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  <id>446162</id>
  <title>Pancakes &amp; waffles</title>
  <published_at>Sat Sep 29 19:36:49 -0700 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>33</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>2</id>
    <name>Los Angeles Area</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2989403</id>
        <content>I was a foreign student to the US a few years ago, and will be attending our highschool 
reunion next week.....40 yrs reunion seems a few years ago ???
Well..while I was a student then, the only good pancake place I knew was the place called Pancakes House which is now IHOP. The last time I visited LA about ten years ago, also had waffles at Denny's.
I just bumped into this great site a month ago and have been reading so many recommendations.....this is wonderful !!!
Anyway...the many different pancake and waffle places you mentioned, in which way are
they better than IHOP or Denny's?
Thank you.....</content>
        <published_at>Sat Sep 29 19:36:49 -0700 2007</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>124575</id>
          <name>zabai</name>
        </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2989420</id>
      <content>There are lots of places with pancakes and waffles that most would agree are better than the 2 places that you mentioned. Do you know where you will be in L.A. which in terms of this board is a pretty big area? For starters though my favorite in W.L.A. for various pancakes is John O'Groats. I can't think of any place in L.A. that has great waffles, sorry!

John O'Groats
10516 W Pico Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90064-2320
310 204 0692 </content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 19:46:31 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10864</id>
        <name>sel</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2989456</id>
      <content>Just a bit south of LAX is Redondo Beach, where you'll find an outpost of Original Pancake House. They have several styles of pancakes, including an eggy-custardy oven baked pancake called a Dutch Baby. It's enormous size helps to keep the inside moist and somewhat loose. It's big enough to share, and it does take a bit longer for the kitchen to cook than a "normal" pancake.

I'm also partial to the Apple Pancake, baked with apple slices, brown sugar and cinnamon. If you search for "Original Pancake House" on the L.A. board, you'll find many of us here extolling our favorites at OPH. There are several franchises in the L.A. / Orange County area, and sadly, there is some inconsistency in the quality of food across those stores.

Original Pancake House
1756 South Pacific Coast Hwy.
Redondo Beach, California 90277
310-543-9875
http://www.originalpancakehouse.com/

An "only in L.A." place is Pann's Restaurant, a diner that's celebrating its 50th anniversary. Unlike faux-`50's themed American restaurants, this is the real thing in an original Googie-styled building that might remind you of the held-up diner in Pulp Fiction. (Pulp Fiction was filmed in the now-demolished Hawthorne Grill, which was owned by the same family that runs Pann's). 

Pann's makes a Belgian waffle w/ fried chicken wings. It's an odd Los Angeles soul food combo more famously served at Roscoe's House of Chicken &amp; Waffles, but I like both the waffles and chicken better at Pann's.

Pann's Restaurant
6710 La Tijera Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045
(323) 776-3770
http://www.panns.com/

Roscoe's is still way better than IHOP or Denny's, and Roscoe's has several locations from Long Beach to Hollywood to Pasadena. 
http://www.roscoeschickenandwaffles.com/</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 20:06:15 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10023</id>
        <name>Professor Salt</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2989526</id>
      <content>I tried the OPH in Redondo Bch. a few years ago and it was very tasty!

I have driven past Pann's my whole life and only been there twice in the past few month's for dinner. If the great dinners I've had are any indication of the quality of their waffles etc. I'd say go for it!

Roscoe's only once for the famous Chicken &amp; Waffles, I've had better Fried Chicken and I've had better Waffles but combined at Roscoe's it was pretty good!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 20:48:32 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989456</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10864</id>
        <name>sel</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2990255</id>
      <content>My boyfriend and I live near there so we stop by all the time. We love this place. Fluffiest, yummiest pancakes you've ever had!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 10:21:14 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989456</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21477</id>
        <name>mstinawu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3011148</id>
      <content>Over the course of a year, I go to all of the Southern California OPHs at least once, some of them a lot more than once, and, fortunately, haven't seen much food inconsistency. (I.e., in my usual orders: strawberry crepes, 49'er flapjacks, Swedish pancakes, Georgia pecan pancakes, and fluffy omelets -- one of the few places where an "omelet" isn't cooked to death on both sides before filling and folding.) But the coffee can vary widely, to the point that I order hot tea for breakfast at the branches in Anaheim and Yorba Linda. (I just hope that any children reading this board don't see that. ;-)</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 06 16:16:03 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989456</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>38373</id>
        <name>Mel Gee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2989481</id>
      <content>In addition to the aforementioned John O'Groats, home of the best buckwheat cakes I have ever had anywhere, my favorite waffle/pancake purveyor is the awesome Griddle Cafe on Sunset near Fairfax.

Pancakes and waffles in a stunning array of varieties, French press coffee, huge portions  ... and lines down the street esp. on weekends.

Also check this thread:

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/433116

Linking ,,,</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 20:22:13 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85884</id>
        <name>maxzook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2989561</id>
      <content>Don't know where you'll be, but def second THE GRIDDLE CAFE.

The FOUR SEASONS has great lemon ricotta pancakes.

BARNEY GREENGRASS' apple pancakes

NEWSROOM CAFE for a variety of great cakes esp bluecorn

QUALITY

WHO's ON THIRD - fluffy buttermilk

DOUGHBOYS

TOAST

SQAURE ONE

26 BEACH

3 SQUARE CAFE for apple pancakes

BLUJAM CAFE

DINAH's for the apple or german pancake

PANN's

THE COFFEE COMPANY for great waffles

A VOTRE SANTE or SANTE LA BREA for grainier, healthier cakes/waffles

KATE MANTILINI has great albeit pricey cakes

BAKE'n'BROIL for blackberry pancakes

LARKIN's 

PANTRY CAFE

If you're in the valley...

MORE THAN WAFFLES 

NAT's EARLY BITE for waffles w/ fresh fruit

JUMPIN JAVA

</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 21:10:35 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15572</id>
        <name>Emme</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2990147</id>
      <content>OMG Emme, you are my new go-to person for brekkie.  Thank you.  </content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 09:16:32 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989561</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>42707</id>
        <name>brekkie_fan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2996307</id>
      <content>emme always has the best detailed lists!

one addition...i'm surprised she left out our mutually beloved HUGO'S. they do a healthier/grainier version as well as a couple of more decadent flavors [pumpkin, strawberry chai spice]. or if you decide to try something a little different, their 'oatmeal frittata' rocks.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 02 09:50:27 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2990147</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>103920</id>
        <name>goodhealthgourmet</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2996525</id>
      <content>how could i leave off hugo's??  guess that's because i go there to order egg white omelettes... gosh i miss the ability to eat that stuff regularly.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 02 10:39:44 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2996307</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15572</id>
        <name>Emme</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>2997098</id>
      <content>Yeah, this is totally a fantasy list for me, too ...</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 02 12:50:00 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2996525</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85884</id>
        <name>maxzook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2989618</id>
      <content>I used to love the pancakes at Du-Par's, though reports here are that they're not the same under the new management.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 21:46:20 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>100515</id>
        <name>Woolsey</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2993642</id>
      <content>I have found that Du-Par's pancakes haven't changed...they are as good as always.  If you are near Downtown LA, either the Standard Hotel Coffee Shop or Tiara Cafe on 9th have excellent pancakes as well.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 01 13:45:21 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989618</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>75707</id>
        <name>RobertC</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2996103</id>
      <content>I thought of mentioning Tiara Caf&#233;, but I've only had the French toast there so I can't speak on the quality of the pancakes from experience.  The French toast was just okay, nothing to write home about, but the vanilla bean (which also comes with the pancakes and waffles) was a nice touch.  I wish there had been more of it, actually.  Tiara Caf&#233; also offers my grandmother's favorite: silver dollar pancakes.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 02 09:13:26 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2993642</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>100515</id>
        <name>Woolsey</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2990869</id>
      <content>Is it wrong that I just love the country griddle cakes (the ones with cream of wheat in the batter) at iHop?  I can't stomach much else there, but those pancakes really hit the spot.  Especially when nursing a hangover. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 15:35:41 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>75012</id>
        <name>jencounter</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2990976</id>
      <content>Anything that helps ease a hangover is worth its weight in gold.  I'll have to note that one... 

Le Pain Quotidien's Belgian waffle is quite good, albeit on the smallish side for most Americans.  Its somewhat irregular shape has pieces of rock sugar inside that make it more of a treat than a hearty breakfast.  The berries and powdered sugar are a nice finishing touch that makes it hard to convince most that LPQ is a franchise. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 16:33:47 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2990869</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64003</id>
        <name>bulavinaka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2991552</id>
      <content>Lots of great suggestions already, but I think one that has not been brought up is Julienne in San Marino.

www.juliennetogo.com</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 20:56:21 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11583</id>
        <name>ipsedixit</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2991655</id>
      <content>I don't know about their pancakes, now I'll have to try them this week, and the Bittersweet Chocolate Waffles with Honey Vanilla Cr&#232;me Fraiche, Shaved Chocolate and Berries was kind of SWEET OVERKILL but they do have 3 different kinds of French Toast that are all spectacular especially their Creme Brulee French Toast! So good!!!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 22:01:15 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2991552</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10864</id>
        <name>sel</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2993466</id>
      <content>Well I did my duty and made my way over to Julienne this morning and tried the Whole Grain, Roasted Pecan and Oat Pancakes with Crystallized Ginger Butter and Maple Syrup. Now if you want light and fluffy white flour pancakes, these arn't for you but if whole grain, somewhat heavy but VERY tasty hits the spot then I heartily recommend these.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 01 13:05:49 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2991655</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10864</id>
        <name>sel</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2993809</id>
      <content>Plus, because they are whole grain, they're good for you ...</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 01 14:25:02 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2993466</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11583</id>
        <name>ipsedixit</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2991748</id>
      <content>How can it be that everyone seems to have missed Zeke's Eatin' Place in Ontario, near the airport?</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 23:25:40 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12538</id>
        <name>oldusedcop</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2992454</id>
      <content>Missing links ...</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 01 08:41:20 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85884</id>
        <name>maxzook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2993685</id>
      <content>The Griddle Cafe is wonderful.  I urge you not to miss it.  
Be careful when you order, the portions are large.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 01 13:52:20 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2992454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>122588</id>
        <name>professor shorthair</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2994277</id>
      <content>No s**t! I went for the first time with my lads when they were 5 or 6 and when I ordered M&amp;M Pancakes for one and Chocolate Chip Pancakes for the other, the waiter didn't warn me how gigantic they were! 3 pancakes each order, about the diameter of a dinner plate. They couldn't finish 1 pancake, the rest got dumped! Tasty though!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 01 16:49:01 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2993685</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10864</id>
        <name>sel</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2998019</id>
      <content>At The Griddle Cafe you can order (off menu) a side order of (1) pancake rather than the full order of x3 pancakes.  The price break is not very big but at least you don't have to dump uneaten portion(s).  Or, just ask for a go box before your food comes so you can put aside the pancakes you know cannot be eaten that day for good eats at home later (we always make extra pancakes at home and just, ahem, microwave the next day, or so later...)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 02 16:52:19 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2994277</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43482</id>
        <name>yinyangdi</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2994295</id>
      <content>I see my favorite hasn't been mentioned yet - LeRoy's in Monrovia.  They have the best pancakes and waffles there!  They were even on TV awhile back (last year maybe?) as part of some local story on places with the best pancakes.  </content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 01 16:58:00 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11822</id>
        <name>Michelle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2996665</id>
      <content>Also, The Grill Cafe (?) in San Pedro has some mean looking waffles (topped with gobs of berries and cream). My friend had their pancakes and really liked them as well. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 02 11:12:31 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12400</id>
        <name>WildSwede</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3010727</id>
      <content>For great big Belgian style waffle, try the French Crepe Company in the original Farmers Market.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 06 12:06:21 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>127538</id>
        <name>wutzizname</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3010737</id>
      <content>Can't believe I forgot this place ... they have a branch at Hollywood and Highland as well.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 06 12:13:10 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3010727</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85884</id>
        <name>maxzook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3011006</id>
      <content>Awesome.  My man loves the blueberry waffles there.  I like the fact it's a Filipino family serving up crepes.  Sweet and ironic.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 06 14:43:27 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3010727</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>42707</id>
        <name>brekkie_fan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3011329</id>
      <content>Brent's Deli in Northridge for the oatbran pancakes or Campanile on La Brea for the sourdough pancakes.

Both - to die for - delicious.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 06 18:52:24 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3011006</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17678</id>
        <name>Francesca</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3011348</id>
      <content>We had some international visitors who were absolutely crazy about this diner, I imagine, that served flannel cakes but I can't remember the name of the place. A lot of very old-fashioned "atmosphere" if you know what I mean. It is NOT Musso &amp; Frank's. More fun than Denny's / IHOP, and better batter --&gt; better pancake. Fresh fruit is a plus too. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 06 19:11:03 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2989403</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>122457</id>
        <name>willownt</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3011414</id>
      <content>How about the approximate location.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 06 19:51:40 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3011348</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>108169</id>
        <name>Servorg</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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