                    I think we got out of there for around $60. (If anyone can recommend a similar Italian restaurant in LA, please do.

                                    )

                                    Peppermill (the strip) - went there for sunday morning breakfast and paid $8.50 for a flask of orange juice. Also got oatmeal and a garden omelette. Took about twenty minutes for our order to arrive. Their version of an omelette appears to be 4 or 5 scrambled eggs formed into a large semi circular mound. Bottom line: if you're about to drive from Vegas to LA on a Sunday morning, and you're thinking of having breakfast first, don't. Just get in the car and floor it. Beat the traffic at all costs.

                                    1. we hit the Strip House last night in PH. Others all had steaks that they enjoyed as well as their apps. I had a scallop app that was excellent and a salmon main that was disappointing. How does one make salmon boring? Desserts were good, service was excellent. But probably not the place for a no red meater like myself.

                                      1. Milos Cafe in Boulder City near the dam is a great place for lunch. Inexpensive and very good. Fast and friendly "pierced" service. Great beer and wine selection.

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                                        1. re: Fritz

                                          In talking about Vegas in general (just returned from my first and maybe only trip), I liked the idea that everything seemed to be open all night (as a life long insomniac I knew there would be some place to go at any hour). We stayed on the strip since old mother-in law did not want to venture too far and it was supposed to be a family time and I think you could get a very jaded view of what Las Vegas has to offer it you do not go too far from your strip hotel. Even in the middle of the week, the gambling stakes are higher than elsewhere (from what I saw at the Bellagio-husband wanted to go downtown but time with family did not permit us to sneak out) and so are food prices though some walking can bring down prices without going too far. For example, my pastry, berries, and plain coffee early breakfast at the Bellagio was $15 while pastry and coffee across the street at Paris was much less and even better. A glass of wine at Noodles in the Bellagio was $10 and at MAG at Paris $8 (but way better wine!). By walking a couple of blocks down and across, my sister-in-law and I got water 2 for $1 instead of at least $1 a bottle at the hotel. It is not only worth it to try local spots since prices and attitudes on the Strip are a little inflated (husband and I rented a car fairly cheaply by shopping on the internet, it was not a great car but made two trips out to the desert and other runs) but we saw many hotels within a short walk of the strip that looked okay and were probably cheaper. I enjoyed my time on the Strip but would not kill to go again. Our food experiences were okay but I think it should always be remembered that many of the name restaurants may not be just like the original (MAG was a very good last minute dinner sub but the steak-frites were the least good thing ordered, DB forgot mother-in-law's cake ordered at least two weeks before-check ahead on such things and cannot touch the New York DB restaurants, Canaletto had good pasta when two or our party went before but was not so great for pizza and other items lunch, family that ate there loved the Bellagio brunch buffet but though food I sampled there was good prices were high, we had a really terrible dinner at Carnegie Deli (nothing like NY!!!!) on the way to see Love. Husband and I picked up supermarket sandwiches on the way to the dam, sorry I did not try restaurants suggested). Any way, the strip is not terrible but local is probably better and just as interesting. I live in Texas and had little interest in trying Mexican, Thai, or Chinese since those are widely available here but agree they are probably good down to earth choices. One last thing: even though we had to go away from the airport to pick up the rental car and keeping in mind that we came Monday-Thursday and so avoided weekend crowds, we were at the hotel within 40 minutes while the other three parties from the family took over an hour (the later they came, the longer it took) to get a cab (very long taxi lines at all hours) to get to the hotel. Parking was free at strip hotels (unlike most other things) and we did not have trouble parking at the Wynn for an earlyish dinner there. It may be worth it to get a car if you get the rate you want to pay-then it is easy to sample real local places.

                                          1. re: tvmovielover

                                            You sampled less than one percent of what the strip has to offer. Seems like you are not giving a fair shake. From this Chowhound's perspective, there are not many other destinations with so many options (all price levels) in such a small area. Some don't like the vibe of the strip and that's fine. It's impossible to deny the possibilities it gives the serious Chowhound.
                                            And no, local Vegas is not better than what is available on the strip. It may be better and more convenient for locals but pales in comparison to what the strip offers. Hope the Rosemarys cult doesn't give me a cyberwhacking for this. Actually, bring it on. This site needs some spice.

                                            1. re: climberdoc

                                              speaking of Rosemarys. We were very happy there the other night. 8 of us had a wide variety of specials and menu items and desserts on Sunday is half price wine night. $135 pp with tip including 6 bottles of red. Great service, ambiance and completely unlike anything else on the strip. Very much worth the 25 min cab ride.

                                              1. re: climberdoc

                                                Hey doc, I suppose I'm in the Rosemary's cult but I love the Strip too. Why can't I have both? Tax season is thankfully almost over (my husband is a CPA) and we'll be in Vegas the nights of April 16-18. April 16th - Rosemary's. April 17th - dine around at the MGM - drinks and progressive courses of food at bars in various MGM restaurants. For our last MGM dine around we did Sea Blue (drinks, octopus tandoori appetizer), Craftsteak (drinks, Kobe tartare, hen of the woods mushrooms), Fiamma (drinks, fusilli with truffle butter, peas, La Quercia prosciutto, and then dessert on them because the bartender wanted to prove their desserts are good). We did take a break after Craftsteak to play some pai gow, before hitting Fiamma. April 18th - Bouchon, one of our favorites, anywhere. Plus we'll be having lunches, often at restaurants on the Strip, our agenda this time isn't totally set but might include DB, or Mesa Grill, or who knows. Husband's a bit busy so we just started talking about lunches today, whereas I've had our dinner reservations for Wednesday and Friday for quite awhile. Breakfast on the 19th will most likely be at Verandah, oh so civilized. We love the Strip and only stay at hotels on the Strip, but that doesn't mean we don't enjoy heading over to Summerlin to eat at Rosemary's where they now know us and treat us superbly. Of course we drive from L.A. so we have our car, I doubt I would spend to take a cab there. I guess this isn't a cyberwhacking because I basically agree with you, but I think there's room for both.

                                                1. re: Debbie W

                                                  Yeah Debbie. We do agree. It's nice to agree with someone. I think I'm gaining a reputation as a loose cannon on this site.

                                                  What really gets me is exemplified by the Review Journal Best of Vegas. There was a recent entire thread on this. The attitude of many locals seems to be to deny that the strip exists. This is understandable with the traffic, congestion, casinos, tobacco smoke, etc. The strip undoubtedly one of the country's top culinary destinations and won't be going anywhere until the Colorado River is dried up (but I'm sure they'll find H20 from somewhere else to fuel the fire).

                                                  I love Rosemary's. The food, service, atmosphere, improbability, etc. I just feel the need to bash it occasionally in response to this disturbing (to me) ignorance of the Strip as a culinary destination.

                                          2. how about Indian?
                                            Gandhi, Gaylord, Tamba, Origin India?

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                                            1. re: Fritz

                                              answering my own question. Origin India was very good tonite. Quite a variety on the menu and a lot I'd not seen. Tasty and "heated" as requested. Excellent mango lassis. A limited wine menu, but not awful.
                                              Service was a little forgetful at times. $70 pp with 2 bottles.

                                            2. For the record the Carnegie Deli stinks in NY too. 2nd Avenue Deli was the best --- I just heard they relocated it and reopened it but thats a discussion for the NY boards.

                                              1. Lombardis, a food court place in the PH mall is very good and reasonably priced.
                                                The Cantina is weak and cheap. Pampas Brazilian is cheap and good fro lunch.

                                                1. I've been mining chowhound for the last day for similar recs in Vegas, and though I keep coming across the usual suspects, I'd like to ask for additional recs with a wrinkle: I'll be there for a bachelor party in a few weeks and am looking for a nice restaurant that we could do for ~$60pp. I have reservations at B & B, but depending on what the bachelor wants, may have to go in a new direction. So I'm looking for someplace nice, but on the moderately expensive (not Bouchon, Guy Savoy expensive) side in vegas... impossible? Thanks for the tips!

                                                  1. I'm simply not "into" the whole Strip atmosphere. I don't gamble, I barely drink, I don't like to get all fancy-dressed-up to eat in restaurants that are invariably absolutely FREEZING (okay, so I think that anything under 80 degrees F is time to get out the Polartec), and I'm only a little bit interested in the shows. The thing that interests me most on the strip is the Bellagio fountains, not because I wanna be amazed by dancing waters, but because my brother worked on them.

                                                    I've found that there are plenty of really interesting casual restaurants off the strip, many of them within reasonable walking distance of my apartment and/or the UNLV campus. Okay, so my idea of a reasonable walking distance is anything under about 3 miles, as long as temps are under 97 degrees F. It's not snobbery on my part--it's just preference. Well, that, and I moved to Vegas from Reno, so casinos aren't exactly a big thrill for me.

                                                    What have I found? Las Vegas' Chinatown, Ping Pang Pong in the Gold Coast Casino, Metro Pizza, N&N Oriental (Thai), Paymon's Mediterranean Cafe, Bagels 'n' More. None of those are fancy places, and I don't feel uncomfortable dragging in midday or after classes in rumpled scrubs or battered jeans and tees.